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where does astrology fit in
this is interesting isn't it i'll tell
you something
which i don't
don't say usually
and you will never hear it from anywhere
except
one or two you know people like satguru
and that is you know
astrology is true
astrologers are false
and i'll repeat this it's very important
you see if you are if if you have
interest
this is like a mantra
astrology is true
astrologers
are fakes all figs
i am not saying that there are no people
who cannot know the future i am not
saying that
what i'm saying is these people they do
not make a business out of that ability
they do not call themselves astrologers
astrologer is a profession you see in
india it's everywhere in the world
actually now
so
that is a means to earn money that's all
it is
now
if people are getting satisfied with
whatever that lodger is saying then you
know no complaints
let it happen who cares
there is this placebo effect and all
those things are there
so it is not astrology as per my
little knowledge that i have
the astrology that was there is now lost
and astrology is not a numerical science
it is not something which you get by
reading the book on astrology
by drawing the chart
by knowing the date of birth
by doing this and by doing that by
knowing all the positions of the planets
you will become a good mathematician
that way
you will not become an astrologer
what people do there are books on the
astrology and there are traditions that
are in india they are kept a little bit
secret because you know
related to money
and so
uh it has all become like
a very crude thing
it is a science of the mind it is a
technology of the mind
so
yes i am is saying
and that astrology science and if my
submission is if if one understand
astrology and its true sense of science
then it will prove the absence of free
will yes
exactly yes
because if you can predict everything
accurately
that means it is all determined it's all
already there there is no time really
you see if it is already there is there
something which is future
no
it is one solid block of past present
and future
it's a space time
not really time
so and you arrive at something which is
nearer to the reality
is all already there
it is merely appearing
because of the activity of the mind and
the mind creates time out of this
its activity
it is going through the slices of this
all that is already there
so this is a kind of a deeper thing
which of which the evidence you will
never get
it is not self-evident
so
and as long as we are in maya
well this is kind of very difficult very
difficult to see
that
you know everything is already there
you go beyond maya and you will see this
that can take some time
astrology is not simply computing in the
positions and then looking in the book
or this will happen because the book
says it will happen and then this is you
know degraded corrupted astrology
a true astrologer who knows
who knows how to how to see
what is what has already happened you
see you cannot say it is future it has
already happened
so he has the mental ability
his mind is already on the higher layers
in relim of the universal mind
and so the mind will fetch something
some information
out of that
and will speak like this
and it will be true
what do you mean by true and exactly
that will happen
now you can say that oh let us say that
he told me that
you are going to meet with a very bad
accident next week
so what i'll do i'll just stay at home
and this will never happen
now this will falsify what he has told
isn't it what the true astrologer has
told
and my
guess is that this will never happen
this will never happen
and otherwise he has said something
which is not there
so i have talked about this like it is
very convoluted isn't a difficult thing
to comprehend
so those who know the future cannot
change the future those who think they
can change the future you know you want
to know something because you want to
change it you want to adapt yourself to
that happening
and that is not the future then
because you changed it
so it is a paradox here
you will need to approach
and the past future
and present from
an ultimate point of view
where there is no past there is no
future and there is no present
or you can say it's all present it's all
present isn't it
if there is no past and future then
whatever remains is the present the
presence is of the whole
not of slice of time
the presence is always of the whole
and everything that has happened has
already happened
in this presence it is eternal presence
this is true astrology
now you can come down a bit you see
come down
into maya take a step into the maya and
you will encounter
the akashic records you will encounter
the akashic memory
which i also call as the universal mind
it is not a static memory it is very
dynamic evolving memory because you are
not left the ultimate
you are now in the realm of change
now you can read whatever has already
happened
if you can read that
there is
no way to change it
you cannot do the whatever the
astrologers tell you you know give me
one thousand one rupees and i'll clear
this mess out of your life now is it is
it possible is it the future then
is it in the future now clearing of the
mess why did you predict that which was
anyway not going to happen
so you see the falsehood there
you see
you see the illogical
thing that the astrologers do
now i'm not saying they will not predict
they will sometimes
especially the past
it is my own experience that i met a few
astrologers there they correctly told my
