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hello and welcome to pure experiences
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opportunity for all of us to meet and
discuss the spiritual matters
and also
answer
some of your questions clear your doubts
and
discuss
whatever is important for you issues
related to your practices and all and we
also discuss
the
activities of the program here so if
anybody has any question most welcome to
write write it down or they can say it
if they want to see it
okay we pin is saying thinking on
irreducibles time and space only exist
when we access experiences scanning
through local memory but
there can be experiences from np and m
um also and local memory is a part of
him hence
all experiences are experiences of
memory
do such experiences in which there is no
consciousness of time and space or
irreducibles can you say such
experiences are pure experiences
and this state is oneness as even
illusion of memory falls between
experience and experience
actually all of your experiences are
without time and space you should not
use these words like no consciousness of
time and space that is a meaningless
sentence you can say that there is no
concept of time and space so all of your
experiences are like this only the time
and space is then generated out of the
experience
all the experiences are timeless
spaceless
and they are irreducible yes experiences
appear as irreducibles
so hopefully that is clear all your
experiences are already timeless and
spaceless
look at your experience now
then there there is abstraction of time
and space
time and space they are created from the
memory so what he is probably thinking
is that there is time and space and then
we lose track of it and whatever appears
then is a pure experience or something
no no no that is wrong understanding
this assumption will lead you to the
wrong path first is the experience that
is the primary then comes all these
concepts whether it is happening in time
or whether it is happening in space and
of what it is is it of irreducible and
you see pure experience is only name
given to an experience
which is not encumbered by ignorance
look at the ignorant people they are
also having experiences yes i mean they
will also report the experiences they
are instruments that report the
experience but encumbered burdened with
ignorance the description of the same
thing which you are experiencing is
totally wrong that is the difference
between ordinary person and
somebody who has the knowledge
so if you look at things as they are
then
i call it the pure experience it is
purified of ignorance and as you know it
has no knowledge in it the pure
experience has no knowledge in it
whatever is is
is-ness
why because you know there is no
knowledge
when you empty yourself of the ignorance
whatever is left is knowledge and
whatever is left is actually nothing but
a pure experience
it's a state of being that is what we
call as awareness
be aware when i say be aware that means
drop the ignorance and look at things as
they are let things happen do not
intervene whatever happens happens
use of the body use of the intellect
happens use of the emotions and memories
happens so go back to this
state
look and then you will find that well
first is experience and then other
thoughts they appear they come in the
mind
so definition of irreducible is not
that experience which is
which is where there is no space in time
and things like that no
the definition of irreducible is
something else
there is no difference between
irreducible and experience
when i say the experience is always of
the irreducible that means it is the
existence itself cannot reduce it down
to something else now so when i say
chair no it's not a chair when i say
metal wood plastic no it's nothing like
this what are they they are shapes and
colors that is the definition of the
irreducible the concepts when you remove
the concepts out of what your experience
is
you are redu you are left with the
irreducible that is the definition
we have names for them and
you can drop the names also and then
you're left with the pure experience
so i don't know why you said that about
the memory local memory and all you see
there is some confusion in his mind
clear the confusion start from the
beginning by that i don't mean to start
listening to everything from the
beginning start from the experience look
and note down
okay number two infinite layered
architectures in universal memory
is that related to 84 lakh unis concept
no we don't have any 84 lakh unis
concept here on the path of knowledge
because if i say that number you're
going to ask me how did you count it you
see path of knowledge is evidence-based
we read evidence for any everything
so we don't have any evidence i never
counted it so i never say it and no
valid architecture has nothing to do
with the kind of birth
no
this layered structure is found in
everything the memory is arranged like
this in layered way
like you said universal memory the whole
universe is a layered memory structure
now
it has nothing to do with
organisms or the yoni's
i don't know what will be it called in
english anybody has idea yoni's actually
there is no name for it in english it's
amazing
boom
yes
boom it has nothing to do with the kind
of womb
and who is who has counted this who
knows
we don't know it simply appears in some
of the scriptures and people have
