What should I do?

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[Music] as we know there is no I there's no

person there is my usual and there is no doer because there is no one to do

anything this is essentially self-realization this is odd because the

disappearance of the separate self the eye is the appearance of the universal

self that money it is still called the self realization because shifting of the

identity realizing no self is self realization that is again a very odd

statement but here the no self means realizing that there is nothing separate

from the whole it is all not to so the self is never found only that which is

assumed as self is destroyed this is the essence of self realization those who

are still looking for the self good luck because cannot be found it is not there

whatever will be assumed as this is the self it will be wrong assumption you

will need to remove all these concepts of what can be resettled and whatever remains will be the real self this is

self realization and it is very funny because nothing remains except the hole and the small narrow view turns into

very big in finite view and change a few point that's all happens himself is

never seen as appearing out of nowhere it is seen as always being there only

hidden behind the wrong concepts assumptions beliefs it is seen as always

being there not as appearing out of somewhere or not as a progress out of

ignorance into self-knowledge district chain of ignorance is knowledge there is

no separate knowledge of the self he wasn't this happens in the separate

individual selves hum ego whatever you want to call it is gone and he lated it

is the one that did everything that you thought I do

there is no eyes hole there's no doer now who is doing it still the question

remains in minds of many people that okay this is the situation now but there

is no I and now what should I do how should I spend my life and it is an

odd question because just now you said that no I why is there a question now if

there is no I what can it do and so it looks like a very odd situation now and

there will be some questions like do you want me to do nothing how can I remain

alive in this world without doing anything and there are more intelligent

questions like okay there is no I to do anything but actions are happening so

does that mean that I am NOT responsible for these actions that are happening am

I not responsible for my own actions and there are even more intelligent

questions like how to be as a non doer how to not do anything how to act

without acting now as you can see all these questions have I in them there is

a doer in them there is an assumption that there is somebody who is doing

something and self-realization which must have happened by now otherwise why

will anybody ask this kind of stupid question what should I do there is a very interesting thing that

happens is that the mind cannot realize this thing the mind knows only

identification it knows only ego it knows only the self it knows only the

eye this is how it is program it is this jumble of programs in very

complex so the mind quickly comes back with all these confusing questions the

answer is in front of you the answer is clear no I full-stop should not arise this question

so these questions are obviously coming from the mind the mind is not you you

are the witness of these questions this confusing mess and it has happened

because just realized well now I was not there never was there very paradoxical

for the mind very confusing because you just threw a spanner in it's working it

was going smoothly and it was doing it was acting it was there was a doer there

was a very well developed individual there you destroyed it all in one day

now there will be fallout of some kind it happens on the path of knowledge a

lot it's nothing to worry there is a very simple answer to all these

questions of variety of the form what

should I do and the answer is actually very simple it is to sin but it is

simplistic childish answer which is do that is most necessary and do that which

you love to do which is your nature so above be as you are nothing special

needs to be done this is shocking because people expect not people Minds

since they are going in on their own track it's very difficult for us to

bring the mind back on the right track immediately so because that is what

cultivation is to always bring back the mind on the right track using awareness

so it keeps going it has a momentum some kind so it looks very shocking what you

said I am self-realized you said and that and you said I got the whole knowledge knowing which nothing remains

to be known now you're giving me this very childish answer you're telling me

to do when the doer was destroyed I was expecting something grand you see go and

serve humanity create the universes take care of this Brahmin you are in charge

you are a Rishi now and this is all mine this is all ego you see coming through the back door with even greater vigor

inflated ego because the stamp of enlightenment is there on it now

whatever that is I told you that you cannot be destroyed you can only realize that it is not

there it won't actually disappear forever it's not possible just like everything

else this is paradoxical cannot be grasped intellectually using only the

mind cannot be grasped you need an actual experience so those who had the

self realization the experience of no self no separation no individuality

no I they will understand each and every word of what I am saying they will

understand this answer that I just gave to the question of what should I do it

is very natural it's very obvious those who have not bothered yet to look

inwards and investigate the presence or absence of the eye the separate self

individual um whatever you want to call it they will not be able to grasp what I

am going to say so it will be waste of time so I gave you the introduction and

gave you the question I gave you the answer and I also told you who for whom

this answer is useful not for those who are still in the eye the rest of the

discussion will sound like mumbo jumbo to them those who clearly know this open secret that there is no I they will be

able to do that which is most Ness they will be able to do that which they

love to do the rest will not understand anything it's why so you you are most welcome to

