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[Music] as we know there is no I there's no
person there is my usual and there is no doer because there is no one to do
anything this is essentially self-realization this is odd because the
disappearance of the separate self the eye is the appearance of the universal
self that money it is still called the self realization because shifting of the
identity realizing no self is self realization that is again a very odd
statement but here the no self means realizing that there is nothing separate
from the whole it is all not to so the self is never found only that which is
assumed as self is destroyed this is the essence of self realization those who
are still looking for the self good luck because cannot be found it is not there
whatever will be assumed as this is the self it will be wrong assumption you
will need to remove all these concepts of what can be resettled and whatever remains will be the real self this is
self realization and it is very funny because nothing remains except the hole and the small narrow view turns into
very big in finite view and change a few point that's all happens himself is
never seen as appearing out of nowhere it is seen as always being there only
hidden behind the wrong concepts assumptions beliefs it is seen as always
being there not as appearing out of somewhere or not as a progress out of
ignorance into self-knowledge district chain of ignorance is knowledge there is
no separate knowledge of the self he wasn't this happens in the separate
individual selves hum ego whatever you want to call it is gone and he lated it
is the one that did everything that you thought I do
there is no eyes hole there's no doer now who is doing it still the question
remains in minds of many people that okay this is the situation now but there
is no I and now what should I do how should I spend my life and it is an
odd question because just now you said that no I why is there a question now if
there is no I what can it do and so it looks like a very odd situation now and
there will be some questions like do you want me to do nothing how can I remain
alive in this world without doing anything and there are more intelligent
questions like okay there is no I to do anything but actions are happening so
does that mean that I am NOT responsible for these actions that are happening am
I not responsible for my own actions and there are even more intelligent
questions like how to be as a non doer how to not do anything how to act
without acting now as you can see all these questions have I in them there is
a doer in them there is an assumption that there is somebody who is doing
something and self-realization which must have happened by now otherwise why
will anybody ask this kind of stupid question what should I do there is a very interesting thing that
happens is that the mind cannot realize this thing the mind knows only
identification it knows only ego it knows only the self it knows only the
eye this is how it is program it is this jumble of programs in very
complex so the mind quickly comes back with all these confusing questions the
answer is in front of you the answer is clear no I full-stop should not arise this question
so these questions are obviously coming from the mind the mind is not you you
are the witness of these questions this confusing mess and it has happened
because just realized well now I was not there never was there very paradoxical
for the mind very confusing because you just threw a spanner in it's working it
was going smoothly and it was doing it was acting it was there was a doer there
was a very well developed individual there you destroyed it all in one day
now there will be fallout of some kind it happens on the path of knowledge a
lot it's nothing to worry there is a very simple answer to all these
questions of variety of the form what
should I do and the answer is actually very simple it is to sin but it is
simplistic childish answer which is do that is most necessary and do that which
you love to do which is your nature so above be as you are nothing special
needs to be done this is shocking because people expect not people Minds
since they are going in on their own track it's very difficult for us to
bring the mind back on the right track immediately so because that is what
cultivation is to always bring back the mind on the right track using awareness
so it keeps going it has a momentum some kind so it looks very shocking what you
said I am self-realized you said and that and you said I got the whole knowledge knowing which nothing remains
to be known now you're giving me this very childish answer you're telling me
to do when the doer was destroyed I was expecting something grand you see go and
serve humanity create the universes take care of this Brahmin you are in charge
you are a Rishi now and this is all mine this is all ego you see coming through the back door with even greater vigor
inflated ego because the stamp of enlightenment is there on it now
whatever that is I told you that you cannot be destroyed you can only realize that it is not
there it won't actually disappear forever it's not possible just like everything
else this is paradoxical cannot be grasped intellectually using only the
mind cannot be grasped you need an actual experience so those who had the
self realization the experience of no self no separation no individuality
no I they will understand each and every word of what I am saying they will
understand this answer that I just gave to the question of what should I do it
is very natural it's very obvious those who have not bothered yet to look
