Advaita - The Unknowable

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what if

the advaithvedant is wrong

what if all this philosophy is also

false

because coming from a human mind

is possible that there is some error

somewhere

now why is this question

first there is a lack of study and lack

of

experience there

and second

the mind still has some expectation

probably it's bigger than that probably

it's not oneness probably there is

purpose probably it's going to be better

somewhere and because the mind is

brainwashed it is it has become

religious mind

there is hope there

hope is the problem isn't it

that's why these ordinary things

you don't like them

because always hope for better

always in future

our past where things were nice and cool

and present is a burden

and that is the problem

when told that there is no such thing

there is only this present moment which

is absolutely perfect beautiful and

blissful right now right here

an ordinary mind or a seeker's mind also

is not satisfied

because very grand delusions are there

in the mind

so such questions happen

what if advaita is wrong

what is there is something better

what if the non-duality is also illusion

and there is something more beyond that

is there any way to check whether it is

right or wrong

true or false

in the concept of non-duality or should

we take the word of the guru on blind

faith

because there is no other way

have you ever thought about this

teachings can be wrong it is human mind

it's possible possible

to

make an error look at all those

scientists you see

the great scientists most of them were

wrong

this knowledge is very very old many

thousand years old people were

not so advanced that is what you are

told

therefore it can be wrong

sounds logical it is not but

we can have this kind of doubt

so if somebody gets this kind of doubt

what should we do

there are two kinds of minds isn't it

when whatever you tell them

and many people are talking the same

thing

this mind will never doubt it we'll say

yes

obviously

this old knowledge everybody's talking

about it so many gurus are there

look perfectly honest

it sounds logical and all and they

accept it

also there is non-duality

also it's oneness

it's emptiness

self

yes yes the consciousness is here i can

see it

so on

and then they then then they don't even

wonder i don't think people wonder about

this or not but

nothing really changes after this

same life

another layer of beliefs on top of

so many beliefs

and there is the other kind of people

who will say no no this cannot is not

possible

what i know is right

not that which i am told

these are all gurus they are fake they

just want money there is some religion

of some kind from the eastern countries

old old stuff superstition

and no amount of logic or experience

will convince them

skeptical people

and probably this question is coming

from

the skeptical kind what if advaita is

wrong because the believers they don't

want to even

touch this question

they become afraid as soon as you tell

them look this belief that you are

holding can be wrong and then they will

avoid you forever

because the ego is like this it does not

want to

let go of belief where it has found

security

this attachment

to the belief

it's not knowledge

and the second one probably there is

anti-belief there is a negative belief

also the same as positive belief no

difference at all

so

that that should settle the question is

it right or wrong and the answer is who

cares

do not believe

do not believe that is right do not

believe that it is wrong

this is the attitude of a seeker

agnostic

you say i don't know

and i don't care

this is the right attitude now you are

not going to have this attitude just

because i said it just because it is

recommended

you will find initially

yourself into these two camps one of

these two

a total believer a total disbeliever

they are one in the same thing

same ego

egoic

issue once you have done that kind of

circus a lot

then you will reach this attitude of

not knowing

not knowing is of greater value than

knowing

don't know

these are the golden words

what if it is wrong is that nothing is

going to change

if it is right nothing is going to

change this is disappointing isn't it

that's why i never say this

look don't try to know anything because

nothing is going to change

this is not really

a logical way of

imparting the knowledge you will need to

make up a story

that um

how these are your questions okay i have

the answer here is your answer

is it satisfying yes yes and the person

goes away very happy

and something changes for that person

if you get into a belief that look it

had an effect had good effect changed my

mind changed my life and so on

then you are in the camp number one

believers

now no amount of argument will

get rid of this belief that this is

right

and if

you found it totally useless then you

are in the

it does not

answer your question

so you are in the camp number two is

useless nothing has changed for you

so a seeker is

not in both camps

okay here is my answer now

nothing

is it useful okay it's useful so i'll

use it is it true

now you will need to remain silent

how can we say that

what is true here

those who have listened to

my

thoughts on truth

they will recall that there is no such

thing

true or false

there is no such thing as right or wrong

there is no such thing as absolute

non-absolute

it is unknowable

so the correct response is i don't know

and

this this is where i arrived after a

long time of

you know oscillating between air

problems bs

religious stuff

because so many religious

crept out of this philosophy

and

almost all religions actually this is

called sanatana dharma

so and in future also many many will

come out of this belief systems will

come out of it

so

there are many belief systems that are

extinct now and they came out of this

only

there is nothing else to

found your religion on

non-duality is the only thing

so

after oscillating between these

okay this man is very very smart he has

all the answers

to my all all my question always comes

up with the right answer

and now he is my guru

so he said non-duality is right okay

then it is right i don't need to worry

too much

my life is solved now no more seeking

now what is this this is and again

belief system settling into a belief