accepted it without any critical thought
i'll tell you my opinion if you want
there are infinite yoni's infinite
possibilities infinite kind of wombs you
can even say that the yonis is a species
but you see the species are not only the
biological one that appear
on earth
the existence is choke full of entities
there is no space there actually
in existence
is so dense there is no space it is full
of these things
objects and
different of different
complexities what are living things they
are simply complex objects taxation is
full of infinite variety of these so how
many wombs infinite
and they are produced on demand like the
species appear whenever there is a need
who who has fixed it to only 84 lakh
that is wrong isn't it how can you fix
it then how can this soul you know
mechanically go through these 84 lakhs
and then emerge into who knows what we
can celebrate it must go through all of
them no it's not the rule so only an
ancient concept in the on the path of
knowledge we discard all these things
there's no evidence for that
right now you are in the human uni human
womb do you need to go through all the
few more million
wombs to get liberated no who who is
there who has the time to count all
these things infinite variety already
and
the second possibility is also there
that you can go through as many as you
want
new ones get created on demand probably
bored of the 84 lakh and so you say okay
i want them next one now and that will
be created for you it is all illusion
you can create anything the one who has
created 84 lakh will create another 84
lakh for you if you want so these
i'll ask weapon to drop the old and drop
the old that is garbage
clean your slate if it is not told it is
not there
it is not told in the program our path
of knowledge program it is not there
you will never find an evidence
you will find only stories what is told
in the program the layered architecture
yes lot of evidence for that you are one
as a human you are a layered
architecture you are in the universal
memory there's a direct evidence of that
okay saying i asked only drop the old
concepts very good everybody is
invited to
examine their concepts in the light of
knowledge the knowledge comes from
direct experience
and logic and then drop it you don't
even need to ask me is there an evidence
no
drop it
you will say then how i learn you learn
by experience only you don't learn by
forming and holding the concepts which
are told by others for example i tell
you look there is this greater mind now
it's a concept only how are you going to
learn about it because i said it it has
become your knowledge no you should ask
me about you should ask me for an
evidence then i'll point to your
experience
look at whatever is surrounding you the
trees the mountains the rivers the
waterfalls
birds
i say look at that that is the evidence
of the greater memory
now probably you will not believe me and
that's why there is this program it is
systematically shown how these things
are all the layers are shown there are
hidden layers here which because we are
in limited state right now the waking
state is very limited designed for
survival only so i tell you how to get
the experience of those hidden or
structures
layers which do not appear in the waking
state which are hidden they are there
but they are hidden so
eventually you learn from your
experience as the experience grows you
you keep getting more and more evidence
of these things
so the day you get the evidence for 84
lakh yonis
that will be your truth so far i've
found that there is no limit in the
illusion you cannot put numbers there no
it's not possible
there are you know some very funny
concepts like this the age of the
universe is this and the age of that is
this then the baha relay happens after
this and then there are very precise
numbers for that i don't know how they
calculate it i mean if you calculate
something you should put the derivation
there no you will never find the
derivation there is only one
you can say verse in the old old
scripture that will just simply declare
that the age of this universe is this
and
we have no way to tell that is not
science you see science means you should
provide proof evidence
we know that it is cyclic we don't need
proof for that it's self-evident it is
cyclic but
then you provide a precise number
now that is not science if you don't
provide the derivation not science so i
have discarded all these concepts
completely miran is saying there has to
be a peer review yes
who has reviewed 84 yoni's 84 lakh unis
nobody
but you can say there are eunesias there
are wombs but don't put the number there
and
what is the use of the number you see
what do i say if you find yourself stuck
in the uni get out of there liberate
yourself you see when i say the goal of
the human life is to get rid of the
human life human existence which means a
cyclic existence
repeating repeating repeating suffering
we don't count anything there we do not
count how many times we repeated
nothing get rid of it get rid of all the
unis it can be done instantly
awareness is the key awareness has the
power it's probably stretching this
too much
it was a nice
satsang and i hope everybody enjoyed it
everybody got their answers
and
hopefully you are enjoying the program
also and i'll meet you next time thank
you very much for attending the meeting
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