inwards and investigate the presence or absence of the eye the separate self
individual um whatever you want to call it they will not be able to grasp what I
am going to say so it will be waste of time so I gave you the introduction and
gave you the question I gave you the answer and I also told you who for whom
this answer is useful not for those who are still in the eye the rest of the
discussion will sound like mumbo jumbo to them those who clearly know this open secret that there is no I they will be
able to do that which is most Ness they will be able to do that which they
love to do the rest will not understand anything it's why so you you are most welcome to
listen there is no harm but if you think that it is it does not make any sense
then I'll suggest that you go and listen to them podcast episodes on what is my
essence part 1 into where through the self inquiry we destroy the eye and few
more episodes are there where it is totally cleared up should not take more
than one or two days to introspect destroy completely get the experience as
they say the experience is also very odd those who successfully do it myself and
cry they are surprised those who fail they are afraid they don't want to look
again so there is some kind of threshold here there is some kind of readiness
then seeker must have there needs to be a word be seeker in order to see it
although it's it's so simple it is the simplest thing to do in this world it is
difficult because of the resistance of the mind because of deep ignorance
because of thousands of biases and willingness to look narrow mindedness
skepticism blind beliefs the cup being already full so on and on there are so
many reasons the reasons themselves are very difficult the knowledge itself is very easy look there is no self there is
no I there is no individual there is no ego but there is an illusion of it which
is created by the mind and this illusory self must do it cannot sit without doing
anything it must act this is how we solve this question in the real self or the
universal self in the universal consciousness does not act it is merely
an observer silent witness laughs everything that is happening nobody's doing it nothing is being done
there are no intentions behind anything that is being experienced there are no
doers nobody is responsible for anything that appears fear in our experience any
kind of experience before birth during life after death this world that world
beyond the world any any experience not being done by anything not even by that
which is witnessing it is only witnessing the doer resides fully in the
domain of the mind as an assumption as an illusion and it is very necessary for
its functioning without the doer without the separate self the individual mind
simply won't function it is very important component of the mental
structure layers of the mind there is one layer that is fully dedicated to
construction of the individuality maintenance of it in spite of all the
impermanence this individual is being maintained it is being maintained as an
object and it is being maintained in the same fashion other objects are being
maintained in spite of their impermanence about which we discussed in
sufficient detail in properties last episode on them mad mad world or even
before that how the mind has mechanisms to keep the illusion of permanence going
in the ego the eye is also one of the
illusion one of the objects which although is a river of experiences a
flowing experience it is maintained as one constant thing that's why it is an
illusion that's why we call it loosely because it's not there still it's being
perceived as being there through this construction mechanism and it must do something because that is
how the mind functions it something happens through this system of mind body
and this layer immediately takes a responsibility of it declares itself as
the actor not itself this illusory self as the actor and it helps in survival it
is tremendously helpful without it nobody can survive here the body cannot
survive the man cannot survive the organism cannot survive there is there will be no meaningful life it will be
like a tree probably trees also have some kind of individuality who knows not
human like something the whole human society is formed on the concept of
separate self a responsible person a conscious entity with free will who does
everything intentionally because that is how we see the other the other person
the illusion of the other person is formed painted in this way in these
colors a body a mind intention freewill likes dislikes responsibility so on
these are the colors the construct this image of other and there is there is a
other for this one also there is a person for this one also this body and
mind just like the other is a construct this one also is a construct just like
the other is doing something through his or her own intentions and free will this
one is also seen as appears as doing something through its own intentions
likes dislikes and is held responsible just like others are held responsible
for their actions their apparent actions so this is how the whole illusion of
society works without this it will fall away I cannot even imagine what can
happen it will be a big mess you are not you am not I so what now there's no doer
let us not do anything there will be life but it will be very very a simple life it will be like
bacteria and bugs trees and plants even even the insects have very complicated
life because there is individual there all the separation is not as clear as in
higher animals because of our well-developed the sense of ego or