listen there is no harm but if you think that it is it does not make any sense

then I'll suggest that you go and listen to them podcast episodes on what is my

essence part 1 into where through the self inquiry we destroy the eye and few

more episodes are there where it is totally cleared up should not take more

than one or two days to introspect destroy completely get the experience as

they say the experience is also very odd those who successfully do it myself and

cry they are surprised those who fail they are afraid they don't want to look

again so there is some kind of threshold here there is some kind of readiness

then seeker must have there needs to be a word be seeker in order to see it

although it's it's so simple it is the simplest thing to do in this world it is

difficult because of the resistance of the mind because of deep ignorance

because of thousands of biases and willingness to look narrow mindedness

skepticism blind beliefs the cup being already full so on and on there are so

many reasons the reasons themselves are very difficult the knowledge itself is very easy look there is no self there is

no I there is no individual there is no ego but there is an illusion of it which

is created by the mind and this illusory self must do it cannot sit without doing

anything it must act this is how we solve this question in the real self or the

universal self in the universal consciousness does not act it is merely

an observer silent witness laughs everything that is happening nobody's doing it nothing is being done

there are no intentions behind anything that is being experienced there are no

doers nobody is responsible for anything that appears fear in our experience any

kind of experience before birth during life after death this world that world

beyond the world any any experience not being done by anything not even by that

which is witnessing it is only witnessing the doer resides fully in the

domain of the mind as an assumption as an illusion and it is very necessary for

its functioning without the doer without the separate self the individual mind

simply won't function it is very important component of the mental

structure layers of the mind there is one layer that is fully dedicated to

construction of the individuality maintenance of it in spite of all the

impermanence this individual is being maintained it is being maintained as an

object and it is being maintained in the same fashion other objects are being

maintained in spite of their impermanence about which we discussed in

sufficient detail in properties last episode on them mad mad world or even

before that how the mind has mechanisms to keep the illusion of permanence going

in the ego the eye is also one of the

illusion one of the objects which although is a river of experiences a

flowing experience it is maintained as one constant thing that's why it is an

illusion that's why we call it loosely because it's not there still it's being

perceived as being there through this construction mechanism and it must do something because that is

how the mind functions it something happens through this system of mind body

and this layer immediately takes a responsibility of it declares itself as

the actor not itself this illusory self as the actor and it helps in survival it

is tremendously helpful without it nobody can survive here the body cannot

survive the man cannot survive the organism cannot survive there is there will be no meaningful life it will be

like a tree probably trees also have some kind of individuality who knows not

human like something the whole human society is formed on the concept of

separate self a responsible person a conscious entity with free will who does

everything intentionally because that is how we see the other the other person

the illusion of the other person is formed painted in this way in these

colors a body a mind intention freewill likes dislikes responsibility so on

these are the colors the construct this image of other and there is there is a

other for this one also there is a person for this one also this body and

mind just like the other is a construct this one also is a construct just like

the other is doing something through his or her own intentions and free will this

one is also seen as appears as doing something through its own intentions

likes dislikes and is held responsible just like others are held responsible

for their actions their apparent actions so this is how the whole illusion of

society works without this it will fall away I cannot even imagine what can

happen it will be a big mess you are not you am not I so what now there's no doer

let us not do anything there will be life but it will be very very a simple life it will be like

bacteria and bugs trees and plants even even the insects have very complicated

life because there is individual there all the separation is not as clear as in

higher animals because of our well-developed the sense of ego or

individuality we could evolve to the level of humans because a human is

nothing without a society human is a group animal you see the language that I

am using to talk to you comes from this is our society how to eat how to sleep how to say it how to work how to talk

how to feed myself how to clothe myself how to clean myself everything comes

from the society this individual is the thing without the society even those who

leave the society they will they cannot leave it when they were infants they

would die very quickly they need a family which is again society people

tend to form these groups in order to survive and that has helped a lot see it

is important even though it is an illusion if the whole scheme it is an

important illusion you cannot say that no and there's no individual and now I am NOT going to anything that is kind of

not well thought statement you should think there is a reason that all the

illusionists there it is because of the necessity Mississippi means that there

cannot be anything else it is like a homework I give you to see the truth of

the statement it it is all because of necessity so the first thing we do is

accept because this is necessary yes there needs to be an individual there needs to be a doer and it must function

in the society no matter how godly you are no matter how refined you have

become you are the same little individual the spiritual knowledge is of no use

when it comes to functioning as an individual in the elusive one delivery

Society the illusion usual must function in a specific way it is all out of

necessity so when we talk about the cells we talked about the Atman Brahman

we say no individual and this is the ultimate truth there is no separation when we talk about the illusion we talk

