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if they want to say it
bhartib is saying after realization some
people go back in the world and some
stay in aloneness does such choices
happen as per the nature of body ego
structure what is the criteria to make
this choice you see there is nobody to
make a choice first of all it happens if
there is unfinished business or there
are you know like we say desires pending
desires then they go back in the world
and
the rest they withdraw from the world
because there's nothing more to do and
whatever can be done if it can be done
while staying out of the world they do
it
as soon as your desires start
disappearing you will find that you are
withdrawing from the world it is very
natural it does not mean that you live
in a jungle somewhere it means that you
are in the city but totally
disinterested in worldly affairs and
people don't want them and you are busy
doing something which you like which is
mostly of spiritual
nature so totally depends on the
mountain of desires
the place the actual place where you
live is not so important it happens in
the mind nature our nature decides
whether we are interested in the world
or not not the place see i'll recommend
choose a place which is comfortable
comfortable surprising what about the
family
we give home red remedies to family
members yes no problem you can do
you know do whatever it takes to cure
the disease if it does not go up no no
issues then you see you need to then go
through it and
you are suffering your own karmic
baggage there so no problem but you keep
trying to remediate
and if it does not go away and you are a
spiritual practitioner go to your guru
probably the guru will find out the real
cause that you need to forgive this and
that person and that you know that is
why there are so many people who are
looking for the past life experiences
let me find out what happened with me
because i have this disease or you know
i have this um
relationship problem or something they
want to know
but
it is possible to fix it without knowing
too much about your past so we keep
trying we try to keep the fix the
karmic issues also there's no harm in
that if it is done
nicely if it is resolved untangled no
problem
what is the problem that
do not make it more tangled do not make
it more complicated using these same
practices you see
mary's asking how desires can disappear
naturally however desires are the force
of life just like i say most of the time
you see there are three ways to handle
the desires you fulfill them you
suppress them or you become aware of
them let them come and go desires are
always
fulfilled naturally only there is no
artificial way to fulfill them you see
if the desire is there and the means to
satisfy the desire are there
there and then it simply happens and
then we say okay the desire was
fulfilled naturally what happens is
the ego is not satisfied with this
natural mechanism
whatever appears in the mind it must
fulfill that and that makes its life
hell that runs after it no we cannot do
that
we can do some effort yes without effort
you see i call it a symbolic effort you
should do something for it so but
if the effort is failing again and again
it stop it
it's time to fulfill some other desire
it's not happening naturally so that
does not mean that it was suppressed it
means it was seen and then you let go of
the desire it will it will be fulfilled
but not now it is almost certain hundred
percent certain that the desire has
appeared so it will be fulfilled but not
now when nobody knows
so you fulfill that for which you are
cubed you do that which is available you
do the next thing which appears
do not acquire more desires
first let go of
first fulfill the old ones finish off
only if it is very necessary you should
take up something new otherwise not let
go
the desire appears that look my neighbor
is doing this thing i should also do
that thing no there is no need there is
no need what your neighbor is doing is a
neighbor's business
it's not your don't take that karma on
you you look at your own
desires look at your own life goal and
satisfy them first
so sometimes these desires are imposed
by your family or your society like you
are a good singer you want to become a
singer and then your family says parents
say that no you need to become a doctor
or mba whatever it is you see then
why because more money there they want
money i don't know they want money or
they are afraid of being poor or
something
so
these desires are imposed on you you
should become this you should do this
you should achieve this and the innocent
child has no
ability no discernment no vivek simply
takes it then you can see his life is
now suffering only because he has taken
somebody else's
job not his own so this concept is
very well explained by krishna he says
swadharma your own your own life goal is
your is most important as soon as you
take up something
which is enforced on you which is given
to you somebody else's your life will
become suffering
so i say it like this that do that
which you love most and do that which is
most needed
there are people who keep asking this
question you know what should i do with
my life you know i have everything now
but no satisfaction and all
there is no satisfaction in your life
because you're doing things which are
imposed on you by the parents or the
society
it is not of you you're not born to do
that once the survival is taken care of