individuality we could evolve to the level of humans because a human is
nothing without a society human is a group animal you see the language that I
am using to talk to you comes from this is our society how to eat how to sleep how to say it how to work how to talk
how to feed myself how to clothe myself how to clean myself everything comes
from the society this individual is the thing without the society even those who
leave the society they will they cannot leave it when they were infants they
would die very quickly they need a family which is again society people
tend to form these groups in order to survive and that has helped a lot see it
is important even though it is an illusion if the whole scheme it is an
important illusion you cannot say that no and there's no individual and now I am NOT going to anything that is kind of
not well thought statement you should think there is a reason that all the
illusionists there it is because of the necessity Mississippi means that there
cannot be anything else it is like a homework I give you to see the truth of
the statement it it is all because of necessity so the first thing we do is
accept because this is necessary yes there needs to be an individual there needs to be a doer and it must function
in the society no matter how godly you are no matter how refined you have
become you are the same little individual the spiritual knowledge is of no use
when it comes to functioning as an individual in the elusive one delivery
Society the illusion usual must function in a specific way it is all out of
necessity so when we talk about the cells we talked about the Atman Brahman
we say no individual and this is the ultimate truth there is no separation when we talk about the illusion we talk
about the individual now it is there except what else can you do except the
illusion as long as it is there otherwise it is going to cause a lot of
conflict and odd kind of behavior which we see in the spiritual community gives
rises to all kinds of conflicting ideas
conflicting actions and don't worry there is a solution for this fallout
that happens after the bomb of self-realization explodes it can be
sorted out starts with acceptance yes there is an individual I can experience
it is not me yes no problem I know that as my direct experience now how should
the individual act what should the individual do this is the correct way of framing the question
if you say what should i do then it's probably very confusing for everybody what should the illusory individual do
and that is more meaningful question the answer is very simple as I said look
there is no individual to do anything you know it is illusory so it cannot do
much cannot do anything it takes on the responsibility of that which is
happening through this body mind and it is the whole that is acting through the
body mind and if it is the whole that is acting essentially that means it nobody's acting so in simple language we
say that it is happening it is it appears it is witnessed as the events
they happen how do they happen and the answer is very clear with
it is program it is memory it is the Sun
scar karmic structure the genetic coding and the programming that the mind does
through its own experiences what is good for it what is bad for it what is
pleasurable what is painful and so on this forms a very vast structure of
knowledge in the mind which is which is necessary for survival on the individual and all the actions happen through that
structure when the actions happen there is a process that takes up the
responsibility of that action calls it my action this is how the mind distinguishes between your action and my
own action the action of the other in the action of this one this is this is the way the mind has evolved this is the
trick that it uses to separate and that ensures you know survival otherwise
there will be this is going to be a lot of confusion who did what so mine was by dividing and this is very nice trick
very wise thing to do so it all happens it happens in a fully deterministic way
and when nothing else can happen X of this action that is determined by the
reprogramming of the mind then we say that it is necessary that this should
happen whatever happens is by necessity then there is no one to decide no one
with will no one with an intention and so whatever happens happens by necessity
and therefore my answer was do that which is necessary because that is what
is going to happen anyway see that is how we arrive at this answer it's very
simple and that is why I said those who still think that there is a thing there
which is exercising free will there is a thing there which intends to do something and then everything starts
there is a cause there which cause the action and that causes me well you
need to investigate more and that is why I said you won't understand a single word of this discussion question it
question everything question your assumptions look directly look without conditioning look without mind have a
direct experience which is unfiltered you cannot read it in the books you cannot listen to me or somebody else and
find oh it is there and no these things are only pointers they are asking you to
investigate it has to be your own experience it has to be your own realization no things are happening and
yes there is this illusion of duel and yes it must happen in a fully
deterministic way even if it happens randomly well nobody is there to decide
randomly also randomness is there you can say what is randomness it is
something which we don't understand the causes are too many to understand remember it is this it is the whole that