now you will say no i have the direct

experience that this is non-duality

and again i'll tell you something which

i never say

do not trust your experience

now in advaith we have these only four

means to gain knowledge the first is

direct experience second is logic the

third is a guru fourth is scripture or a

book

same as guru isn't it and the guru is

talking from logic and direct experience

and the logic is based on direct

experience so everything boils down to

your experience and when you say

it is my experience

this non-duality this is fundamental

now

this very little room to move here

and there's no place to go anywhere else

because you are accepted

the direct experience is a valid means

of knowledge

look at your direct experience for a

moment

this is where probably there is a

difference of opinion between

advaith and buddhism

look at your direct experience all your

experience is fake

look at it

but you can say no that which is

experiencing cannot be fake

do you know what he's experiencing

and the answer is no i don't know

and the paradox series that if you know

it

through direct experience it is not real

it is something separate

from you

and if it is you

then you don't know it because it is you

you need a separation you need a subject

object relation in order to know

something and therefore the i cannot be

known the self cannot be known

the experience cannot be known

and your guru is telling you well there

is no difference between experience and

the experience or they're one this is

the definition of oneness

oneness does not mean that everything is

you know one solid ball somewhere

hanging somewhere it's not oneness

and oneness means there is no subject

object relation

then who is the knower and what is the

known if there is

no two

it's not two and they were very very

intelligent people isn't it when they

said not to they did not say one

because we cannot go beyond not two

there is nothing to know beyond not two

if you cannot know it you cannot say

about it

silence is the

best answer

or the next best is i'll say i don't

know

and people are going to object what do

you mean this guy mark this is path of

knowledge and you're saying i don't know

and

and then the correct response is who

cares

is it required

is the knowledge

really necessary

are the means of knowledge written in

stone somewhere

these are the commands from above

no

so what advaith is doing is not giving

you anything solid to hold on

don't ask right and wrong don't ask true

and false

from the beginning it says i don't know

and in the end also it says i don't know

and the end i don't know is a better

position to be in

prison beginning this total ignorance

probably presence of all kinds of

beliefs

the ignorance is nothing it's only

believing something else

so the path of knowledge will shed the

ignorance

in the end remains i don't know and that

includes

the answer to the question whether it is

right or wrong if you say right

there's a big problem here

you're in camp number one you are a

blind believer

because you don't know

what advice is

then if you don't know what it is

you cannot make a statement about it

being right or wrong it's probably too

difficult for you guys but i think you

are here

since one year or so

so

the last

what you call the straw on which you are

hanging

must be taken away

there is no right and there is no wrong

there is no

error and there is no

correctness

in advaitha

if it is your experience that it is

right then probably something big is

wrong

probably something

some delusion is still there very very

fine delusion is there remaining

delusion

ah now i am a ghani i know everything

and this is the right thing to know

and this is sign of delusion

so

some people will say well this is a true

advaith not knowing no it's not true

advaith it's not true at all

and it's not false also

so when i say look this is true isn't it

in your experience this is true your

experience is truth

and the this is half truth

actually

this is not true

do not trust your experience it is true

in some relative way it is true and it

is useful as long as it is destroying

your belief of some kind a belief is

destroyed well this job is done the job

of the experience is then

now you let go of it

do not make it turn it into a belief of

some kind because i am guaranteeing you

that

there will be some other experience

which will prove it wrong completely

wrong

so after oscillating

like this

i came to this conclusion yes

it is okay

that means no statements can be made

so now you can see all the philosophies

all the

traditions religions and they mean

nothing

and they are

not right they are not wrong

they are meaningless purposeless

everything you do is has no meaning and

this is the essence

you cannot put a purpose you cannot put

a right and wrong stamp on this

existence whatever it is

so the zen master will say that

those who know

they don't know

those who don't know they know

not only then other traditions also will

say something like this like hermetics

and

probably

itself will say something like this

the problem is people know half

or maybe 90 percent

and they assume oh yes the amazing thing

this is what i like

and

they don't get the essence

cannot be bound in right and wrong

as long as long as there is something

which is true there will be something

which is false and then you will

encounter suffering

a look somebody somebody has said

something false

look i i assume this thing in which

which is false

now for you for ordinary people this is

not much

but for a foreign seeker this is

absolute pain isn't it

i was believing in something which was

wrong

it's painful to think about

like this

and then what should i do and then

should i not know anything because in

the end i'm not going to know anything

no that is against stupidity you will

need to break down everything that you

know

and should i not do the effort of

knowing and

there are these you know practices that

are there

of listening and meditating and

introspecting

seeing through the direct experience

they are absolutely necessary

to arrive at the

point of not knowing if you don't do

that all that which is recommended

then there is no possibility then the

first i don't know will remain

it won't grow to this

complete vast

enlightened i don't know