you should do that for which you're born
explore the desire explore your desire
and fulfill it you will find that that
which is your desire you will be given
all the means to fulfill it that which
is not yours which is borrowed lot of
problems will be there lot of problems
look at all the failed marriages they
are imposed on you the arranged
marriages they are imposed on you they
all fail this suffering only it was not
your desire to spend your life with a
stranger whom you do not like to become
a machine for producing children that
was not your desire when you appeared
here in the world
so
it is
kind of
unfortunate that we have lost the
swadharm we don't do that for which we
are born and we are we are accumulating
garbage here instead of uh
burning our car mcseeds
burning the car next i mean fulfilling
the desires and they are not much we are
not born with much
there are two or three things in the
human life is enough to complete them
but then we get entangled here we take
more
than we bought brought here we carry
more we do we do the shopping desire
shopping here when we go back in the
causal state much more is there now not
less and so you will find your life is a
burden now
if you're not feeling light and you're
not feeling free and happy that means
you're accumulating you're not letting
go
so
find your swa dharma and teleki find it
do some
churning oh this is my desire i'm born
to do this and check whether you
accumulated it from somebody or not you
saw it on tv or what you read a book and
got influenced then it is not yours it
is an influence outside influence only
do that which you like most which you
absolutely love to do that is your goal
that is your life goal so for a
spiritual seeker it is very easy you see
they are born with a little bit of
awareness they know exactly what to do
like i remember about myself i probably
did not know what to do but i knew what
not to do that was crystal clear in my
mind even when i was a child so
spiritual seekers have this advantage
over the ordinary people that we know
what to do or at least we know what not
to do
we seek seek we find guru and then we
find our goal with what that is what i
call the path of your heart
for a spiritual seeker it is a spiritual
path how do you know that you are on the
right path your freedom and happiness
will go on increasing
if what is increasing is your bondage
and suffering no no something is really
wrong so probably i said too much about
this
amit is saying why i realize people
often anecdotally at least appear to
suffer physically towards the end of
their lives evolutionary speaking they
are at epitome of their accent so they
should have few karmic depth spending
and he has given some example so yes you
see you are in a human body what is the
reason there is some issue there there
is some something which you must return
so diseases and they are your ticket out
of the human world you see whatever you
call
the terminal diseases which kill you see
i'm not talking about the
cold and cough and a little bit of fever
here no or the accident you know
breaking a bones or cuts and injuries no
no i'm not saying they are the they are
because they are the tickets no the
terminal things which which happen in
the old age when you have lived your
life completely
they are our tickets out of the world
out of the suns are
so it will happen to every human body
why there is some sometimes it is
horrible because they hold on to the
body
they hold on to the body
i know ordinary person ordinary people
they hold on to the body they don't want
to let go of it keep treating it even if
they know that i'm going to die okay six
more months i'm going to spend six
millions you know to get that six months
useless
and now it is um kind of
surprising that even these great masters
they're are holding onto the body and i
think the only reason is that they want
to serve more like they can drop the
body today also but they keep going in
spite of the disease that has appeared
in the body the disease is nothing it's
natural you know decay of the body
old age is a disease itself they say but
the body is breaking down so it will
cause problems
so at that point they can let go of it
okay they will say that
the body is you know kind of
um
expiry date it has crossed the expiry
date
so but they keep going why because they
say that okay i live for five years i
can serve 500 more people i can
enlighten 500 more and they keep going
till it becomes
so much that they cannot work
probably probably that is the um
reason because i know i i will never do
that
it's not it's not worth but these people
are saintly people and sometimes they
have the order from the above like if i
get an order from the above no you
cannot go now no sir i had this body is
a problem
and they will say okay we'll fix the
body but you stay there then at some
point they will say no we cannot fix the
body now but you stay there for two more
years and
you know it is sometimes like a mission
to stay here sometimes it's a mission to
come back here that is what i call the
bodhisattva tendencies
so we can explain these things like this
or it can be in a complete completely
the opposite that then whomever you
thought is a very realized master has
some ignorance there has some attachment
or the old age has taken away the
awareness because it was cultivated
in an artificial way it was forced
through the practices now the pranic