past
as soon as it comes to the grashanti or
whatever you know they want to extract
money out of you
or the future
especially the details of the future not
possible
don't do anything
they don't do anything about it
it is all fake
now since the jiva is determined by the
memory you can
you can correctly predict that this and
this will happen in your life
it is fully determined
but again
they won't tell you
even if they know
because they are spiritual people they
are not in the business of telling this
you go to a guru and they they know your
all your lives you know present life
future life past life everything
what will they say continue doing what
you're doing
continue doing what you're doing
whatever you are doing it is the best
thing that is happening right now right
here
because as soon as i say change this it
is it is leading to something horrible
change this
and now there is a fakeness there there
is a falsity there
because
you know if it is you can avoid that
then it is not the future then it has
not not
not happened in the future
so how can you say that how can you
change that which has not happened so as
soon as
you go into this kind of discussion
of astrology being true then you will
find no it's not
and
you go into the discussion which from
the spiritual angle
then you see
the truth
then you see how this maya works
it is presenting you that which
in which it is already there
now it is up to the mind you see how
evolved the mind is if it is not evolved
it will see it as
um
situations that are not in its control
and it wants to know what will happen
what will happen
because it sees that the day follows the
night and night follows the day it wants
to know what will follow in my life
this is what you call the cause and
effect
it has made a model of the reality and
then it wants to know how where this
thing is going
it is not like this
just like i said if you want to get into
the depths of the eye it will give you a
headache
that's why i don't talk
so i don't talk about such things
so the practical thing to know is that
yes
this is maya so everything is possible
it is possible to know the past possible
to know everything
know the future also
but don't get into this astrologer stuff
if you want to know really you know
develop your mind to that extent
then you will know
these people are called trikaldarshi by
the way so
and for them there is no past no future
it is all here now sometimes they will
say things
but
you if you want if you are really
interested in astrology
you should become a true astrologer
don't pay money to know that which is
fake don't try to change it if you know
what it is
it is not possible you see
there is no doer it cannot change
anything
whatever is happening is perfect
there is no free will
from the ultimate sense it will appear
as a series of events caused by the free
will of the agent
this is how it appears
it is not like this it will appear like
a
movement to movement flow of time coming
from the past going to the future this
is how it will appear
and it is our ignorance that we think it
is true
no there is no future there is no past
that's why it is completely here and now
and that is the
deep meaning of determinism
determinism is not that you write a
formula and it will happen like the
formula is predicting
this may happen in case of the physical
world for example
as soon as you go into the higher layers
of the mind no formula there
i encourage you to explore the mind
don't go to astrologer and do this kind
of you know pay money and all you can
but you know as an experiment only i did
that i did that i went to few
astrologers
i saw that there are very very talented
people in india
i saw that there is some spiritual
attainment
and there are some abilities in the
people
now because i cannot prove it to you
yeah you don't open my mouth
on the path of knowledge evidence is
everything isn't it
we work from the evidence direct
experience
but it is my own you see interest
i'm interested in the weird crazy things
so i keep doing and i found
there is a truth mixed with
falsehood
because it is a possibility to know
and the universal memory the akashic
records it is possible you can attain
that level get there
and
you will find few examples here and
there
if you research
as soon as money angle comes in as soon
as it is made into a profession of
astrologer
you must have read the thing on the in
the paper you know kumbharashi you will
get you will get money today you and
that's totally garbage you see
how many people are there in comparative
millions of people
yes their future is there
but not as written by the astrologer is
all garbage
that's why i say
um there is no such thing
as astrologer nowadays it's not there
those who know they do not practice it
they will not tell you
and you want to know
you know it yourself
do the practice
attempt to know the universal memory
and then you will know everything once
you know every everything that is in the
universal memory you will lose interest
in it
it will be an extreme detachment of some
kind
it is like you know you watch a movie
and then you don't want to watch it
again
why it's already there it's already
known
you will lose interest in it
the events that are going to happen are
going to look like possibilities
and
the
more gross the layer of the mind is the
more predictable it is for example you
throw a stone in the air it will come
down you can exactly predict where it is
going to land
this is the physical science isn't it
this is the physics
