Instant Enlightenment, Music and Oneness

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does enlightenment happen in a moment

or is it a practice

that happens gradually you must have

seen many people they are doing some

practice to get enlightened

or for self-realization

so what kind of practice will

make you self-realized

or what will enlighten you what kind of

actions

will enlighten you and keep you

enlightened so this is a very common

question

and it is totally a result of

no guidance because the person has never

met any guru

the person has never met any teacher

and he has probably seen some people who

are enlightened or whatever probably he

has heard somewhere that

you need to get enlightened and then

the mind starts

planning

it's enlightenment

and therefore this question comes what

should i need what should i do what do i

need to do

to get enlightened

or whatever this state is

and

how to achieve it

and then

how to remain there

and what is the technique to

achieve that

this points to a wrong path

the person has taken a wrong path

so is it gradual no it doesn't take time

no

is it

based on a technique no

so if

self-realization is the realization

of the true nature of what we are

then

it logically follows that what we are

are that right now also

the true nature is present right now

also

so will the true nature appear gradually

will it start building up somewhere

that's not true nature if it needs to be

brought

from

somewhere if it is a product of a

practice

if it is a product of a technique it

cannot be

the true nature because that would imply

that it is absent right now

and if it is absent right now then what

is your true nature

right now

so it is

not possible

and the

true nature is always here

it does not happen gradually

if it is being realized gradually then

probably you are realizing something

else not your true nature because the

true nature does not

happen in

stages there is no stage number one of

true nature and then tomorrow you will

get the next dose and then after one

year

other dose and finally

the true nature is complete

it is not like this

it has to be

right now right here

so what is enlightenment and what is the

realization of truth this true nature

why i don't know it

these are the questions coming from a

mind a confused mind

which needs a little bit of pointing out

that's all the true nature cannot be

pointed out

that is another trouble

because it would be very easy if

their guru or somebody else or some i

could even write a book you know do this

and this and this

go here sit there and look in this

direction and look inside are all

and no it is not possible to do that

true nature cannot be pointed out

what what can you do

is to point out the false nature

that is all

and the false nature is pointed out

and then when this

ignorance about what i am not

is removed

then the true nature is revealed

and it should not take more than two

minutes to to reveal it

what do we do and we have in advaith we

have this very effective methods called

self inquiry

or progressive

discarding

of what you are not

remember that the guru will not show you

your true nature never

he will show you only that which you

assume is your true nature

some people don't even assume they are

totally blank

so this is a good place to start i don't

know what is my true nature

that means you are already there 50

percent

you're already on the edge the guru will

give a push and you'll fall into the

true nature

but it becomes a little bit

of trouble if

you have assumptions if you have blind

beliefs of all kinds like my true nature

is this body

this pile of matter is me

this is the only true truth

about

me

and this means

a lot of work will be needed to destroy

the superstition that i am the body

and this is

actually possible it is very brutal

it can be done

in few seconds

but the real problem is when people

assume

something which is non-physical as their

true nature

now good luck removing that belief

because you can very clearly see

the truth of the body

but

if something is in the mind

then it becomes a psychological

procedure to remove it

it is

kind of difficult

because of the assumptions then it is

totally depends on the skill of the guru

the guru needs to be very skillful here

the guru needs to see into the mind

and then

find out

what are the real assumptions and why

the assumptions are there

and then on the spot

the teacher will

fabricate a method

a made up method

some solution upay

to

cut

that ignorance down

it is complicated

that's why

you need a guru

if you had no assumptions at all

you would see it in one second

a mind is very active highly

intellectual mind humans

and therefore

it is

it is engaged in only that

which can be put into language

symbols of some kind

so

i was recently listening to some music

and i saw something strange which

everybody

must have seen when they are engrossed

in music

the mind

is gone

when you are in the music you see when

you are engrossed in the music

the mind is absent

the symbols the language gone

and there is nothing for the mind to

hold there nothing there to hold

and there is this pure experience

of sound

is there any difference between the

experience and experiencer

when there is music well the ego is gone

the body is gone