energy has moved and they are back in
total darkness now they're clinging to
the body it can happen it can happen on
any path that can happen
on
the path of knowledge also that is why i
don't give you any instruments to keep
up the awareness the only instrument
that you have is your own mind that's
what i say keep up the awareness and
these things will never happen
okay so out of probably thousand
enlightened masters you know 10 or 20
have died like this horrible death who
cares most of them they lived happily
and they died whenever
the time was right some of them have
knowingly done that
okay ryan is saying can the desires play
out in the dreams and seasonally during
sleep to fully extinguish desires
because i am constantly dreaming vividly
of things i've always wanted to do a
long time ago and now i get a little
deep sleep
according to my fit
bit watch reports i just want to know if
my dreams will stop being so
interruptive to my sleep when my desires
are fulfilled
well
if you are not suffering
a lack of sleep if your body is healthy
and fit
then
you need not interfere in what is
happening because dreams are a way to
fulfill okay his nuts up suffering okay
yes the dreams are a way to fulfill the
bizarre and when
they find
you find some awareness there then you
will find the increase
the dreams are more probably some some
people have opposite effect the dreams
reduce but if there are desires then yes
the mind finds a way to express them
keep keeps expressing them
so if you do it with full awareness in
the dream probably it will go away
probably it will be extinguished and
don't worry it's not going to stiff
forever it's a phase
it will come and go so the only time you
need to worry is that
your health is going down because
all the time you are doing something
instead of sleeping you see dream means
you are sleeping isn't it dream means
that the body is in a state of rest if
you are woken up too much during
dreaming what has happened is you have a
problem with letting go
your
mind is alarmed every time you become
aware in the dream your mind is alarmed
oh what is happening what is happening
and breaks the sleep now if that is
happening then there is a solution for
that let go reprogram your mind that oh
everything is okay here there's no need
to be alarmed here in the dream i got up
in the dream now i need to get up i need
to get out of this dream world
don't do that accept the dream world you
know engage in that forget the body here
it's it's peacefully sleeping don't
interrupt the sleep
probably there is a little bit of
anxiety probably it is very new
experience for you so it's an alarming
situation for the mind and it looks like
i'm not sleeping it looks like light
sleep but
and if if it accidents your sleeping
time by one or two hour no problem you
see no problem the mind adapts to the
new situation and then it will become
normal so that is my suggestion for ryan
that
let go let go
become normal accept the dream state
it's happening again you say and
the wish fulfillment the desire
fulfillment will continue in the dream
that is what is happening anyway now it
will happen in complete awareness
so if you find that your desires are
decreasing in the
waking state
that means it is working if you find
that no they and all the desires are as
strong as they are in the waking state
then you should inform me
iran is saying i am becoming more and
more aware each night because the memory
bridge is getting stronger yes hopefully
that is a good thing for you and this
this is there
yes it is just
it is the fruit of your practice as you
see probably you are doing the practices
in the stage number four
and this the consequence this is the
effect of these so don't worry you know
you will get used to the new state of
the mind where it is aware continuously
in the waking and dreaming if if it has
negative impact then you need to tell me
otherwise it's good it's nice you're
progressing you need to
check the warnings that i give in the
videos check the warnings probably write
them down you see become
aware of the warnings if
if something like that is happening then
you need to inform me otherwise
it's very natural
the memory bridge formation is very
natural
so
the mind does not really know that it is
fulfilling the desires in the waking or
dreaming because they become same the
dream is as real as the waking
so
you should see a decrease in the number
of desires which means there will be
more peace more happiness
more bliss nothing to do in the waking
state you see
and then i recommend that if you find
that i'm not able to get a lot of sleep
the mind is going to complain although
it is sleeping you see all the body
sleeps nicely because it's not like the
old sleep is going to say no no there is
no sleep and you try to try sleeping in
the daytime take out one or two hours in
the daytime sleep in the daytime after
your lunch or something where
in the downtime when you don't want to
work sleep for a while that is the
solution
so ryan is saying
it's funny because two months ago i was
wanting this to happen very much now
it's happening without me being aware
very good very good i i'll suggest that
you keep going do not stop
it was a nice
satsang and i hope everybody enjoyed it
everybody got their answers
and
hopefully you are enjoying the program
also and i'll meet you next time thank
you very much for attending the meeting
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