Tarun Pradhaan : The Illusion of Death

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welcome to the transmissions in the previous episodes we have seen that there is no individual and there are no

objects these are just illusions the illusions they come and go they appear

and disappear there is a very special kind of object which we call as the body

and there is a special kind of belief that is attached to this object that we

call as this person these both are illusions they appear there are

cumulation of the patterns and they disappear when this illusory person when

this illusory object the body disappears we call it the death there are so many

blank beliefs and superstitions that are being associated with the depth because

it is almost impossible to know what it is using our day-to-day experience using

our day-to-day intelligence and logic it defies all logic it is beyond ordinary

experience and so obviously there is a large amount of ignorance regarding the

disappearances of the illusions of the body the world and the mind

people have very funny kind of beliefs like some people believe that death of

the body the destruction of the body means the destruction of all experience

there is nothingness after death some

people think that this body is me and when this body is destroyed I am also destroyed they do not exist already

there is nothing there which is destroyed except the the body is just an accumulation of the

organic matter it is accumulated out of the environment and it returns to the environment as it

was nothing is really destroyed it only changes form the accumulation is

distributed recycled back in the environment it appears as other forms

the characteristic of the illusion is that it is impermanent it keeps changing

it changes whether you want it or not it changes whether this mind has

preferences in one way or the other way it changes according to its own nature

according to its own laws then some people have this belief that are going

to continue even after death now you get a brand new body and I will appear in

the brand new world some kind of heaven and some people are afraid because they

have done something wrong in their lives and the thing that they will appear in a hellish world that will be punished

after death even if there is no body they are going to be punished the whole

lives they believe that I am the body and when there is no more body a body that believes shifts to some other kind

of body and some other kind of world that is going through the punishment these are the superstitions there are a

few more people that believe that the consciousness continues after their death that means after the destruction

of the body that is another kind of superstition there is another kind of

black belief the consciousness was not ba and there is no point in saying that

it will continue after death the consciousness is not personal and therefore the experience is not personal

that which is conscious does not belong to a person and the person itself does

not exist so all these made scenarios are purely

imagination of a fertile mind there is a lot of fertilizer that is being poured

into such Minds by the society by the conditioning and therefore there are

garden variety of blank beliefs it's around this very ordinary experience

called death so let's start analyzing this thing called death we can start by

asking this question what is death and as we have seen that the death is not of

a person because the person does not exist the death is something which

happens to the body it is a change of state of the body that which is born

will die that which is assembled will be disassembled this is the rule in this

world in this illusion the body was assembled out of matter and it will be

disassembled it will be returned to the environment and that is what that

thing's it is nothing else and so we can define that as a total destruction of

the body it is not stopping of the breathing

it is not stopping of the heart or it is not stopping of the nervous system of or

any of its parts it is total disintegration of the body return to the

environment clearly there are many definitions they are all confusing there people are not

even sure what is that and so they assign different states of the body as

death so we are going to say that there is only one way to be sure that the

thing is dead and that is when the body is totally disintegrated into pieces

into dirt and is no more recognizable as a body that will be our definition

out of the depth now let us examine the beliefs that are surrounding this event

this is an event where the illusion of the body is destroyed there is no more a

body it is not a death of the person because the person is already not there the individual is already an illusion it

is not destroyed because it is not there it is not a destruction of the world the

world does not disappear because the world itself is an illusion it was not there so it is not destroyed so what is

actually destroyed the illusion itself is destroyed the illusion itself is gone

that is all the things there can be two points of view in order to study what

death is the first is the point of view of the others and the second is the

point point of view of myself my own point of view we can apply these two

points of views to the four kinds of experiences that we are talking about in

our series of transmissions which are experience of the world the experience

of the body the experience of the mind and the consciousness of this

experiences so let us see what happens to these experiences from them from

these two points of views my own point of view and point of view of somebody else from the point of view of somebody

else the world stays destruction of one body does not imply the destruction of

the whole world that is very very certain we are very sure because we see

people dying every day millions of people they are dying every day but the world remains the world goes on as usual

from the point of view of the dead person the world is an unknown because the

experience has disappeared the body is the one that provides us the experience of the world because of the

