Astrology : Real or Fake?

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where does astrology fit in

this is interesting isn't it i'll tell

you something

which i don't

don't say usually

and you will never hear it from anywhere

except

one or two you know people like satguru

and that is you know

astrology is true

astrologers are false

and i'll repeat this it's very important

you see if you are if if you have

interest

this is like a mantra

astrology is true

astrologers

are fakes all figs

i am not saying that there are no people

who cannot know the future i am not

saying that

what i'm saying is these people they do

not make a business out of that ability

they do not call themselves astrologers

astrologer is a profession you see in

india it's everywhere in the world

actually now

so

that is a means to earn money that's all

it is

now

if people are getting satisfied with

whatever that lodger is saying then you

know no complaints

let it happen who cares

there is this placebo effect and all

those things are there

so it is not astrology as per my

little knowledge that i have

the astrology that was there is now lost

and astrology is not a numerical science

it is not something which you get by

reading the book on astrology

by drawing the chart

by knowing the date of birth

by doing this and by doing that by

knowing all the positions of the planets

you will become a good mathematician

that way

you will not become an astrologer

what people do there are books on the

astrology and there are traditions that

are in india they are kept a little bit

secret because you know

related to money

and so

uh it has all become like

a very crude thing

it is a science of the mind it is a

technology of the mind

so

yes i am is saying

and that astrology science and if my

submission is if if one understand

astrology and its true sense of science

then it will prove the absence of free

will yes

exactly yes

because if you can predict everything

accurately

that means it is all determined it's all

already there there is no time really

you see if it is already there is there

something which is future

no

it is one solid block of past present

and future

it's a space time

not really time

so and you arrive at something which is

nearer to the reality

is all already there

it is merely appearing

because of the activity of the mind and

the mind creates time out of this

its activity

it is going through the slices of this

all that is already there

so this is a kind of a deeper thing

which of which the evidence you will

never get

it is not self-evident

so

and as long as we are in maya

well this is kind of very difficult very

difficult to see

that

you know everything is already there

you go beyond maya and you will see this

that can take some time

astrology is not simply computing in the

positions and then looking in the book

or this will happen because the book

says it will happen and then this is you

know degraded corrupted astrology

a true astrologer who knows

who knows how to how to see

what is what has already happened you

see you cannot say it is future it has

already happened

so he has the mental ability

his mind is already on the higher layers

in relim of the universal mind

and so the mind will fetch something

some information

out of that

and will speak like this

and it will be true

what do you mean by true and exactly

that will happen

now you can say that oh let us say that

he told me that

you are going to meet with a very bad

accident next week

so what i'll do i'll just stay at home

and this will never happen

now this will falsify what he has told

isn't it what the true astrologer has

told

and my

guess is that this will never happen

this will never happen

and otherwise he has said something

which is not there

so i have talked about this like it is

very convoluted isn't a difficult thing

to comprehend

so those who know the future cannot

change the future those who think they

can change the future you know you want

to know something because you want to

change it you want to adapt yourself to

that happening

and that is not the future then

because you changed it

so it is a paradox here

you will need to approach

and the past future

and present from

an ultimate point of view

where there is no past there is no

future and there is no present

or you can say it's all present it's all

present isn't it

if there is no past and future then

whatever remains is the present the

presence is of the whole

not of slice of time

the presence is always of the whole

and everything that has happened has

already happened

in this presence it is eternal presence

this is true astrology

now you can come down a bit you see

come down

into maya take a step into the maya and

you will encounter

the akashic records you will encounter

the akashic memory

which i also call as the universal mind

it is not a static memory it is very

dynamic evolving memory because you are

not left the ultimate

you are now in the realm of change

now you can read whatever has already

happened

if you can read that

there is

no way to change it

you cannot do the whatever the

astrologers tell you you know give me

one thousand one rupees and i'll clear

this mess out of your life now is it is

it possible is it the future then

is it in the future now clearing of the

mess why did you predict that which was

anyway not going to happen

so you see the falsehood there

you see

you see the illogical

thing that the astrologers do

now i'm not saying they will not predict

they will sometimes

especially the past

it is my own experience that i met a few