there's no possibility to come from

that first i don't know is dark

tiny

minuscule i don't know there's nothing

beyond that and this one

this not knowing

is infinite bright

empty

in that i don't know there's a lot to

know lot remains to know in this i don't

know nothing remains to know

nothing can be known

that i don't know is coming from the

mind mind is saying i don't know

and this i don't know is coming from you

that man

it is asserting i am

nothing to be known

look at this

this is what i am nothing to be known

here

so those who have this doubt i think it

will be solved by now

i did not answer as usual i destroyed

the question

but what i recommend is

before breakfast every morning destroy

all the knowledge that you have

destroy all the advaith that you have

heard

every morning before breakfast

and by the time you finish the breakfast

the whole advaith will be back in place

it cannot go away

and

when you destroy the knowledge what are

you left with i don't know

when you assemble it back through your

direct experience and logic

you should be left with i don't know

if you're left with right and wrong and

this and that and oneness and two-ness

well

that your breakfast time is wasted

better enjoy the breakfast

so i do this many times

you say what is the what is the need

well the need is to destroy this

question

see what you get

see what you get through your direct

experience and logic also if you don't

get the silence in the end something is

wrong

so

people will say it's too much

i took ten years to understand all the

vedas and all the opnisha the all the

great masters thousand hours of videos

and all

such things you are telling me to

destroy it disbelieve it totally

and here the mind has taken a hold you

see

the mind has made a house in this

knowledge

it has become a believer of knowledge

knowledge is not to be believed is to be

known

and that which can be known in an

instant which is what this is

can be destroyed in an instant it does

not take time

how did you manage to take 10 years to

know this much

this tiny thing it's not true

i know there is a reason there is a long

story of the mind it takes some time to

it takes time only because of this

issues of true and false and this and

that

because the pointing is very very quick

because it is instantaneously

acquired it can be in a second you can

get rid of it get rid of all knowledge

before just before starting the

breakfast

and then look at the experience again

look at the experiencer again

look at the oneness again

look at the maya again look at the mind

the empty nature of it again

and it should take less than 10 minutes

it is all reassembled

it is by necessity actually

that's why it is called sanatana it does

not go away

it appears in many many forms and

languages and traditions

is it right

no

is it totally wrong and no is it an

illusion no

it is unknowable

so in the end you will say well this is

it and

i really don't know

and then the life is ordinary you see as

soon as you say i know something big

well the expectation will come

now i need to change this and that here

and there and and that will bring

suffering a suffering is a sign that you

have

your mind has made a house somewhere on

the bridge which is burning

so like they say don't build your house

on a bridge

and advert is a bridge

to

not knowing

don't stay there

and that's why i say in our satsangs we

don't dwell on it at all

it is we go beyond this and i don't

think many people understand this thing

but you see in the description it is

written the path of knowledge and the

occult path and

astral projection and the mind and the

and the laws of the mind and

consciousness scientific study of

these all bs isn't it

so advaith is a bridge to go beyond

that's all

that's all it is

in the advaith

it's not true there's nothing to know

anyway this is my experience my

interpretation

you will need to get your own advaith

by that i mean

just kick it out

you will be surprised to see that it

comes back

no matter what

that is how strong this is that is why

it has survived you know

so many

eons so many cycles of the time

we know it is beyond human mind but that

is what we get again and again

and

you don't

need years and years to destroy and

build it up

in my experience it takes 10 minutes

you can do it right now also if you want

and destroy it completely you see i

don't know this is all made of stuff

and then start again from the scratch

look at your experience again is there

an experience yes

can you say no experience no no i cannot

say this

is there an experiencer yes

can you say nobody's experiencing no i

cannot say this no matter how hard i try

the look is there a difference is there

a separation

between the experience and the

experiencer and when you look you will

find mind

look at this there is a mind here

you see everything falls into

same

advaith

which you kicked out

now you can you can come up with many

many assumptions look at this this is

matter

and then that means the mind has taken

another route

now it is going to be get lost in the

matter forever that's why we say maya

as soon as the mind assumes something is

gone it's lost

there's no hope of coming back from

there

and you say look this is the jiva

there are heavens and there there is

evolution of the mind and so on

and then it has taken another path

it will be lost there forever in the

many many many

layers of the universal mind they're

infinite

why it is infinite because it it cooks

up something as soon as

it wants

there's no end to that

you're gone there you're lost there

now

if these assumptions are absent and you

have taken the path of the four valid

means of knowledge that four well it

means that i just described

you will arrive at advaith

if you take something else

you will be deluded the imagination will

take you into many many delusions that

look rock solid and true

this is the

characteristic of maya that it looks

true

that's why

this is a kind of purification of this

delusion

but never assume that it is right

never assume that this is true

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that is another delusion

so everybody should do this kind of

exercise

and then the ordinary becomes

extraordinary the ordinary spiritual

there is no expectation now

nothing needs to be done