is doing there are infinite number of causes here so the model of cause and
effect is not useful see the cause and effect is also an illusion created by
the mind and the purpose is again survival it needs to know what causes what so it creates that kind of model of
reality for its own use very easy demonstrate all these things we have
done that many times now so all that happens through this body mind the loser
individual is by necessity and that is what one must do do that which is
necessary and nothing else will happen this is a guarantee you see nothing else can happen only that which is necessary
happens and the second thing is the mind is again programmed biased in certain
ways depending on the life of the individual whatever experiences he or she encountered and likes and dislikes
are formed which are only proof princess you see in these things these actions gave me pleasure helped me in
survival made my ego you know stronger and so put it in the category of like
these actions were harmful for me these actions produce bad feelings these actions you know produce bitter fruit
it's somewhere the other way and pleasant put it in this light category
and this is fully determined by the surviving mechanized survival mechanisms in the mind this is nothing like liked
and disliked here it's all only a categorization of the actions then it
may perform and it always chooses that which it likes it does not choose
anything else this can be seen even in situations where you think no no I had
to do something which I disliked but there will be something else which you liked which which overpowered this small
dislike that you had for that action for example you dislike washing your clothes
it's a very boring thing to do laundry but you you say no I need to do this
anyway because you like the clean clothes wearing clean clothes you do not like smelly clothes so that bigger like
is now overpowering this small dislike it's pushing you and you say I don't like my job but I do it look I'm using
my intention now I'm using my will to do that which the mind says I don't like but there is a bigger intention there
there is a bigger preference there which is to earn money probably you don't have
any other option if you had a better job you would have given up this job long
ago to survive is the biggest necessity it is the biggest like biggest
preference and overpowers everything so given to likes when is more important
more necessary than the other the mind always does that which is most necessary it knows you you can see it disliking
the that job but you will see it choosing it and
don't let this very complicated functioning of the mind fool you into
believing that I am doing it you see step one more step into the working of
the mind don't sit at the shall shallow Shore of the mind it is very deep go in
check whatever you thought was real is again an illusion if you if you can come
up with another example which is even more complicated than this see that there will be another layer of necessity
likes dislikes programs genetic conditioning and so on
so as I said the mind is very logical very mechanical machine like it does not
do anything in logical it does not do anything irrational the irrational is
also contained in the machinery of the mind then there is always a reason for
it and the reason is always necessity it is always necessary that's why it does that
irrational thing then we have seen we have discussed this topic also in
extreme detail probably it is called spirituality and logic something the
topic was called like this where I went into the details of the working of the
mind that it cannot do anything that is illogical cannot do anything that is irrational this always a very
complicated reason for whatever it does there's always necessary it is always
according to the program it is always according to the curb our sense cars if you want to use the old language so all
elections they get filtered through the likes and dislikes and that is why the mind does only that which it likes which
it absolutely loves it does only that that is why I say do that which you love
to do because nothing else can be done nothing else will happen you can see it
you check it you can confirm it again and again and again I'll be very happy
to know as an ex Chintu this rule that all actions happen by necessity all actions happen through
the filters of likes and dislikes is pure conditioning that is what mind is
you think mine is something magical no it's a machine it's an object
it's a non-physical object there are no physical objects here may be structured
in layers every layer functions in essentially the same way it is by
necessity it is by program every layer has a corresponding memory where there is a program it is executing exactly
that it is a self programming mechanism so that the incoming experiences they reprogram it and it is always in
accordance with the principle of survival that which sustains the mind
not the body or something else mind the body is in use and throw things for the
mind that which sustains the mind is preferred becomes the program the action
happens according to that conditioning so even though there is no I there is no doer there will be doing there will be
acting how will it be through the conditioning it will be always that
which is necessary it will always be that which the system loves to do where
there are preferences for it I highly recommend you to go and check for the
validity of these statements probably am wrong probably there is something more that we must do
enlightenment does not matter everybody should do these these things probably