senses the senses are part of this body and when the same senses become direct

then the body disintegrates there is no more an experience of the world what

will be there if there is no world that is unknown precisely because it is not

our experience yet we cannot say anything about anything if we do not

experience it first so from my own point of view the world becomes an unknown is

it there or is it not there impossible to know without a body let us talk about

the body itself as we have defined the body disintegrates completely it is a

redistribution of the matter of the body into the environment that is very very

certain from the point of view of the others the body is no more from my point

of view what the subjective point of view the body becomes an unknown because

how do I know the body there are only two ways to not the body the first is using the senses the external senses the

body appears as another object in the world without the senses the body

becomes an unknown I won't even come to know what happened to the body because then the state of

the body cannot be known now it will be an assumption if I say that the body

will be destroyed it cannot be said because there is no experience of the

body being destroyed because we get this experience of the body via the senses

the other way to know the body directly is through the internal senses the internal sensations of the body and if

the body is destroyed the internal senses are also destroyed now there is

no more a sense of breathing or heart beating or pain or pleasure or hunger or balance are diagnosed heat

or cold in the body nothing the body becomes an unknown cannot be known what

what is happening to the body from the subjective point of view the experience

of the mind is an unknown he has never experienced the mind in absence of the

body there can be little bit of gray area here because we do experience a

mind when the body is forgotten like in the sleep the dreams appear in absence

of this physical body which which are a part of the experience of the mind so

there is a little bit of gray area here well whether I can experience the mind without a body or not that is not sure

so it is an unknown really we have never experienced a mind without a working

body without a working brain without a functioning organism there is no

experience without that or even if there is there is no memory of it

so the mind becomes an unknown for the person who who is dead from the

subjective point of view from the objective point of view it is still an

unknown I cannot know the state of the mind of the person who is dead the mind

the own that that body is no more accessible to me because the only way to

find out is there was a mind their own the body the owner of the body was

through the body the body expressed the mind without the body there is no way to

know what happened to the mind there is no way to know what happened to the individual that gets created in the mind

and there is no way to know what happened to the memories of that individual the memories the individual

claimed so from the point of view of the other

the mind becomes an unknown it is very interesting because there is this black

belief in our society then the man disappears with the body but that is not

true because nothing can be said about the mind after the body is gone you will

need to find in this destroyed mind you will need to find see the disappearing

of the mind which you cannot because mind is subjective experience only I can

know about the mind nobody else even in the waking State even in the alive state

and others have no idea of my subjective experience they only guess that there is

a mind here because it is being expressed through the body the bottles talking God is saying that I am thinking

I'm seeing I am having this experience or am having that experience in absence

of the body this expression is not possible then it is not possible to know whether there is still a subjective

experience there or not so honestly it is not possible to know

what happens to the mind when the body is destroyed it is a blind belief it is

it is it is an assumption to say that there is no more a mind the mind does

not exist if the body becomes dirt so

the mind very interestingly is an unknown for others let us look at the

consciousness from the point of view of the consciousness itself the

consciousness is an unknown the consciousness knows itself by reflecting

itself out of the experiences I know

that there is an experiencer only because there is an experience the experiencer knows itself as a reflection

of itself while the experiences no experience no experience of this is very

very logical this happens every nine when they enter into the deep sleep

where there is no experience or the experience is so dull and so beyond our

perception that it appears as if there is no experience and the corresponding

experience server is also not there and therefore people say that I was

unconscious in deep sleep so without the

experience which is being provided by the body the consciousness becomes an

unknown depth we have never seen a

consciousness which was independent of the body you have never experienced the

consciousness without a body and that is why in the absence of the body you

cannot say anything about the consciousness nothing can be said consciousness is unknown similarly from

the point of view of the others what happened to this consciousness which was expressing through the body

like the body was telling them that look there is a consciousness the

consciousness is experiencing through this body and when the body is no more and the body has dissolved back into the

environment there is no way to find out what happened to that consciousness which was claimed when the body was

there yes I'm pretty sure about my own consciousness but I am not sure about

what happened to that experience when the body was destroyed so from the point

of view of the other the consciousness is also unknown it is very interesting because there is this blind belief a

superstition among people that the consciousness disappears after the body is gone after after the body is dead

destroyed but the truth is the consciousness becomes an unknown nothing

can be said about the consciousness because the one holding the consciousness is not here right now also