astrologers there they correctly told my

past

as soon as it comes to the grashanti or

whatever you know they want to extract

money out of you

or the future

especially the details of the future not

possible

don't do anything

they don't do anything about it

it is all fake

now since the jiva is determined by the

memory you can

you can correctly predict that this and

this will happen in your life

it is fully determined

but again

they won't tell you

even if they know

because they are spiritual people they

are not in the business of telling this

you go to a guru and they they know your

all your lives you know present life

future life past life everything

what will they say continue doing what

you're doing

continue doing what you're doing

whatever you are doing it is the best

thing that is happening right now right

here

because as soon as i say change this it

is it is leading to something horrible

change this

and now there is a fakeness there there

is a falsity there

because

you know if it is you can avoid that

then it is not the future then it has

not not

not happened in the future

so how can you say that how can you

change that which has not happened so as

soon as

you go into this kind of discussion

of astrology being true then you will

find no it's not

and

you go into the discussion which from

the spiritual angle

then you see

the truth

then you see how this maya works

it is presenting you that which

in which it is already there

now it is up to the mind you see how

evolved the mind is if it is not evolved

it will see it as

um

situations that are not in its control

and it wants to know what will happen

what will happen

because it sees that the day follows the

night and night follows the day it wants

to know what will follow in my life

this is what you call the cause and

effect

it has made a model of the reality and

then it wants to know how where this

thing is going

it is not like this

just like i said if you want to get into

the depths of the eye it will give you a

headache

that's why i don't talk

so i don't talk about such things

so the practical thing to know is that

yes

this is maya so everything is possible

it is possible to know the past possible

to know everything

know the future also

but don't get into this astrologer stuff

if you want to know really you know

develop your mind to that extent

then you will know

these people are called trikaldarshi by

the way so

and for them there is no past no future

it is all here now sometimes they will

say things

but

you if you want if you are really

interested in astrology

you should become a true astrologer

don't pay money to know that which is

fake don't try to change it if you know

what it is

it is not possible you see

there is no doer it cannot change

anything

whatever is happening is perfect

there is no free will

from the ultimate sense it will appear

as a series of events caused by the free

will of the agent

this is how it appears

it is not like this it will appear like

a

movement to movement flow of time coming

from the past going to the future this

is how it will appear

and it is our ignorance that we think it

is true

no there is no future there is no past

that's why it is completely here and now

and that is the

deep meaning of determinism

determinism is not that you write a

formula and it will happen like the

formula is predicting

this may happen in case of the physical

world for example

as soon as you go into the higher layers

of the mind no formula there

i encourage you to explore the mind

don't go to astrologer and do this kind

of you know pay money and all you can

but you know as an experiment only i did

that i did that i went to few

astrologers

i saw that there are very very talented

people in india

i saw that there is some spiritual

attainment

and there are some abilities in the

people

now because i cannot prove it to you

yeah you don't open my mouth

on the path of knowledge evidence is

everything isn't it

we work from the evidence direct

experience

but it is my own you see interest

i'm interested in the weird crazy things

so i keep doing and i found

there is a truth mixed with

falsehood

because it is a possibility to know

and the universal memory the akashic

records it is possible you can attain

that level get there

and

you will find few examples here and

there

if you research

as soon as money angle comes in as soon

as it is made into a profession of

astrologer

you must have read the thing on the in

the paper you know kumbharashi you will

get you will get money today you and

that's totally garbage you see

how many people are there in comparative

millions of people

yes their future is there

but not as written by the astrologer is

all garbage

that's why i say

um there is no such thing

as astrologer nowadays it's not there

those who know they do not practice it

they will not tell you

and you want to know

you know it yourself

do the practice

attempt to know the universal memory

and then you will know everything once

you know every everything that is in the

universal memory you will lose interest

in it

it will be an extreme detachment of some

kind

it is like you know you watch a movie

and then you don't want to watch it

again

why it's already there it's already

known

you will lose interest in it

the events that are going to happen are

going to look like possibilities

and

the

more gross the layer of the mind is the

more predictable it is for example you

throw a stone in the air it will come

down you can exactly predict where it is

going to land