you think like this so investigate there is a lot of mess in the world created by
such people who think that one should do this kind of action because I say it because according to my knowledge this
is the right action so everybody must do it and like an idiot then force their
preference on others those who are itsy-bitsy kind they cannot you know
they can force their will on their dog or on their child or on their wife but
somebody who grows a little bit in the in the society attains a position of
power then he can wreck a hillock with this kind of mentality with this ignorance
and fortunately or unfortunately only ignorant people rise to the power person
with knowledge has no interest in these kind of stupid activities to overpower others and all there is one more
interesting thing that when in ignorance we do absolutely unnecessary things when
in knowledge we do only that is most necessary most required this can look as
if it is contradicting my other statements that as the thing must happen
according to necessity so for an ignorant person also this is this must be true so how can I say that that the
ignorant person is doing something which is unnecessary this is big topic in itself you will find the earlier
statements holds that yes even if there is no self realization total ignorance
whatever reactions happen through such a person are also necessary in there also
according to likes and dislikes they also do that which they love to do nobody will disagree with this so how
can I say that the Gani does everything that is necessary if that Gary does you
know totally unnecessary useless things now we need to step down a little more
into the illusion except except there is ignorance there is like this mechanism
in mind then now see some actions harmful to the whole some actions are
violent the very broad sense of the word violence there causing damage to the
whole we are causing damage to the evolution to the Universal Mind the
structure the whole structure and we categorize them as unnecessary this is
probably the third step into the illusion we are going deeper and deeper and so knowing that I am the whole I am
NOT this individual we can categorize these actions as
necessary even though willfully know that they are happening according to the preferences in the mind
they cannot happen in any other way so you can even take one more step into
ignorance and say that do that which ensures your survival which keeps you alive which keeps you happy and free and
while fully knowing that nothing can be done nothing else can be done these are
the objectives of the mind survival is its only action and so in
line with the mind and its preferences this dissolves everything it's very
clear now they should not be any kind of doubt now that oh there is no do we're probably just I'll just sit here and
just breathe you can try that it's not
going to work the individual cannot sit and the Maya won't let him fit this is
like an agreement when we took the farm and that you will need to do something
here I'm giving you this experience of the world of the body of an individual
in the society of individuals now you cannot say no otherwise you don't go
there this is what Maya told us this is what she said Mary signed agreement the
end-user agreement and so you will find it's impossible to sit here you are
always doing something and then over about there is a confusion that no doer
what should I do this is the root of this confusion that you are mixing their fundamental
knowledge with illusion now you have taken up the illusion you have taken up
their lose your body so take up the illusion of the doer also accept it
and you know that nothing else can happen because there is no doers so you accept all the actions that are
happening through this body mind through this individual I don't know what it
will do I don't know whether it is right and wrong there's nothing right nothing wrong and
I don't know what effect it will have on the so-called individual blind no only
one thing that nothing else can happen even if you try to do something else is
kind of impossible this will bring peace to the mind because you are an actor just like a
movie actor if you're you know that you need to act according to the script the script is your own karmic programming so
you're freed from the responsibility now the actor is doing whatever the script the same now the funny thing is you
cannot tell this to the other actors look I killed your brother in the movie then that is because of the script the
other actor is going to fight with you is going to kill you in the movie that
is also written that is his script you cannot cut you cannot complain here so
if you are in the illusion then accept the whole of it not only my part
look I am NOT responsible for my actions because you see it is all happening so yeah the others are also not responsible
and if they you know kill you if they if they do something horrible then they are
also not responsible then it's not only your responsibility that is illusory
everybody's responsibility is illusory Ben so you see it does not work like this you cannot escape this if you are
in the illusion then play the part as if it is real and that is the fun otherwise
the movie it's not worth watching it's not worth acting in that movie that you
don't want to be you go buy the script when you want others to follow their script it's it's not it will be a flop
movie will be total disaster the director will kick you out the director is Maya she does not like
such actors that's why those who are liberated from where they do where they
do not appear in Maya again she does not let them appear again here that is all