you cannot say anything about the consciousness as being described by the others you do not know whether others

conscious have-nots you are sure about your own experience of the consciousness you have no knowledge of the experience

of the other consciousness except indirectly as reported by somebody else

you trust somebody else and then you assume yes probably there is also conscious experience there but you're

not certain you cannot be certain actually you're not certain certain of anything actually here in this illusion

of the world just like we discussed in the episode on the illusion of the world

it's only the subjective experience exists there is no objective experience what we call as the object of experience

is mutual agreement among our subjective experiences you do not know what the red

red color looks like to me you do not know how the sounds sound to me and you

do not know how the objects appear to me how do my thoughts and feelings appear to me and how do my dream look like to

me you have no knowledge of these things unless I tell you and if they match your

knowledge if they match your experience which is also subjective then you can agree or disagree upon it if you agree

we call it an object to experience yes you saw the same thing which I saw but

we never see the same things each of us sees a different world which is which is

totally subjective in nature so essentially we are uncertain about the

existence of the world also and because the body is just another object in this world it is a part of the world part of

this environment which we call is the world we are not really sure about the

body also the body appears and subject to experience there is no certainty of

any kind regarding any experience the only certainty that I can have is that

there is an experience of something that is all I can conclude I cannot include

anything else about experience and I cannot conclude anything about the experiencer also

because in absence of the experience there is nothing there there is no memory which stores the existence of the

experience circuit which tells me that there was an experiencer which experienced something there is no memory

like this we are not even certain of the memories because they are feeding we are

not certain of the mind because yet another illusion yet another experience we are not

certain of what causes the mind what causes the body what causes of the world

what causes this world we are not certain about any of the causes actually

why because it is an illusion there is no certainty of any kind in the illusion

would absurd enough is that vein is an experience and there is an experiencer

without the experiencer there cannot be an experience and the experience is

appearing in the experience search on the screen of the experience server

there appears an experience it is of different kind just like we said they

saw and we are not certain about any of these experiences actually the table

that I am showing here you can write unknown everywhere you can substitute these names that are cooked up by the

mind with unknown without certainty now

with this kind of eye-opening analysis what can you say about the depth you

cannot say anything certainly about the life also why are you so certain about

the depth what has happened to all of your beliefs and superstitions that you

gathered around this illusory event of death you have assumed so many things

about the death because there is new knowledge in the

absence of knowledge what do we do we assume things and when many people start

saying the same thing we simply think that it is the truth it is a consensus

opinion that is all it can be it can never become anything better than that

how to know the depth you will that is you know almost certain you will the

only way to know that is by dying and we are certainly not in a hurry you don't

want to know it just now but we can at least drop the blank beliefs all this

stupidity that was stuffed into our minds by the society regarding death regarding life regarding this body

regarding this individual it is all wrong it is all lies it is all

assumptions superstitions invented by ignorant random people that is all we

can do we can drop it when experience happens the knowledge will arrive not

right now there is no way to know there is no way to know death without

dying we can at least try a few things

there are two ways to get an idea about

death actually without really

experiencing the death you can know a little bit about the death depth the

first way is logic and the second way is experiment remember there is no third

way you cannot know what is death simply by listening to others who are totally

ignorant about what it is you cannot know what's depth by reading about it

reading about an experience does not give you the experience

so we describe the method of logic first rational critical thinking first we can

formulate some laws regarding the phenomena that we observe around us by

studying the nature of our own experience what do we observe here and

in the context of the death I will give you a few observations the first is that

which is born will die this is the rule here that which is assembled will be

disassembled it is a matter of time there is something called entropy that is happening here it takes energy to

keep a structure going in this world in the solution it is very interesting the

illusion is maintained by providing an energy to it otherwise it'd be centigrades it is disintegrating every

second and the second law here is that

in order for that thing to disappear or disintegrate it must change if it is not

changing it will not die it will not disappear it will not be destroyed this

is very logical it's kind of dead sound logic the third observation is that an

observer must be present in order to experience the disintegration disappearance destruction death whatever

you want to call it when the experience ceases you can call it with these names

but you must be present to see it to

experience the disappearance or stopping of that experience it must be

experienced otherwise you cannot say that it happened you cannot conclude anything about it if the observer is not