about the individual now it is there except what else can you do except the

illusion as long as it is there otherwise it is going to cause a lot of

conflict and odd kind of behavior which we see in the spiritual community gives

rises to all kinds of conflicting ideas

conflicting actions and don't worry there is a solution for this fallout

that happens after the bomb of self-realization explodes it can be

sorted out starts with acceptance yes there is an individual I can experience

it is not me yes no problem I know that as my direct experience now how should

the individual act what should the individual do this is the correct way of framing the question

if you say what should i do then it's probably very confusing for everybody what should the illusory individual do

and that is more meaningful question the answer is very simple as I said look

there is no individual to do anything you know it is illusory so it cannot do

much cannot do anything it takes on the responsibility of that which is

happening through this body mind and it is the whole that is acting through the

body mind and if it is the whole that is acting essentially that means it nobody's acting so in simple language we

say that it is happening it is it appears it is witnessed as the events

they happen how do they happen and the answer is very clear with

it is program it is memory it is the Sun

scar karmic structure the genetic coding and the programming that the mind does

through its own experiences what is good for it what is bad for it what is

pleasurable what is painful and so on this forms a very vast structure of

knowledge in the mind which is which is necessary for survival on the individual and all the actions happen through that

structure when the actions happen there is a process that takes up the

responsibility of that action calls it my action this is how the mind distinguishes between your action and my

own action the action of the other in the action of this one this is this is the way the mind has evolved this is the

trick that it uses to separate and that ensures you know survival otherwise

there will be this is going to be a lot of confusion who did what so mine was by dividing and this is very nice trick

very wise thing to do so it all happens it happens in a fully deterministic way

and when nothing else can happen X of this action that is determined by the

reprogramming of the mind then we say that it is necessary that this should

happen whatever happens is by necessity then there is no one to decide no one

with will no one with an intention and so whatever happens happens by necessity

and therefore my answer was do that which is necessary because that is what

is going to happen anyway see that is how we arrive at this answer it's very

simple and that is why I said those who still think that there is a thing there

which is exercising free will there is a thing there which intends to do something and then everything starts

there is a cause there which cause the action and that causes me well you

need to investigate more and that is why I said you won't understand a single word of this discussion question it

question everything question your assumptions look directly look without conditioning look without mind have a

direct experience which is unfiltered you cannot read it in the books you cannot listen to me or somebody else and

find oh it is there and no these things are only pointers they are asking you to

investigate it has to be your own experience it has to be your own realization no things are happening and

yes there is this illusion of duel and yes it must happen in a fully

deterministic way even if it happens randomly well nobody is there to decide

randomly also randomness is there you can say what is randomness it is

something which we don't understand the causes are too many to understand remember it is this it is the whole that

is doing there are infinite number of causes here so the model of cause and

effect is not useful see the cause and effect is also an illusion created by

the mind and the purpose is again survival it needs to know what causes what so it creates that kind of model of

reality for its own use very easy demonstrate all these things we have

done that many times now so all that happens through this body mind the loser

individual is by necessity and that is what one must do do that which is

necessary and nothing else will happen this is a guarantee you see nothing else can happen only that which is necessary

happens and the second thing is the mind is again programmed biased in certain

ways depending on the life of the individual whatever experiences he or she encountered and likes and dislikes

are formed which are only proof princess you see in these things these actions gave me pleasure helped me in

survival made my ego you know stronger and so put it in the category of like

these actions were harmful for me these actions produce bad feelings these actions you know produce bitter fruit

it's somewhere the other way and pleasant put it in this light category

and this is fully determined by the surviving mechanized survival mechanisms in the mind this is nothing like liked

and disliked here it's all only a categorization of the actions then it

may perform and it always chooses that which it likes it does not choose

anything else this can be seen even in situations where you think no no I had

to do something which I disliked but there will be something else which you liked which which overpowered this small

dislike that you had for that action for example you dislike washing your clothes

it's a very boring thing to do laundry but you you say no I need to do this

anyway because you like the clean clothes wearing clean clothes you do not like smelly clothes so that bigger like

is now overpowering this small dislike it's pushing you and you say I don't like my job but I do it look I'm using

my intention now I'm using my will to do that which the mind says I don't like but there is a bigger intention there

there is a bigger preference there which is to earn money probably you don't have

any other option if you had a better job you would have given up this job long

ago to survive is the biggest necessity it is the biggest like biggest

preference and overpowers everything so given to likes when is more important

more necessary than the other the mind always does that which is most necessary it knows you you can see it disliking

the that job but you will see it choosing it and

don't let this very complicated functioning of the mind fool you into

believing that I am doing it you see step one more step into the working of

the mind don't sit at the shall shallow Shore of the mind it is very deep go in

check whatever you thought was real is again an illusion if you if you can come

up with another example which is even more complicated than this see that there will be another layer of necessity

