Ignorance, Books, Experience, Projected States

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when can we say the knowledge ends

the ignorance ends not the knowledge

ignorance ends

and when the

fundamentals are understood there is

nothing to know it is not that you will

end up with a lot of facts and

books piles of books of knowledge

nothing will be

left there so

it's more accurate to say that the

ignorance ends

the knowledge is of the illusion

which will never end in finite because

the illusion is infinite how much will

you know you know the whole world there

are more

thousands millions of words to know

can an ignorant person know that he or

she is ignorant

you know some people can have a hint

that they lack something but

they don't know what they lack as soon

as they know it it's gone

if a ignorant person knows

she is ignorant

she'll try to get knowledge immediately

the correction will start as soon as the

ignorance is known why do people stay

ignorant for whole of their lives now

many lives no

why do they do that

dissatisfaction

is the result of ignorance the outcome

side effect suffering dissatisfaction

stupidity bondage like a donkey you're

fulfilling everybody else's desires what

are these

symptoms of ignorance

knowing that i am ignorant is the first

step to come out of it

the ignorance when it is known will no

longer remain ignorance for long it

won't remain ignorance

there is complete belief in that person

that i know everything actually the

first sign of ignorance

is that fellow is convinced that i know

everything i am the most intelligent

human on this planet there is the

ignorance you see

the person with the most hubris and

superiority complex has the lowest

intelligence on this planet finally it

will be known that there is no one who

is ignorant there is just ignorance

which book has complete knowledge

no book has complete knowledge there is

no

knowledge in the book the book is

written after the knowledge is there

book is not a source of knowledge it is

expression of knowledge

and all people on the path of knowledge

should do something like this get the

knowledge which is your own effort isn't

it direct experience and logic in the

hint of the guru these are the

ingredients of the recipe of knowledge

now write the book recipe book right yes

book of me

my book you can write ibook no i is a

fashion nowadays to put i everywhere

with so much ego involved you know

consumerist people i means

great it is going to sell the product so

write the ibook who am i

so everybody's doing it you should also

write your own the recipe is done first

then the book is written have you ever

seen

a cooking book where the cook knows

nothing about cooking and writing books

or he knows everything simply because he

read the cookbook never cooked anything

in his life is it possible

same way there can be knowledge in the

books which will be expression of what

the person knows you need to get your

own knowledge

we have thrown out the books as a source

of knowledge

they are useful only after you get the

knowledge and they are useful for the

illusion obviously very useful for the

illusion

experiences depend on the experiencer

state your opinion is experienced

dependent on the experiencer how is the

experience depend on the experience self

there is no experience without some

experience sir no experience without the

experiencer

the relation dependence assumes

that one follows the other right your

child is dependent on you let us say

social situation so you have an

independent existence without your child

and let us say the fire depends on the

fuel so fuel is already there then comes

the fire which is which cannot happen

without the petrol or oil whatever coal

is something like this happening

sewage is saying yes experience the

essence of all experiences that is also

true that since comes out to be the

experiencer but we are not talking about

it what is the essence of the existence

can we have this kind of a dependency

relation between the two

the relation is of oneness not our

dependency

the word hints towards a very peculiar

relation but it's not a relation

actually it takes two to relate it takes

two to relate

it is only one is is a relation possible

is dependency possible

like i gave you the example of fire the

fuel exists without fire also but the

experiencer does not is never seen

without experience amazing and the

experiences was

never seen without a body and so that is

the cause of the illusion i mean that's

the cause of the ignorance that the

experience depends on the body there

begins the materialism

and the root you can trace it to the

word dependency because the word

dependency was not understood by the

materialist

argument is the body comes first then

comes the experiencer of the body which

is dependent on the body is this

argument correct obviously totally

illogical stupid argument the body was

never seen without the experiencer

so the idealist has a opposite

argument

like the experiencer is the fundamental

and the body appears in it the body is

dependent on it and that is the you know

trademark of shaivism and some other

philosophies

but

non-non-dualist knows in this whole

universe you know only non-dualist

people know others i don't have any good

words for them so

very convenient to talk in dual language

because that is whatever intellect can

grasp

can they grasp the non-duality

no

so it is very uh natural for these kind

of confusions to be there what is depend

on what because you are

trapped in duality most of the time you

are discussing duality

i mean there is nothing to discuss in

non-duality it is silence

isn't it the end of seeking instead of

end of ignorance

yes yes you are also right you are also

right end of path end of seeking end of

trouble end of suffering

when you know your true nature it ends

so many things isn't it end of bondage

end of birth

death and so on you see the fruits are

many so but we are focusing on the

knowledge here

when you get the knowledge of the

seeking is obviously going to end what

are you seeking now

that's why you know i urge people to not

to

get lost in the illusion so much

you know in the practice you know i i

kill their practices all of them

because

what are you doing

with knowledge it is just habit

you are mechanically doing your

practices

even after getting the knowledge it is

like you know you turned off the fan and

the fan is still going on so i simply

put a broom in the fan and stop it

can we understand that likes and

dislikes are majorly due to our

pre-allocation of course some are

acquired over time of this life due to

sweet or sore personal experience css

perfectly right many of your likes and

dislikes preferences i call them

preferences because

anyway so they are mostly coming from

your real operation which is not a

correct word it comes from your causal

body so you get the you can say a

fragrance of your past lives there in

the likes and dislikes and preferences

which you can see in the children little

kids

they come with a built-in personality if

you observe carefully not all of them

some are raw some are blank slate but

many of them so

and in this lifetime also

again accumulate

many of the preferences the world can

change you can come and so on

i am the self the self is just a witness

of all experiences and there is no free