there and the observer is always subjective observer that means it is you

the conscious person which is you and the fourth rule is met no blind beliefs

are allowed no assumptions are allowed here what are assumptions in this cook the

imagination it is not going to give any knowledge whether it is yours or whether

it is somebody else's it does not matter how big a thority that person is he is

still alive he has never seen that so please do not believe anybody blindly you are a truth

seeker and beliefs have your enemies blind beliefs you can believe something

which you have experienced probably it is also very tricky because sometimes

what we experience is not really true so no assumptions not Harry's that is what

is the logical method that is the first method to know death so let us check

what was born out of these four experiences because there's nothing else

except these four experiences and there is only one experience actually just like we saw in our previous episodes

there's only one experience which the experience of the mind but for 10 minions we divided it into four

experiences four kinds of things it is for only for convenience just so that we

can talk about the experience of the mind what happens to the world whether

it was born when we ask this question whether the world was born

become a fifth no answer because we never saw the world appearing out of

nothing we appeared here not the world that is our direct experience some

people may like to say well I was born and the world appeared to me well by

that definition when you will die the world will disappear with you but that

is kind of subjective point of view the

consensus is that the world stays so we say the world was here before the body

was born and the world will stay after the body's gone the body is an

appearance in the world so the world is going to stay depending on

you look at the world so far for the

time being we can say that the world is going to stay because it was not born we

have never seen the birth of the world we have seen the birth of the experience worth of the memories we remember there

was a start of the world but we are not really sure whether that was the start

of the world ah it was started me we are not sure what is the consensus that

people say that the world was already there when this body appeared when this person started becoming aware of the

world so it is very very logical because we do not see the birth of the world we

cannot say that it will die or it will disappear that is very logical the

second experience the body we are pretty certain that the body was born although

from my point of view I've never seen the body being body somebody told me

that the body was born the birth is a process of assembly process of

accumulation that is what bad things and the accumulation is going on since the

beginning of the universe you were not born out of nothing you were born out of another body and that body was born out

of another body so because there is no beginning really of the body but there

is a beginning of the this body which is in time of the birth which happened at

the bed time appeared already as an accumulation the tiny one and then more

assembly happened and this assembly also happens every day this body dies every

day actually the body that was yesterday is not here now it is dead it has been

replaced by a new body which is constructed out of the matter that we

breathe and that we eat there is a new body every second so it is going to

disassemble because well it is also changing in the third rules

second rule says that that which changes will change into nothing one day it will

it will be it will become unrecognizable it will change so much and so we are

pretty certain that the body is going to disappear it will die we do see the

bodies being bought and we do see the body is dying so the observer is present to see the birth and death of the body

you can say but no I cannot see the death of my own body in destruction of my own body

and that is true but there will be an observer there will be an observer who

will see in depth of this body just like there were observers who saw the birth

of this born now let us look at the mind

can we say that the mind was born mind is the subject to experience which

nobody else can know that is the destination of the mind for the purpose of this dissipation so we do not really

remember the construction of mind out of what was it assembled but we are pretty

sure that it is changing isn't it the mind is content industry changing

probably it is changing much faster than this body so using our laws we can

conclude that theists there is a there will be time when money will disappear

now it is another matter whether it will disappear with the disappearance of the

body or with their very spanner than death for it is another time for its

depth because we really do not know when was the mind born there is no observer

for this appearance of the mind even I do not know when the mind was born I

cannot recall any such observation it is an assumption to say that the mind was

born with this body there is no real observation like that and even the

others cannot say when was it because why cannot be seen mind is not

an object which is in the which is a part of the world it does not belong to

this world the mind is a different experience so

using our laws we can conclude then because nobody observed the mind including my solution there is no birth

of the mind and there is no death of the mind but there is a change in the mind and we cannot be sure how long this

change will continue it is certain that it will it will change into something

which is not recognizable as this mind but it is not certain whether it will be

destroyed completely anyhow there is no destruction there is only change one

form changes into the other for example when you break a glass we see that the

glass is destroyed but only it is a change of the Fontan the glass is still there in another form now it has become

direct it is all it is you know many pieces on the floor it is no more useful and that is why have you

