Body: Exploration, Inner Senses, Diagnosis, Healing, Intention, Medicine

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parthip is saying yogis explode

knowledge of body from within i think

they paid extreme attention to it they

found deeper structure to experience a

body

in some texts it is told that yogis can

perceive inner detail somebody this

knowledge is useful in many ways for why

they couldn't

stop in emptiness the essence of

experiencer essence of experiences and

created such elaborate system

so when you reach the emptiness it is

boring there's nothing to do in the

emptiness it is a lot of bliss pleasure

you can stay in that state forever but

there are people who who have the energy

to do to find to explore there are all

kinds of people isn't it some people

they cannot sit in a cave in emptiness

how much can you dwell on hampton what

what is there to think about the

emptiness what is there to explore in

the emptiness it's emptiness so once you

realize this there's nothing else to do

but to explore whatever there is so they

did the exploration

so there are ways to explore things you

know your five senses grass senses

are the primary it's the primary way

they're extremely limited and so the the

instruments they can augment the senses

like you can study the body using using

the x-rays mri or you can cut it

you cut the body dead body and then that

is the primary senses only how to study

the living body you fortunately have a

living body hopefully

and then

you just

use the internal senses in the body to

study it

there are many internal senses as you

know the sense pyramid thing and the

five senses don't give you that much

knowledge but the internal senses give

you more knowledge because they're more

in number

that is how we know that we are alive we

are human because of the internal senses

so you will get more knowledge that way

somehow that is lost now that art is

lost people rely too much on their

five senses physical senses only that is

called the physical science

there is a science of the body

which relies on the internal senses plus

the external obviously more on internal

that is how they could find the nadis

and all these things the meridian system

based on the sensations coming from the

internal senses by internal i don't mean

non-physical they are physical only but

the modern science has nothing like this

you see because it has not developed and

probably it hasn't deteriorated it has

decayed since it was discovered there is

not much progress except probably in the

eastern countries like china and vietnam

and all this place they are like there

are experts there in india also we have

nadi system and all this brand mykosh

the pranic view of the body

probably everybody knows the five main

energies five main wings in the body but

beyond that nobody has much

experience there are books yes but

it is not not being put in practice

so

there is one more way to know the body

and that is the non-physical senses

from where these all these systems and

traditions of healing become

and unfortunately that is also has

not developed so much like you we'd

never say that it is mainstream what is

mainstream is the grass way the lowest

possible way is the mainstream

there has to be recent government

the reason is ignorance

99.99

people are ignorant of these things you

go to a doctor and you you tell him that

i saw that there is something in my body

from my non-physical senses he is going

to laugh at you but there are people who

have the non-physical senses and they

can diagnose

your body

sometimes by touching it sometimes

simply looking at it

sometimes only through a photo send them

a photo and they know what is there in

photo nothing the photo is only way to

connect to the universal memory where

there is your body you see where is your

body in the universal memory not on

earth

that is old that is faulty view your

body is always a memory in the universal

mind

now

it is possible to connect to it

use your non-physical subtle senses or

whatever they're called you know i i did

not bother to name all of them there are

and there are so many just like i said

there is no limit

if you want it it will be created for

you so that is called the remote

diagnosis or remote healing or whatever

you use and then you use the power of

intention to heal it that is another

thing you see

diagnosis is one thing and then cure is

other thing

so as you go higher on the sense pyramid

you will find that the

study of the body changes

and

the diagnosis of the diseases of the

body or any abnormality there changes

ways to diagnose change sometimes you

know if if you are only a based on the

internal senses or things like that then

you may need to touch the body or you

you may need to be physically present

there to get the feel of it or something

but as you go higher in the sense

pyramid you don't need to present

sometimes a name is enough sometimes the

photo is enough sometimes piece of hair

they used to send a like piece of hair

to the doctor old days he used to just

look at the hair so there is nothing in

here it is only an index to the memory

like we say in software record number

this this that is what the hair is

telling them and then the

knowledge appears of that memory and it

appears with all the

faults in that body it is possible

so why can't i do it why can't anybody

do it they never tried this skill is

never developed nobody teaches you

there are teachers who teach these

things i i know the healing and all this