thoughts are gone there is just the

music

which is also the witness of the music

it is very beautiful

it is only forgetting of the mind

what remains is the union of the

experience of the music

and the experiencing of the music

so you will find this in the faces of

the people who are listening to the

melodious music

they forget everything even the eyes are

closed

and

just like a statue of buddha in their

face can be seen in bliss

people say i'm not happy

see

it is because there is a constant

whip lash

of desires constantly they are in the

waking state

and this

ignorance

people are engrossed you know this

ignorance

uh

they are in the clutches of

this mental activity

now there is no problem in mental

activities most natural thing

what happened is this is negative kind

of activity it produces

uneasiness anxiety stress suffering

pain and that is the problem isn't it

otherwise the mind is

a machine it is doing whatever it does

so

and the mind is the cause of the

ignorance otherwise our true nature is

present here and now

people try to do the patchwork of fixing

the mind let me fix the mind it's too

noisy it is too

troublesome it is too negative it is a

criminal mind no mad mind

well

it is because of

past

experiences your past actions because it

has become like this

so

that is not

self-realization

that is

surgery on the mind

what is self-realization

when this thing is absent

gone temporarily or permanently or

whatever

and

you are the music

when the experience is the experience

that is bliss

why don't i have it every day every time

and this is this is another ignorance

isn't it

just like when the music was present

you were present as music isn't it now

it makes no sense to call the experience

and the experiencer it is all one you

are one with the music

so are you all the time

one with the mind

just remove music put mind there put

your thoughts and actions and feelings

sensations

emotions this is the music the internal

music of the mind

are you not there as your mind right now

right here

you are there right now right here as my

voice

this voice is not my voice it's not

coming separately from somewhere

it's

the experiencer itself it is speaking to

itself

did it take time for you to do this

realization was it gradual

was sudden

no the realization is always that i am

always there

my true nature my essence is always

there this is the realization it is

right now right here also

don't think that you know my mind is

like this i forget this and i forget

that

all is happening

as experiencer

all is happening as your true nature

it is tricky isn't it

no amount of practice will give you this

view

no amount of practice

don't do pranayama don't do breathing

don't do this or that asan and

whatever they teach you and

yoga

that is for fixing various things

which you can do if you want this is not

for self-realization

self cannot be realized you see

you can only realize

the

stuff that you assumed

is true

you can only realize your ignorance

i am ignorant

i did not know that these thoughts are

running me

so on

it is so it is simpler than that

actually

just realize that all these

experiences are happening

are just music

in which the experience is completely

involved because it is

the experience

there is nothing more to realize than

this

nothing more to do

no practice will achieve this

when you're cooking

when you're cleaning

and

when you're just

folding your clothes or packing your

stuff

driving and all

just see

that it is the true nature it's always

present

it is doing all these things

it is actually

all the things it is all the experience

all the actions

there is no doer

because the doing and the thing that is

done is one

why is there no doer because it implies

duality is a doer separate from the

doing

have you seen have you seen this no

what is our direct experience the doing

and the done

is one

just like when we are listening to the

music

the listener

and that which is

to which we are listening

is one now momentary

fuse if

i draw your attention to this thing when

you're engrossed in the music

sometimes you will find that this

division happens let's say you are

engrossed in the music and i say um

do you know who composed this song do

you know who composed the music

and suddenly your mind will wake up from

the trance

and your mind will say

it will go search the memory say yes is

this in this and

then the listener is separated from the

music

so this is the activity of the mind it

divides for a while

this goes in memory now this is amazing

isn't it now let me take you

down the memory

why do we have this illusion that we are

separate from everything

it is because of the memory again your

memory is the culprit everywhere

so

this activity of division is recorded in

the memory and when you recall there is

this memory of the music

and the listener

and all the data that is associated with

the music who composed this who sang

this what's the ear it was released and

then your memories of listening it for

the first time with your family in the

cassette recorder and so on

this is knowledge

what i'm calling is data and memory is

knowledge

it is stored in the memory

this gives us an impression that i was

there listening to the music and notice

your direct experience when you are