this is the physical science isn't it

this is the physics

so but as soon as you go a little bit

deeper you will say that the

possibilities they become really cloudy

that is quantum physics

is it really deterministic

no it is not

it is statistical you can say not

deterministic

and

this is the characteristic of the mind

you have

you know realized one more

characteristic of the maya that it is

statistical in nature it is not

deterministic

not

undetermined

this way it appears as possibilities

exactly like you said

and your upay can help

to pick one of those possibilities now

you are entering a total new

subject here

you see knowing things is one science

changing things another science

what is that called that in the tundra

we call it the science of manifestation

and now you will now you'll know what

i'm talking about many people are trying

to do these things

they are trying to bring things into

their lives

manifest

i am not saying it's not possible

everything is possible this is maya this

is for our entertainment you know this

is a game it is possible

now

the only thing is people don't know how

to do that

in the 10th there is a keyword which i

am going to give it to you because you

are interested

those who are interested will receive

you say

there is a key word which i have learned

and that is sankalp

that is sankalp

shakti it is also called intention in

english

it's not the exact

translation

intention they appear out of nowhere

isn't it but sankalp

is something which the tantric will do

and will do it in a way

that it becomes kind of crystallized and

becomes solid in the mind

this is done through ritual

what you are calling as upai is a ritual

to crystallize your sankalp you can say

in simple words that you form a very

solid intention

and enforce it by external means

through a mantra repetition or through

objects or there are very advanced ways

to do that

this is all the tantric science

is all lost you know to be frank

to be honest if you ask me show me i

won't be able to show you i don't have

that art

but this is the key

i know this only so i'm giving it to you

and the oppai which the astrologer does

amounts to you know zero nothing he has

no sankalp sometimes he will tell you to

hold the sankalp and that is you know

that is a little bit honest astrologer

there

if you pay him

money and he does the ritual

well well it is all you know games of

possibilities toss of coin may happen

may not happen

if you do it yourself hold this uncle

do the recommended ritual yourself

then you can hope for a little bit of

outcome there

and if you do that you are in the domain

of tantra now

you are trying to control maya

which i am not saying it cannot be

controlled you see you are the supreme

we are all

supreme so we can

manipulate the game and those who evolve

further they will be they will have this

kind of ability that's what we call as

siddhi

the powers

so

predicting predicting the future

and manipulating it there are two

siddhis two minor powers

if you are on the path if you are a

spiritual person

you will get this sooner or later there

is no escape let me make it clear

you will get this

so my logical mind says that

you do it anyway because you are

reaching there only where the astrologer

claims to be

if you have a guru that your guru is

already there most probably

your guru probably has this siddhi power

already

and

if not then probably he has the

knowledge

that's all

so i have this kind of theoretical

knowledge

so i'm not practicing it because i know

my spiritual practice will take me there

anyway

what is power shedding of

your bondage

shedding of your limitations now you

know you are this in the monkey suit

in the human form

your your hands are tied you cannot do

much you say simply looking at things

that are passing through this life

very little ability to do anything

as soon as you rise above the human

you will

your hands will be untied

and then which you are able to do anyway

will you will be able to do it

but the funny thing is you will lose all

interest in manipulating

what is happening

because you see it is being done

at the most perfect

way

it is all happening in the most perfect

way

now you will identify with it and you

you can say i am doing everything in the

most perfect way already

so yes in the maya it's possible to

manipulate my arm

and don't pay money you can do it

yourself

the only thing is if you use this power

you will get entangled in this world

because it's giving you the maya is

giving you fruits

and she will keep you tied here that is

totally against our

spiritual goal which is liberation from

the maya

oh yes those materialistic people they

will do everything to stay here and they

will use tantra to

get whatever they are after as spiritual

seeker is satisfied content

whatever is happening is perfect

we do that which is necessary you know

necessary to

find and necessary to live this life

and we do it through ordinary means and

that's why you will see this big rishis

they lived very ordinary life

they ate whatever was around them begged

for food

isn't it you may expect that or there

will they have so much power they can

build castles gold and all

well they see it as a waste

for a for a realized person the gold and

stone one thing

it is all appearance

so we do not waste time like this we

like an arrow we had for liberation

but people have so many paths you see

they can take the more interesting parts

and this boring head for liberation is

very boring for the mind so you can take

little bit curves here and there

make it entertaining