The Mysterious Relation - The Guru & Disciple

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sonal is saying could you please explain

more about guru disciple on

path of knowledge the

knowledge is

simply a knowing which is your own

direct experience isn't it

it is your own direct experience

now why don't people know it simply by

seeing by experiencing because there is

a curtain of ignorance

curtain of ignorance on them

and

this darkness

in their mind the job of the guru

is to dispel this darkness to lift the

curtain

and he or she does it by pointing that's

all

that is the

whole story of the guru and the disciple

once the pointing is done the curtain is

lifted the darkness is removed it's all

bright light there of awareness

the disciple is the guru and the guru is

the disciple they are one end of the

story they were always one

so

i take the form of the guru to remind

myself who am i in this dream the guru

is like alarm clock that's all

mo if you assign more importance to the

guru that the guru is going to do

everything for me your delusion

if you

put more importance in guru that

means

you are doubting your own knowledge and

the guru can sense it and then clears

more ignorance it can happen

but

without guru nothing moves

that is the bottom line nothing will

move in your life especially on the

spiritual path

you need somebody to teach you how to

put on the shoes and how to eat with a

spoon and all you know you need these

people isn't it who have already done

that

then you need the teachers in the school

to teach you the language and

mathematics and the drawing and whatever

you need teachers to teach you the music

and all

the teacher is

necessary especially here where

spiritual knowledge is concerned because

the ignorance is too deep and

it is possible that

this relation remains forever it is

possible because it happens at the

highest level highest layer

you will even see that

this is a repeating pattern like i say

cyclic

thing

that

one or two of these

memories you see

they take on the form of the individual

and they fall in ignorance and

immediately there appears a counter

memory to bring it out of the ignorance

repeats how many times

in finite times

this is the play that is going on

so

we cannot do anything

it is all it is going to be like this

either you will be guru or you will be

disciple this is not that it will happen

only to the spiritual people the rest of

the people they are in the queue they

have not developed enough to play this

game it is a game like i'll go back to

the sunh tradition because they have

beautiful stories about it it is a kind

of joke actually disciple meeting the

guru

it is happening in the dream there is no

guru actually it is all me i am dreaming

that i am the guru guruji bring me out

of this suffering okay okay son

i'll bring you out of the suffrage what

has happened here nothing at all all

fake drama

preethi is asking is it normal for a new

seeker to get scared with the new

experience yes yes yes very normal it is

the it is the only thing that will

happen if you are new actually i was i

was not scared

but

i got tired of these things it's very

tiring it does not end when you want it

to end like aslam is saying i stopped it

can you stop it is there anybody to stop

it it is tiring either you accept it or

a spiritual work you see is not not for

everybody it's only for very strong

people fearless people oh path of

knowledge i need to read a lot of books

no no no it will hit you like a brick

so don't get scared if you get scared

you can always talk to the guru if you

don't have a guru now that is scary

isn't it i don't have a guru now you

should be really afraid

because you will be lost very easily

very easily

it is like a damn breaking now who can

control all these things you see who can

control the broken dam we let the

dam break and then we do that

you see little bit of restoration

of whatever is remaining there it will

it will not be perfect but we do it

new individual is there i mean it is you

cannot call

that thing as individual also nothing is

there now so that is why there are

protection mechanisms that is why i am

so kind of careful sometimes only for

some people

i know the others can handle it

those who cannot handle it

it's a lot of hand holding there that is

why it was necessary in the early you

know ancient days for the

seeker to stay in the ashram near the

guru

in the company of other seekers

nowadays you guys are so lazy you don't

want to do this work you know you want

all the material comforts and tv and

whatever husband and wife and children

and that is why

it is a little bit difficult but don't

worry we are doing whatever we can to

support

so

just enjoy the ride

there is no other option if it is not

very good

still it is an adventure you can say

betopen is saying from direct experience

it is observed that experiences are

appearing using sensors nervous system

and brain which are in the body please

help me to understand the non-locality

of experience it is mysterious for me

you see the senses the nervous system

brain

they are devices they are structures in

the memory that are limiting and

formatting the incoming vibrations

they're not causing an experience

they're changing whatever is there into

a limited form so that your intellect

can grasp it

whatever you call as knowledge can

happen the knowledge cannot happen if

there is a billion amount of billion

events that hit your memory i mean

knowledge is just simply making

relations and forming relations in the

incoming experiences it is like a

database it is like interrelations among

the database

those who are in the artificial

intelligence field

they will understand connections are

formed between various

patterns

in the memory

so the more limited they are the

more certain is the knowledge

you see those who are villagers they are

farmers and all they know a few things

but they know it certainly they're very

sure of it look at these philosophers

and all this

they're always hanging in the air about

everything they know one thing then they

say other thing guru is always also like

this

says one thing then says other thing

so there are so many tangled relations

there that if you don't manage them

nicely you'll go mad because too many

so that is why the these the mechanisms

in the body

the limit

and the incoming vibrations only to that

much which is necessary for survival of

this organism especially the body but

also for the other layers you are never

told too much you are never given too

much you are never shown too much thanks

to this the limiting mechanisms in the

layers