forever they're become nothingness there becomes everything now so once there is this mind there will be in usual there will
be structure and it will act according to that structure its conditioning there
are many many layers of conditioning it starts from that which you heard one
second ago to something which you have then which you did a thousand lifetimes
ago and don't even try to dig it out it's very dense it's very deep it's very
complicated in the Karma's very dense the Maya is very complex beyond human
understanding except because you can see
the essence you can see but it must be happening like this essentially you don't need to go into the details some
people are trying to dig out this event happened in my life let me find out the cause you know then they go into
hypnosis something oh this 20 lifetimes ago I did something and what is the use
of this can you prevent it can stop it can you change it is there anybody to
change it is there anybody if it is governing your actions are way your actions look at it
from all possible points a few that we have discussed no matter what you do no matter what kind of stupid PLR things
you do or you believe in all these things there is no such thing actually there is no past life there is no
present life or also for you you are immortal you are a pure emptiness no
lives for you so whatever is happening is an illusion just like in the night dream the dream character appears with a
history and its actions I seem to be willed or if the dream characters happen
happens to be spiritual fellow he will think oh he's happening completely
determined by the memory in the mind the stream is happening let me find out why
this is happening let me go in the mind and check for what reason this is happy and whether I can change it probably
hopefully I can change it I can make the dream better and you can see the
foolishness of the dream character here no matter what he does is in the dream it is going to happen it is already
happened actually you've just been witnessed it has happened in a perfectly deterministic
way so this is the metaphor should not be confused with this illusion of the
waking state it is similar and not exactly the same so we are not exactly a dream character
but something similar is going on it does not matter you cannot change the
actions there's nobody to will the change and there is nobody to intend to
change it's also happening it is also happening according to the need according to the necessity and now after
listening to this there can be many questions like should I should not then cultivate I should not try to improve my
mind I should not behave in a better way I should not be nonviolent should not be
unconditionally loving should not do the right thing now should I
you see these confusing thoughts must be there in your mind now so look at it
from the same angle again that if there is a desire him in your mind to improve
the body or improve the mind improve its behavior then this desire also appeared
out of necessity now nothing else will happen the improvement will happen there's nobody doing it
it is also happening so let it happen if you feel it is necessary yes I should
change my behavior like this I should get rid of all my afflictions of the
mind all my bad habits addictions and attitudes and bad wrong beliefs rotten
believes then yes because necessity has arrived
now now the reprogramming has happened nobody is doing it you cannot do it you
cannot improve anything and some people think there I can improve myself and I can improve the other also I can show them how to behave
in a proper way in a spiritual way and this is the stability of the highest order no you cannot determine your own
actions how can you even think that you can make others act in a specific way
according to your preferences look that is why the Caddy is just sitting here
not trying to improve anybody not interested in in the world not
interested in any charity he does exactly that which happens very funny
statement isn't it yes I am doing it and I am doing it exactly in the way it must
happen I call it my intention I call it my will I call it my like in dislike how does
that matter call it anything you want some people will export their intentions
wills and likes and dislikes into orbit they will launch it there they like to
see something sitting in the sky which is doing all this thing this is distortion of the spiritual teaching the
whole is doing it and then you know and there is this ignorance in ordinary mind the whole must be up there in the sky it
is doing it so yes not my will I am relieved from this responsibility no
it's not your will but you are not also relieved because the responsibility will be taken by the individual and the
society will not leave you like this in spite of all the religious teachings has anything changed in the society can
I escape a crime by saying that oh I did not do it whole did it not my will
what is the judge going to say he will probably sentence you for 200 years
instead of 20 years now because see it's such such a person with this kind of
attitude is big danger to the society who does not want to take responsibility of his actions should be locked away
forever lock him up for two years bag and do the same thing this he thinks is not responsible
they will brand you as lunatic not religious not spiritual so you see Gani
is also taking all the responsibility of his own actions he says yes I did it I
owned this thing yes I married my child there is my responsibility now it is my
responsibility to take care of my family my country my tribe my body my mind I