think that there is no glass but even before the glass was assembled there was

glass in the form of sand the sand was there in the form of rocks and so on the

rocks rocks were there in the form of crystals and atoms that were there in

the form of energy and vibration nothing is really destroyed here only change in

the form so the birth and death are nothing but a change of form if it

becomes unrecognizable we say that the form is destroyed the elements are not

destroyed that which is which constitutes that form simply is

redistributed in another form we are very very certain about what will happen to the body it will be redistributed in

the environment but we are not sure about the mind because we do not even know out of what

elements the mind was instructed we can say that they are the vibrations of some kind because that is all berries so the

change is the only experience that will experience we do not experience anything

except change and just the technical word for change is a vibration vibration

is the change so we can say the mind was made up of by vibrations in this

subjective experience and the vibrations will change into some other form what

for we are not certain we have never experienced it in our lives as this body

so there is possibility that there will be form there the mind will take another

form but we do not really know what form it is not logical to conclude that the

destruction of one form which is the disease body has any bearing on the

destruction of the other form which is this mind it is illogical especially

when you do not know what is this body and what's this mind you do not know that simply assume that you know you you

are experiencing it but you really do not know and that is what that shows us

that that is a door beyond which there is unknown and since the death destroys

all our assumptions all our illogical believes we are afraid of it there is

the only fear there is the fear of the unknown so there is a possibility that the mind will change form into something

which cannot be recognized now but there is no certainty that everything will be

destroyed about it just like you know everything is not destroyed in case of the body and in case of the world

something remains in a different form we can conclude logically something remains

of the mind in a different form it is very trusting because you never

thought about this thing before there is a logical possibility although

we cannot say anything about it with certainty because we have never experienced such mind which was present

without a body our mind which was presented some of the farm in this

disassembled form now let us take a look at the consciousness and try to apply

the laws there when was the consciousness born and it is kind of

very difficult question because nobody knows even I don't do not know and

whether it will die if I do not know when it was born

I cannot conclude when it will die that is inconclusive

regarding the depth of the consciousness is it an assembly of some kind and what

is it assembled of then also we do not know because we do not see any matter in the consciousness we see vibrations in

the mind because it is a experience but the consciousness is me the consciousness is the experiencer it is

the witness it is the cells it is not made up of any vibrations it is that which experiences

all kinds of vibrations now all kinds of experiences it is the one that is

experiencing can hardly made up of anything else because if you say it is made up of something then that thing the

substance will become an experience it will not remain an experience sir so we

say that the consciousness is made of course nothing it is emptiness should never miss zero zero dimensional it does

not have any extent because it's not it was not assembled out of anything so

logically we can conclude that there was no quirk of consciousness so using this

rule we can say that there will be no depth of consciousness that is that is probably not only certainty this is

probably the only good news yes there will be total destruction of the body

there will be destruction the mind when we don't know but there will be there will be destruction of the

world because this experience which has been provided by the body body but

you're fairly certain the consciousness nothing can happen to it let us try to

apply the law of the change to the consciousness how the consciousness is changing now we are very certain that

the experience is changing everything that is changing is an experience what about the experience are the witness

that is witnessing experience is it changing is it made up of something

which is transforming himself some way and we come up with no answers because

you cannot see anything now you can be certain of it because you are the consciousness there is the consciousness

there it's very very sudden so whatever you see in that consciousness you can be

absolutely certain first thing you are certain is that it is there the second

thing we are certain it has no form there is no shape it doesn't know extent there is nothing there which can change

it is emptiness you are absolutely certain of that it is not an experience

also it never started also and so you are certain that it will not end also

and actually it cannot be seen as starting an ending because as soon as

you assume that the consciousness started at one point there needs to be an observer of the consciousness

starting there and the observer cannot anybody else except the consciousness so

it is logically impossible to witness start of the consciousness because it is

the consciousness itself that sees and see any kind of start or any kind of end

if you assume that the consciousness started at one point in the time well

you must be present there to observe that beginning just like a word law

number three says there must be an observer in order to conclude the beginning or assembly

work of something that is an impossibility if I can experience the

bending of the consciousness itself that means I was already conscious before the beginning started before the beginning

of consciousness it is funny but it is very very solid logic similarly I can

say that I experienced the depth of the consciousness I experienced the disappearance of the consciousness that