very popular but

it has not become mainstream because it

requires

a lot of intellectual development and

spiritual development you see

you know

if

you cannot use your internal senses or

the non-physical senses or any more

senses

what does that mean spiritually

underdeveloped and developed so as you

you progress

in your spiritual path you will get all

these so-called abilities

they are not abilities they're just your

natural ability they're not magical

abilities so as you progress

you will be able to use all these senses

you will be able to diagnose and then if

you develop your intention spiritual

intention you will be able to

heal so that day i was talking about the

ayurveda in the poor state of ayurveda

in india

and

in the world and i told you that the

doctor has to be of some kind of

spiritual attainment otherwise he won't

be able to treat you the herbs

they are limited help very limited you

see the modern medicine is just horrible

things

just you know they have extracted the

active component from whatever is

already available in nature and when you

produce synthetic medicine that is a

copy of the natural so hacking that is

what i call hagged into this old system

they made it useful

and the old system well degraded

completely lost because it needs

spiritual attainment it needs

you know the doctor needs to learn the

use of the internal senses the

empathetic sense

sympathetic whatever it's called and

proper diagnosis

there has to be a lot of training there

natural talent and that is not found

what do they do they read books

by reading the book you become a

bookworm you don't become a doctor

it is hands-on practice you need a guru

you need spiritual attainment for that

you need a spiritual path you need the

then you get this

quality you are there

expertise

to heal people

how many are there there are probably

many most of them are fake because it

gives them money they fake it i don't

know what happens to the patients you

know the patients are also stupid

sometimes okay

is one such as riki is a beautiful

system you see now how many fakes are

there enrique lots of them who has the

real reiki with the spiritual attainment

you see

those who are serious about their

spiritual practice read a book on reiki

or do the seven day course on reiki you

know whatever level when living well

garbage some people have a natural

ability probably you know sometimes we

say the past life abilities they can do

it without training these are exceptions

like there are children they can play

music or they can sing

at the age of three years or four years

also missing better than your so-called

pop singers

so

how do how do they have this ability

something was downloaded from their

previous memories abilities there born

with that

some people are born with healing

abilities and that is suppressed not

explored in our society these things are

suppressed what is encouraged

live like an animal eat like an animal

and obey your garment like sheep that is

encouraged it's a

very bad condition here

amit is saying hat yoga nats and prada i

proclaimed to have established science

to manipulate the pranas kapalbhati and

a much more sophisticated framework than

a ray chakra based pranam

patanjali see there are many systems

many systems and

which one works which one is the best

you will need to experience it yourself

you will need to do it yourself to find

that out whatever you are talking about

is mostly the kundalini stuff so yes it

seems that the kundalini people have

kind of discarded the non-essential from

the patanjali

and concentrated mostly on indirect

manipulation like the active ingredient

i was talking about they took the active

indi ingredient out of the pranayama

ashtang and they have developed it

further so yes i think amit is right

you see you bypass the system and then

it becomes risky you bypass the

purification process that is

the essence of the patanjali yoga and

now it becomes risky because you see

impure body and mind they start doing

kapalbhati and all this and they suffer

forever whole life is suffering

some

some manipulation happen in the energies

and now they're imbalanced or something

has gone wrong there so there are risks

of these things patanjali is foolproof

if you do it under a guru then the risk

is not there

do we really need all these things no

the path of knowledge bypasses all these

things that is the only path that i

found where you get all the abilities

without doing anything

how is that possible we have these

abilities naturally

like you don't need to

you know inject a child with some

medicine or some drug to make him walk

and talk no the child learns

and there's a natural ability there you

don't need to treat the child so that he

gets the abilities no yoga practices for

the child he gets this

natural ability to walk and talk so

it is

we have national abilities like that

don't need practices

supartib is saying your guru diagnosed

you also upon kundalini practices or

activation is it the same

diagnosed by non-physical senses no

in kundalini practice unfortunately no

evaluation happens they give it to

everybody and then they hope that they

will manage somehow which is not correct

according to me so no diagnosis

no no evaluation it was simply given and

then you see it fails like this

satisfying i understood that intention

is the basic requirement nothing works

without intention yes when i talk about

intention i talk about the tantra path

the open path