listening to the music especially

especially the

instrumental music or metal melodious

music which does not evoke your you know

lower

um instincts not very angry music not

very

exciting music but

i find that also sometimes pleasing you

see bhangra is very pleasing and

disco is very pleasing when you are in

that mood and you can be engrossed in

that music also the rhythm also

so what happens when you listen to the

music very soothing music melodious

music

is there this knowledge present

no

so much so that the body will start

moving by itself

you will start tapping

you will start

swinging

with the music

why

because the thought process is absent

because the symbols language is absent

can you enjoy the music while giving it

running commentary on the music like

cricket commentary

that is impossible isn't it it's not

possible to enjoy that kind of music and

the mind needs to go and then the art

takes over

same thing will happen

whenever you look at anything beautiful

the mind stops

when

whether it's a beautiful painting

whether it's a beautiful person or any

any animal

or you are standing in front of a very

beautiful big mountain

covered with snow

same thing will happen sometimes it is

very profound people start crying when

they see something beautiful

it is an experience it is not painful

obviously they are not crying because

something bad has happened

and the

tears are tears of joy why is there joy

there

because for a split second the mind left

them

the experience

became the experiencer

for a second

so our true nature

is here right now right here

it is there when the mind is not present

which which produces very blissful

experience

and it is same experience the experience

of the

yogi

in meditation

is same as experience of

a music lover

when listening to music same as

experience of a

traveler

when the traveler is watching the

natural beauty big big cliffs and rivers

and oceans

same experience

as the lover watching the beautiful face

of his beloved

or a child

his mother

same experience yogi is not doing

anything special you see

you cannot become a yogi you can only

realize that the yoga

is present right now right here

this mind

is the yogi's mind this mind right now

that we have

is already one this realization

will not happen by practice

how much practice it takes

to appreciate something beautiful

we are all born with this appreciation

so the answer to this question is

does enlightenment happen

in a movement or is a gradual process

it should be obvious to you now that

well it is not gradual and it does not

happen in a moment

what happens is

the

relaxation of the mind

and the appearance of blissful existence

consciousness

self as

as if it was always there the timeless

timelessness happens

so those who want to put the whole thing

into time

or making some kind of mistake

i can see why this mistake is there

because this is how our training is

to do something well you you need to put

some effort

and it will it's going to take time and

then you apply this conditioning

this brainwashing

to spiritual realization

it's not going to work

spiritual stuff is totally different

from the worldly stuff

that's why we have this division of

spiritual and material

and that's why most of the time i say

well i don't give any kind of

useful advice here i don't give you any

knowledge

i don't give anything that you can use

and that is very disappointing for the

people oh you mean i'll never achieve

anything i'll never get enlightenment

i'll never

get the self realization

again remember whatever you call it

and

and the answer is no

it's not something to be gotten by

effort time practice

these are different things you see

even the

practices that we do

to fix our minds fix our bodies and so

on

they go into the material domain you

know this side of the margin

not even spiritual

so

sometimes i think it is very

good contrast but

when the spiritual is when you realize

that the material was never there

this is spiritual

isn't it

when you realize the true nature

of everything

disappearance of the ego

disappearance of the separation do you

see do you still see something material

if you do then you need to do the self

inquiry again

you you need to go back to the square

one again

because you failed

to see

the true nature

it is not different from the material

the material and spiritual is there only

when

there is no realization

so spiritual is encompassing the

material this is little bit tricky to

explain because our view is always

dualistic oh this is material thing that

means spiritual it must be absent there

is a spiritual that means the material

must be absent there

this is how the mind thinks you see

what is reality reality is non-dual

this spiritual includes the material it

cannot be anything else

look at it let's go back to the music

again

was there music yes

was there the listener yes

was there any separation no

but still

there was music

and still

the listening was there

so in this is the whole picture

when you hide the parts of the picture

you can say oh there was music and all

i was listening to the music

you can hide some parts of this picture

and say like this

when you the whole picture is revealed

well the music has disappeared into the

listener

so

this is how spiritual things are

they are

strange