means I am present here to experience the disappearance which is illogical

because how can I disappear while experiencing the disappearance it is not

possible can somebody else experience the appearance of the consciousness already end of the consciousness no

because it is not something which can be seen in the world it is not in the world

the consciousness does not appear in the world the world appears in consciousness

nothing can be said about it because it is not changing also it is not made up

of anything which changes we can certainly conclude that it will not end there is no death for consciousness

there is appearance and disappearance of experiences of all kinds but the

experiencer cannot appear or disappear it is logically impossible

it was never born and so it will never die it never change so it will not change into some some other form it has

no form it does not take any forms it is the witness rockfalls and I'm that

consciousness that is probably the only good news that you will hear in this whole world in your whole life

it's very expecting good here except this so we are very certain that

consciousness was not born it will not die it does not change and there was no

observer to observe the beginning of the consciousness there was no observer to the end of the consciousness because it

will be the consciousness itself there is another thing logical tool that we

can use to establish the perpetual nature of consciousness and that is the

absence of time just like we saw on the episode on the illusion of the time the

consciousness does not experience time the time arises as an illusion created

by the mind created by the memory if there is no memory there is no mind there is not time consciousness is

timeless eternal fundamental reality we are the time itself appears so you can

say that since there is no time the question of the beginning at the end does not arise this is this is very very

interesting this is very advanced and a few logic because then you can ask what

about the start of boil then because there is no time then it does not apply

to the world also there is no start of the world also now it is true from the

point of view of the consciousness which is now a point of view actually there is not a point of view you have never seen

anything from any other point of view except the point of view of the consciousness so you can conclude that

the oh the world was also you know not born the bodies were also not born the person

was not born and the mind was not born in time it appeared at once this

everything appeared at once and there is a very interesting metaphor that

describes this kind of experience and that is your dreams when you dream at night the whole world appears the body a

dream character appears mind appears we start feeling thinking in purple bead

ring the whole history appears of this character not only that the whole history of the environment appears you

can see the ruing buildings there in the dream you can read a history book in the dream you have

your parents in the dream which I existed before you or you think there will be and you can see the deaths in

the dream you can even experience your own death in the dream I experienced the

disappearance of the world in the dream but it did not really happen everything

appeared and then disappeared unlike in the waking State the dream also has no

time the time appears in the dream as a part of the dream so that gives us a

hint about about the nature of the existence that it is timeless nothing is

happening here in terms of the time there are no beginnings and there are no ends and since the time is not passing

nothing is really changing the change itself is an illusion created by the

memory because we have seen that no memory means no change and no experience nothing can be experienced without the

mind what does that tell you about the death Wow it is an illusion just like

everything else it is an event which is illusory just like every other event it

is a part of the dream which you call life there's nothing else there's

nothing substantial this is no truth in saying things die it is an invention of

this society the ignorant people in our society nobody really knows what is this

nobody really knows what is this existence they are very certain about all those things my job is to destroy

the certainty my job is not to tell you anything which is certain that which is

certain that you that you already know the only certainty is your own existence

this presence that you are the conscious presence that you are you are existence

yourself because there's nothing else in the existence except this conscious presence everything else is appearing

and disappearing including the which you're so fond of and you cry with

one of these bodies they disappear somehow isn't that stupidity you think

I'm going to die oh no I'm going to die I need to enjoy as much as possible before I die

what are you enjoying here what is going to die here there are some people so-called

spiritual people they are more certain than anybody else actually and the thing I will reappear here I'll do L reborn

here there will be reincarnation of myself here what wins stupidity is that

what experience tells you that you appear and disappear you are ever

present your timelessly eternally present how can you appear and disappear as forms yes the Falls can appear and

disappear then it's a very bad experience you you do not appear and you

do not disappear there is nothing there to appear there is nothing disappear it

is not happening in time there is no possibility of you appearing or disappearing you do not take form the

forms are you the forms appear in you

you are the screen on which the movies appeared the movies disappear can you

say that the screen took the form you know the screen is the form there is no fog without the screen you are that

screen why would you identify yourself with the forms that come and go even

then disappear incarnate understand it

when is the truth in that if you can

experience it as coming and going it is not you this is that rule this is the

logical rule the observer is not the observed and the subject is not the

object why do you think that which appears and dissapears takes birth is

you that is stupidity now other way to know the death

is true experimentation and no I am not recommending that you die and find out

your what is death because it will happen you see it will happen one day this very assertive actually even it's a