likes dislikes programs genetic conditioning and so on

so as I said the mind is very logical very mechanical machine like it does not

do anything in logical it does not do anything irrational the irrational is

also contained in the machinery of the mind then there is always a reason for

it and the reason is always necessity it is always necessary that's why it does that

irrational thing then we have seen we have discussed this topic also in

extreme detail probably it is called spirituality and logic something the

topic was called like this where I went into the details of the working of the

mind that it cannot do anything that is illogical cannot do anything that is irrational this always a very

complicated reason for whatever it does there's always necessary it is always

according to the program it is always according to the curb our sense cars if you want to use the old language so all

elections they get filtered through the likes and dislikes and that is why the mind does only that which it likes which

it absolutely loves it does only that that is why I say do that which you love

to do because nothing else can be done nothing else will happen you can see it

you check it you can confirm it again and again and again I'll be very happy

to know as an ex Chintu this rule that all actions happen by necessity all actions happen through

the filters of likes and dislikes is pure conditioning that is what mind is

you think mine is something magical no it's a machine it's an object

it's a non-physical object there are no physical objects here may be structured

in layers every layer functions in essentially the same way it is by

necessity it is by program every layer has a corresponding memory where there is a program it is executing exactly

that it is a self programming mechanism so that the incoming experiences they reprogram it and it is always in

accordance with the principle of survival that which sustains the mind

not the body or something else mind the body is in use and throw things for the

mind that which sustains the mind is preferred becomes the program the action

happens according to that conditioning so even though there is no I there is no doer there will be doing there will be

acting how will it be through the conditioning it will be always that

which is necessary it will always be that which the system loves to do where

there are preferences for it I highly recommend you to go and check for the

validity of these statements probably am wrong probably there is something more that we must do

enlightenment does not matter everybody should do these these things probably

you think like this so investigate there is a lot of mess in the world created by

such people who think that one should do this kind of action because I say it because according to my knowledge this

is the right action so everybody must do it and like an idiot then force their

preference on others those who are itsy-bitsy kind they cannot you know

they can force their will on their dog or on their child or on their wife but

somebody who grows a little bit in the in the society attains a position of

power then he can wreck a hillock with this kind of mentality with this ignorance

and fortunately or unfortunately only ignorant people rise to the power person

with knowledge has no interest in these kind of stupid activities to overpower others and all there is one more

interesting thing that when in ignorance we do absolutely unnecessary things when

in knowledge we do only that is most necessary most required this can look as

if it is contradicting my other statements that as the thing must happen

according to necessity so for an ignorant person also this is this must be true so how can I say that that the

ignorant person is doing something which is unnecessary this is big topic in itself you will find the earlier

statements holds that yes even if there is no self realization total ignorance

whatever reactions happen through such a person are also necessary in there also

according to likes and dislikes they also do that which they love to do nobody will disagree with this so how

can I say that the Gani does everything that is necessary if that Gary does you

know totally unnecessary useless things now we need to step down a little more

into the illusion except except there is ignorance there is like this mechanism

in mind then now see some actions harmful to the whole some actions are

violent the very broad sense of the word violence there causing damage to the

whole we are causing damage to the evolution to the Universal Mind the

structure the whole structure and we categorize them as unnecessary this is

probably the third step into the illusion we are going deeper and deeper and so knowing that I am the whole I am

NOT this individual we can categorize these actions as

necessary even though willfully know that they are happening according to the preferences in the mind

they cannot happen in any other way so you can even take one more step into

ignorance and say that do that which ensures your survival which keeps you alive which keeps you happy and free and

while fully knowing that nothing can be done nothing else can be done these are

the objectives of the mind survival is its only action and so in

line with the mind and its preferences this dissolves everything it's very

clear now they should not be any kind of doubt now that oh there is no do we're probably just I'll just sit here and

just breathe you can try that it's not

going to work the individual cannot sit and the Maya won't let him fit this is

like an agreement when we took the farm and that you will need to do something

here I'm giving you this experience of the world of the body of an individual

in the society of individuals now you cannot say no otherwise you don't go

there this is what Maya told us this is what she said Mary signed agreement the

end-user agreement and so you will find it's impossible to sit here you are

always doing something and then over about there is a confusion that no doer

what should I do this is the root of this confusion that you are mixing their fundamental

knowledge with illusion now you have taken up the illusion you have taken up

their lose your body so take up the illusion of the doer also accept it

and you know that nothing else can happen because there is no doers so you accept all the actions that are

happening through this body mind through this individual I don't know what it

will do I don't know whether it is right and wrong there's nothing right nothing wrong and