will then do we need to play double role

one role

as you have realized who you are and

other as one as per the ignorant

environment in which you have to live no

no don't open the doors of mental asylum

don't

you have to play only one role which is

being a human whatever environment it is

play the role of human can you play the

role of the experiencer or the self no

you are originally that you see when an

actor is playing the role of let us say

hero superhero so is he playing two

roles in the movie

why one which he is in the real real

life and the other batman is it possible

no he's only playing one role of the

batman and then he realizes he gets a

glimpses of what he's actually is

outside the screen out you know outside

the view of the camera same way actually

he's always he's always in the knowledge

of what he is but he's playing the role

for the movie

the whole illusion is a movie

you need to play your role there you all

learn enjoy fulfill your desires

struggle suffer this is the movie it has

all the you can say masala movie of

bollywood in the end there is no

marriage you know except that it is

bollywood

then

you don't need to play the role of self

you are the self

let this play happen in this background

of peace and bliss of what you are see

you are the screen you are not the movie

don't try to

make the character out of self and try

to play it on the screen what kind of

ignorance is that we'll never do that

what is the meaning of awareness simply

knowing that i am the screen and then

letting the movie play on the screen is

that difficult no it is easier than

breathing

can you talk about astral projections

and the difference with projected states

is a similar technique used to induce it

yes very similar

and

the word projected states is a general

word

which is spectrum of all projections

under the word projected states comes

all the possible projections

astral is one of the possibilities only

so astral projection comes from the

western occult and

you will find that many explorers they

use this but there are many more who

will also talk about other kinds of

projections for example the etheric

projection the mental projection and

projections in the lower worlds and in

the higher worlds they differentiate

between

a lot of projections and there are

various experiences under the word

projection

now the biggest projection and the most

important one is that which is happy

happening right now your waking state is

also a projection but we never call it

astral projection so astral projection

is something which is identified with

emotions actually

when you are astral projecting you land

immediately in a desire fulfillment zone

there are specific techniques to do that

but let us say there is etheric

projection or you can say even the

ectoplasmic projections

those who are in the occult they know

all these things

they're more difficult to achieve and

they're more life like by life like i

mean more like the waking state the

astral will be more like the dream state

where you get the dream body but it will

be also very convincing

actually these series of projections can

happen as all your bodies detach

from the physical

this is open language please don't

assume that there are bodies and they

detach this is cryptic language

when you get the experience you will

know why this language is being used

like this so you can start with the

etheric and the etheric body then loses

energy

you know and then astral starts then the

astral loses energy and the dream starts

something like this then waking starts

it can go like this in cyclic manner

so

what is the difference projected states

include all kinds of projections

astral there is you can say that

specific kind of projection

but there are opinions about it in the

local world there there will be

difference of opinion about what is the

meaning of astral

so what did we do in our program

obviously throughout the corrupt words

throw it out meaningless now when you

get the knowledge of the layers you can

associate one projected state with one

layer

am i right or a group of layers like in

the waking state the physical and so on

up to

up to you can say the emotional has been

manifested in the physical form the pain

and pleasure and all what are these

things

they are you know these group of layers

they have been manifested

whatever you call as human being it is a

projection of the memory it's not real

memory only

but then you see

what happens with the attention shifts

from this lower layers they are not

lower actually they are simply other

projection

but when you shift it to something else

by shifting i mean completely forgetting

the lower but forgetting i mean you see

it's very difficult to mix the occult

with the path of knowledge

you have the knowledge of what you are

in the waking state

but you don't have the experience that

is what we call forgetting sleeping

and there

you know which of the layer will be

activated first it will be the etheric

the just above the nervous system

because the nervous system and below has

been put to sleep no knowledge of it now

so that is the first one that will be

induced if you want to induce something

what do we do our techniques should

reflect it like he's asked about the

techniques also so our techniques they

are dependent on what kind of projection

you want so i have given a general

technique you know shift your attention

to any layer you will get that

projection just when you stop listening

to your inner sound the ringing in the

ear the hissing sound of silence

there you have achieved the suppression

from the nervous system that is the

ethic projection most of the people will

find themselves still standing in the

room floating in the room there's no

place to stand there no floor no room

they find themselves in an energetic

copy of physical

so

but you can you can leave it it's very

limited almost physical then there comes

the astral which is you know now the

world of emotions desires little bit of

intelligence yes that is the proper

astral

and then comes the higher projections

which you all know what they are when

you you're reading the akashic records

it is a very high kind of projection you

cannot call it astral but because of

widespread ignorance about the states

and projections and so on uh there is

not enough terms in english language i

mean who knows there can be terms in the

occult language but

and i've never seen many terms in

sanskrit also because this knowledge is

kept

so confidential that there are no proper

words

and for the first time in our program we

have opened it still i'm not i'm not

giving them any specific names

no specific names are given i simply say

look there's a projected body

corresponding to every layer sometimes

the

neighboring layers they are grouped in

you know they get they

influence the experience so technique is

mostly shifting of attention forgetting

of other layers that is the basic

technique you can build your own

technique to do that you can build your

own technique so i have not given any

you know too much detailed technique you

can find them in books anyway so i have

not given them they're very good books

on astral projection and other

projections and there are some books on

mental projections where in the guru

field and all those things comes from