thing I'm not going to die but I am NOT going to die tomorrow but I am NOT going to die next minute it is foolishness

don't be so certain the form can disappear anytime it is very very

fragile and it is an illusion it can go anytime don't get attached to the form

otherwise we're suffering which is stupidity because what are you suffering

actually what are you suffering about

what is the suffering consists of clinging to lose reform that is already

dead there is already going in this dead body which looks like a robot is the

reason of your suffering how intelligent is that so there are ways to find out

what can happen to the body and mind in consciousness and the world without

really destroying the body because we have defined the death as destruction of

the body so it is possible to simulate the depth it can be done by pretending

that you are dead you can try to forget the body you can

try to see what remains of the experience when this experience of the

body is not there because just like we saw we have never experienced anything else in the sense of the body at least

you do not remember it so what we do is we try to experience something while

forgetting the body how to do that how do you know there is the body how do you

know you are inside the body the body's inside you does not really matter you see there's no inside or

outside in the experience it's all mine created so the senses are the only thing

that tell us about the body or this world if we ignore the senses you don't

need to destroy them because it's going to happen anywhere you see so do not try to destroy them and try to learn from

this experience of the body so we ignore the senses and fortunately our minds are

capable of that which happens every night party day whenever you sleep the

sensory inputs are ignored when you disconnect the senses from your experience which is the possibility it

is very much possible you see you will get an experience without the body you

will arrive at an experience that is without the body now do not assume that this is an experience without the body

it is simply enactment of death is not

real death because the body is still there you will be back in the body very there's very very sure it is certain but

you can get a glimpse of what can be the experience when it is not an experience

of these five senses or the internal senses of the body also you need to forget the body completely not only

these five senses you will need to disconnect from the internal senses also

and then we connect to the mental senses something which I call as non physical

senses about which we are going to talk later in detail how to do all these

things but that you can guess now is a state of the mind it is an altered state

of the mind it is now no more awaking state and it is not also a dreaming state under this state of sleep and it

is certainly not the state of death because the body is safe and in the same

one-piece structure so that is

experimental ways to find the nature of the experience without the

physical body you can form a set of theories here I mean I'm going to be

lenient and I'm going to be a little bit lenient here for a while because

experimentation demands some kind of moral making processes using without a

model without structure of your experience you cannot actually explain the experience so you can start forming

theories here based on your own experiences based on your own experiments and try to conclude

something about the state of the death it is slightly more controversial and

you can say oh we'll bill it will be subjective yes this holds subjective

science the science of the mind is entirely subjective it depends totally on your own experiment you can compare

notes with others who are doing similar XP experiments but you can and cannot conclude anything about the truth of it

your experience can be completely different but I can assure you that it

will be mind-blowing experience that will do one thing which is our goal here

in the series about the illusions it will destroy all your blank beliefs that

is what you want ignorance is presence of blind believes assumptions the brainwashing the

conditioning that happened to the society the ignorant that was stuffed into your mind by the spam by other

ignorant people the experiments are going to destroy that ignorant that is

the biggest achievement of your life actually this whole life is kind of useless dream if you do not know what it

is if you do not eat at least try to know what you are what this experience

is it is completely useless waste of time you can say it's a waste of a

lifetime if you do not explore that is what a seeker is to me the secret is

exploring do not make a make death as a

monster that is going to eat you study it study and dispel the darkness that is

your ignorance it is just another illusion now study this illusion it is

very interesting then it is going to happen so be prepared how can you prepare not by reading about it not by

listening to all these stupid stories about death and after death and before birth and whatever you see you can

prepare only by experimentation and the logic and rational abilities of the mind

our help here experiment logically be

the decider of your own truth be the

judge of your own experience don't let anybody else tell you you are right or wrong you see I have seen the

self-appointed judges of the truth who tell you about your own experience they

do not they do not know anything a damn thing about their own experience but the judge others experiences they tell them

you are right and you are wrong do not be a judge be a detective be the

inspector who inspects the scene of trend do not pay attention to the person

who is sitting in the armchair and judging what the detectives are detecting there are stupid people they

are ignorant people Explorer knows by exploring thank you for listening

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