felt deviated he does it with full enthusiasm does not sit at one place so
there is no doer this will never work there is a difference between what is
true and what works that's why it's called the very knowledge that which you
need to employ in this transactional reality a spiritual knowledge is in is incomplete without the knowledge of the
illusion sometimes your guru will start from the
knowledge of the illusion and he will tell you as if it is true so that is the
path of karma yoga you can recognize it like this do the right thing these these things have a great thing donate serve
forgive defend kill do the needful this
is very funny phrase in India it is found only in Indian English do the needful so it comes from the ancient
wisdom that are the batteries needed will happen so let us do that and the
whole karma yoga is based upon this if you do that which is necessary with full
attention full awareness in most beautiful way you are all related you
don't need any knowledge you don't need any experience you don't need to do the tenth rope and three and reach up
nothing because the sage is the realize that is what is going to happen ultimately you see even if you get it
truckload of knowledge what are you going to do you're going to do that
which is necessary and better do it in the most beautiful way most logical and
rational way if possible what else can you do what is happen viral so confused own and I don't
like this job I don't want to do don't do it then do that which you like ultimately that is what is going to
happen suffering is the indicator that you are not doing that which you like oh no I don't want to be in relate this
relation it is a toxic relation I don't be in the relationship leave the religion suffering is the indicator of
suffering is the red light which once you look now things are going to go bad
better step back from here that is what is necessary and staying there in the
suffering is totally unnecessary so the Guru will teach you these thing is sin
in the path of action that in such a
such way okay don't kill animals don't kill people somebody tries to kill you
kill them and so on always say truth never lie never deceive get what you
want go for pleasure not for pain for sure go for a good body healthy body money
rich prosperity power to go for all these things these are the teachings in
the car poke so probably very shocking for the person who is not on this path
but is it nothing else is possible no matter on which path you are this body
mind is going to do all these things more or less so what the guru is saying do that is necessary do that is that
which you like don't overdo it it has to be done in a beautiful way not in ugly
way not not in the excessive way not like an idiot not in a harmful way not
in a violent way when there is a need the violence needs to be also used in as
beautiful way as possible in this world every organism survives on the dead body
of other organism now try to be less ugly as less ugly as possible in doing
this do that take that which is necessary this is we'll be the teaching now people will
turn this into some cult or religion and then it goes downhill because the
necessary knowledge is lacking if it takes twenty years for the student to
arrive on the path of action then the Guru must take him to the next level
next stage which is look what has been your experience have you done anything
by now the seeker must have realized by himself that no sir
everything happened in the most perfect possible way if not that means now it is
the duty of the Guru to point it out who was doing all these things what do you
think that will be the liberation of the seeker on the path of not action we can
do the same thing by telling the seeker that look there is no do where there is
no actor and you will need to do something this body mind needs flew these things and it must be done in this
way the most necessary in a loving way beautifully which brings happiness and
freedom there is no other goal for the human life do you think impression is
the goal No the mind cannot be liberated you are already liberated that is not
the goal that is the goal for an ignorant person okay achieve the liberation first and this question that
we are discussing you know what to do now is after liberation after
realization there is no brief to liberate so we can do it in the reverse way which is according to my opinion is
is better you don't need to wait twenty years to see you know what what will be
then a result of your perfect actions you can see it now they are all perfect
isn't it they're all perfect don't need to date change even a bit here and there
oh then what about evolution what about cultivation what about my progress freedom from the human life birth in
that's what about the Jeeva don't worry don't worry it's it's all happening is
it's all happening the perfect tree once there is this knowledge can you act in a stupid way
is it possible now can you do something ugly knowingly is it possible
look this is already happened for you it has been taken care it's not in your
hand don't think that you can evolve something there's no you you are not
responsible for your evolution or devolution and there has to be you to responsible but this knowledge will do
it you don't have to worry it will happen it will happen in the most perfect way the most beautiful way only
that which is necessary will happen oh am self-realized am this and that why is
there still suffering why am i suffering then look again you are not suffering
there was this experience of suffering it is because of not doing that which is
which was necessary now correct it and but I have not there I am just a witness