on the path of knowledge you make use of

it but no we don't

utilize it for spiritual progress we

utilize knowledge but yes intention is

the basic requirement

nothing moves you cannot even get up in

the morning if there is no intention to

get up but we are we don't talk about

that kind of intention

we we say spiritual intention yes he is

saying in

healing also yes we

we say it is the spiritual intention

if you if you cannot hold that kind of

intention

no

no healing is possible how long should

we hold it

as long as it is required

do these practitioners the healers they

hold it no probably they don't even know

it you will need to be constantly

thinking about the patient and who has

the time for that probably they get 10

patients per day and then who has the

time to hold intention for everybody no

nobody so the there are healing circles

and healing groups and what do they do

they sit and

simply hold the intention for the

patient does it work i don't know

i don't know because the healing group

has hardly any spiritual attainment

you know the somebody who has a

spiritual attainment will never do these

things because those who have understood

the karmic consequences of it they don't

do it those who have attachment with the

body and the world they want to do it

but as you progress you see that their

toys

don't play with the toys now so that is

why on the path of knowledge there is no

abilities are not encouraged yes it has

a lot of consequences you meddle with

the maya and there is consequence

sometimes i say you do it as a

profession that is much better than

simply meddling here do it as a

profession the maya never says they do

not heal patients no what is my saying

that you are

letting

your spiritual progress stop because you

have you had you have an ability you see

the siddhis become an obstacle like they

say so your progress is stopped and then

you get the consequences

so what do i say you don't have any

means of earning money you use your

ability nobody's stopping charge money

for it do not meddle simply because you

have the ability

when you charge money for it you say

that i am doing it for my body i'm

serving my body my body needs food i

need money to buy the food and that's

why i'm using it

now you can be excused for that

you're doing it for display you're doing

it to prove that you're superior than

these people now it is a problem

see the there is a dark side of this

thing that you can heal people yes but

with the same intention you can harm

people it is possible that is the dark

side of the occult that is the

left-handed path so

there are there there are problems with

these things you see amit is saying

commercial outlook messes up or at the

very least severe limits efficacy of

freaky healers ayurvedic doctors and at

you yes money has corrupted everything

so

they see that patients have blind faith

in such doctors and they then misuse

them because the patient has lost the

ability to think why because totally

frustrated with the disease pain nobody

wants pain and they go irrational

they are ready to try anything to get

rid of the pain you know

nobody

nobody bothers about logical thinking at

that point oh he cures okay i'll go

there and the charge this much money

okay i'm going to take that risk there

is a chance in a 50 50 chance or 60 40

chance

so they go and they try it

so these healers they survive on these

miserable people

there is

this is kind of a lot of karmic issues

here isn't it a lot of stuff here so i

don't think there are any ethical

guidelines or anything for these things

what's going on

ryan is saying charging money also

releases karmic bond as well yes

you see

it can form a bond or it can release a

bond depending on your intention like i

said you are taking the money to support

your body support your life physical

life biological life and then it is

kind of okay in my view at least there

can be views here there can be opinions

here

it is called use it is it will not be

called misuse so you sit there

in your office you say look this there

is this much chance that i'll hold an

intention for you i'll diagnose you and

this is the chance

25 chance that you will be healed and i

charge this much for this service just

like any other doctor you see the doctor

also knows the medicine has a let's say

thirty percent chance to heal you and he

says okay come back after seven days and

tell me what happened and the medicine

did not work he gives you different

medicine

so something like this and it becomes

your profession but what people do is

for name fame and whatever

manipulate people

they use these things if you if it is

not your profession do not do it it's as

simple as that

meera is asking when we use medication

for our diseases we are

interfering karmic cycle no it's okay to

take meditations i'm sorry medication

medicines

if it is because of the karmic issues

then it will reappear the disease will

reappear

that is what is seen medicines fail

these healings they fail if it is the

karmic issue if it is reappearing again

and again and again even the healers

they give up they say no it is a karmic

issue you cannot do it now you need to

go through it

so yes you can treat it try to treat it

it keeps reappearing which it means

there is something else

what happens is if if you are powerful

enough to simply clear it that means you

have taken some of the karmic stuff

yourself

that is not recommended

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