so but as soon as you go a little bit
deeper you will say that the
possibilities they become really cloudy
that is quantum physics
is it really deterministic
no it is not
it is statistical you can say not
deterministic
and
this is the characteristic of the mind
you have
you know realized one more
characteristic of the maya that it is
statistical in nature it is not
deterministic
not
undetermined
this way it appears as possibilities
exactly like you said
and your upay can help
to pick one of those possibilities now
you are entering a total new
subject here
you see knowing things is one science
changing things another science
what is that called that in the tundra
we call it the science of manifestation
and now you will now you'll know what
i'm talking about many people are trying
to do these things
they are trying to bring things into
their lives
manifest
i am not saying it's not possible
everything is possible this is maya this
is for our entertainment you know this
is a game it is possible
now
the only thing is people don't know how
to do that
in the 10th there is a keyword which i
am going to give it to you because you
are interested
those who are interested will receive
you say
there is a key word which i have learned
and that is sankalp
that is sankalp
shakti it is also called intention in
english
it's not the exact
translation
intention they appear out of nowhere
isn't it but sankalp
is something which the tantric will do
and will do it in a way
that it becomes kind of crystallized and
becomes solid in the mind
this is done through ritual
what you are calling as upai is a ritual
to crystallize your sankalp you can say
in simple words that you form a very
solid intention
and enforce it by external means
through a mantra repetition or through
objects or there are very advanced ways
to do that
this is all the tantric science
is all lost you know to be frank
to be honest if you ask me show me i
won't be able to show you i don't have
that art
but this is the key
i know this only so i'm giving it to you
and the oppai which the astrologer does
amounts to you know zero nothing he has
no sankalp sometimes he will tell you to
hold the sankalp and that is you know
that is a little bit honest astrologer
there
if you pay him
money and he does the ritual
well well it is all you know games of
possibilities toss of coin may happen
may not happen
if you do it yourself hold this uncle
do the recommended ritual yourself
then you can hope for a little bit of
outcome there
and if you do that you are in the domain
of tantra now
you are trying to control maya
which i am not saying it cannot be
controlled you see you are the supreme
we are all
supreme so we can
manipulate the game and those who evolve
further they will be they will have this
kind of ability that's what we call as
siddhi
the powers
so
predicting predicting the future
and manipulating it there are two
siddhis two minor powers
if you are on the path if you are a
spiritual person
you will get this sooner or later there
is no escape let me make it clear
you will get this
so my logical mind says that
you do it anyway because you are
reaching there only where the astrologer
claims to be
if you have a guru that your guru is
already there most probably
your guru probably has this siddhi power
already
and
if not then probably he has the
knowledge
that's all
so i have this kind of theoretical
knowledge
so i'm not practicing it because i know
my spiritual practice will take me there
anyway
what is power shedding of
your bondage
shedding of your limitations now you
know you are this in the monkey suit
in the human form
your your hands are tied you cannot do
much you say simply looking at things
that are passing through this life
very little ability to do anything
as soon as you rise above the human
you will
your hands will be untied
and then which you are able to do anyway
will you will be able to do it
but the funny thing is you will lose all
interest in manipulating
what is happening
because you see it is being done
at the most perfect
way
it is all happening in the most perfect
way
now you will identify with it and you
you can say i am doing everything in the
most perfect way already
so yes in the maya it's possible to
manipulate my arm
and don't pay money you can do it
yourself
the only thing is if you use this power
you will get entangled in this world
because it's giving you the maya is
giving you fruits
and she will keep you tied here that is
totally against our
spiritual goal which is liberation from
the maya
oh yes those materialistic people they
will do everything to stay here and they
will use tantra to
get whatever they are after as spiritual
seeker is satisfied content
whatever is happening is perfect
we do that which is necessary you know
necessary to
find and necessary to live this life
and we do it through ordinary means and
that's why you will see this big rishis
they lived very ordinary life
they ate whatever was around them begged
for food
isn't it you may expect that or there
will they have so much power they can
build castles gold and all
well they see it as a waste
for a for a realized person the gold and
stone one thing
it is all appearance
so we do not waste time like this we
like an arrow we had for liberation
but people have so many paths you see
they can take the more interesting parts
and this boring head for liberation is
very boring for the mind so you can take
little bit curves here and there
make it entertaining
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