how can it correct you don't know it will correct itself this seed has been planted corrected and the seed will grow
into an action it will terminate in action say it is somewhat complicated if
you think like this but essential stuff is very easy so what needs to see is
that all my assumptions were wrong about the DOOL all my assumptions about the
mind were wrong all my confusion was because of the ignorance which was
implanted by the society you are this you are that you need to do this unit to
behave like that you need to speak like this you need to become like this see
that all this was BS conditioning you gathered it from somewhere now your guru
told you that you see the situation is something else he has now planted the
right seeds guru is also doing the same thing you see what else the mind can do
you need to have a seed there you need to have a condition there is a little bit of refinement of
your ordinary conditioning and then by the ignorant society the Guru has
refined it is little bit planted the right seeds right right karmic seeds and
they will then sprout and they will grow into a more evolved mind it will be the
same thing it would be slightly refined slightly not slightly nicely developed
very well developed mind and will be free will be happy mind there is no
other destination for the mind it is always happiness and freedom all that it
does is for happiness and freedom that is the only necessity bear you think no
it wants to have a good life it wants to have good food and big house and there's
so many mates social status power and land no it only wants happiness and
freedom these are its actions that's all results of actions this is what happens
by necessity the main things that can continuing in this body when this mind
is going to bring me happiness and so it does it there's also happening - a city it likes it it loves to be a life
function here in the world that is why it is God in this cycle of deaths and
births do you think it does not want it there are preferences as long as there
are preferences it will keep doing it the Guru refines those those preferences
you see the mind is such a funny thing that it cannot be uprooted easily it
will not give up the old preferences for nothing it wants something better it
wants more happiness and freedom so the Guru gives you exactly that look bliss take the Bliss don't go for the petty
pleasures of the world I am giving you something bigger so if you meditate you will be in the blissful state that's
what you know that is the hook that the Guru throws in the water
the fish you'd be free you'll be a little bit liberated you will attain the good birth next life this is what guru
is telling you it isn't the thing it is all lies you see it gives the mind something to hold on so it lets go the
lower tendencies it cannot let go of the Preferences because then what kind of
mind it is it won't be a mind then so slowly the Guru is bringing in the seeker out of this gross mind to a
refined mind and then finally no mind in the complete dissolution of the mind on
the path of knowledge we do it in five minutes look you are not the mind you
need to simply take a look that is not me that the mind does not remain there although it keeps functioning illusion
remains there is a good metaphor in the ancient texts about this if you burn a
rope it still looks like a rope it still has those curves made up of ash but now
you cannot use it to tie anything it is useless ineffective so same for a seeker
on the path of knowledge again he the mind is burnt away like a burnt rope it is totally illusory now what can it
tie you free freed from the ropes there is a better mentor fairer which is of a
movie met when you were a small child you thought that whatever is happening
on the screen is real all these demons and people they are real and I remember
myself I used to get very very frightened or when people were trying on this thing I used to start crying also
because I thought something bad has happened there nothing it is it was real because of the ignorance that that is a
movie for a child no difference for a child my like mind no difference between
illusion and reality so we are afraid here we cry here we laugh here we enjoy
this illusion termined ously because there is this ignorance that it is real
otherwise we won't we won't be able to enjoy it so as you grow up you know that these
movies they're fake you still enjoy them don't you but you you're not affected by them not
that much same thing and the person on the panels not match yours out of the
world no not no more affected but totally in it totally enjoying it and the enjoyment is both negative and
positive there's both pain and pleasure there is duality and he says so what can
there be a movie without good and bad in it that will be utterly boring movie he where nothing happens will the character
still you then look this is a movie don't watch us director we'll bring in the camera in the frame look this is the
camera we are shooting the movie who is going to watch that movie the whole effort of movie moviemaking is to create
a convincing reality as convincing as possible their viewer is fully engrossed
in it fully trapped in the movie and then it is a good movie my eyes a good
director she deserves an Oscar for the best movie of all time we are in the
movie we are both the actors and the Watchers
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pure experiences
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you were listening to pure experiences by the room Pradhan
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