I don't know what effect it will have on the so-called individual blind no only

one thing that nothing else can happen even if you try to do something else is

kind of impossible this will bring peace to the mind because you are an actor just like a

movie actor if you're you know that you need to act according to the script the script is your own karmic programming so

you're freed from the responsibility now the actor is doing whatever the script the same now the funny thing is you

cannot tell this to the other actors look I killed your brother in the movie then that is because of the script the

other actor is going to fight with you is going to kill you in the movie that

is also written that is his script you cannot cut you cannot complain here so

if you are in the illusion then accept the whole of it not only my part

look I am NOT responsible for my actions because you see it is all happening so yeah the others are also not responsible

and if they you know kill you if they if they do something horrible then they are

also not responsible then it's not only your responsibility that is illusory

everybody's responsibility is illusory Ben so you see it does not work like this you cannot escape this if you are

in the illusion then play the part as if it is real and that is the fun otherwise

the movie it's not worth watching it's not worth acting in that movie that you

don't want to be you go buy the script when you want others to follow their script it's it's not it will be a flop

movie will be total disaster the director will kick you out the director is Maya she does not like

such actors that's why those who are liberated from where they do where they

do not appear in Maya again she does not let them appear again here that is all

forever they're become nothingness there becomes everything now so once there is this mind there will be in usual there will

be structure and it will act according to that structure its conditioning there

are many many layers of conditioning it starts from that which you heard one

second ago to something which you have then which you did a thousand lifetimes

ago and don't even try to dig it out it's very dense it's very deep it's very

complicated in the Karma's very dense the Maya is very complex beyond human

understanding except because you can see

the essence you can see but it must be happening like this essentially you don't need to go into the details some

people are trying to dig out this event happened in my life let me find out the cause you know then they go into

hypnosis something oh this 20 lifetimes ago I did something and what is the use

of this can you prevent it can stop it can you change it is there anybody to

change it is there anybody if it is governing your actions are way your actions look at it

from all possible points a few that we have discussed no matter what you do no matter what kind of stupid PLR things

you do or you believe in all these things there is no such thing actually there is no past life there is no

present life or also for you you are immortal you are a pure emptiness no

lives for you so whatever is happening is an illusion just like in the night dream the dream character appears with a

history and its actions I seem to be willed or if the dream characters happen

happens to be spiritual fellow he will think oh he's happening completely

determined by the memory in the mind the stream is happening let me find out why

this is happening let me go in the mind and check for what reason this is happy and whether I can change it probably

hopefully I can change it I can make the dream better and you can see the

foolishness of the dream character here no matter what he does is in the dream it is going to happen it is already

happened actually you've just been witnessed it has happened in a perfectly deterministic

way so this is the metaphor should not be confused with this illusion of the

waking state it is similar and not exactly the same so we are not exactly a dream character

but something similar is going on it does not matter you cannot change the

actions there's nobody to will the change and there is nobody to intend to

change it's also happening it is also happening according to the need according to the necessity and now after

listening to this there can be many questions like should I should not then cultivate I should not try to improve my

mind I should not behave in a better way I should not be nonviolent should not be

unconditionally loving should not do the right thing now should I

you see these confusing thoughts must be there in your mind now so look at it

from the same angle again that if there is a desire him in your mind to improve

the body or improve the mind improve its behavior then this desire also appeared

out of necessity now nothing else will happen the improvement will happen there's nobody doing it

it is also happening so let it happen if you feel it is necessary yes I should

change my behavior like this I should get rid of all my afflictions of the

mind all my bad habits addictions and attitudes and bad wrong beliefs rotten

believes then yes because necessity has arrived

now now the reprogramming has happened nobody is doing it you cannot do it you

cannot improve anything and some people think there I can improve myself and I can improve the other also I can show them how to behave

in a proper way in a spiritual way and this is the stability of the highest order no you cannot determine your own

actions how can you even think that you can make others act in a specific way

according to your preferences look that is why the Caddy is just sitting here

not trying to improve anybody not interested in in the world not

interested in any charity he does exactly that which happens very funny

statement isn't it yes I am doing it and I am doing it exactly in the way it must

happen I call it my intention I call it my will I call it my like in dislike how does

that matter call it anything you want some people will export their intentions

wills and likes and dislikes into orbit they will launch it there they like to

see something sitting in the sky which is doing all this thing this is distortion of the spiritual teaching the

whole is doing it and then you know and there is this ignorance in ordinary mind the whole must be up there in the sky it

is doing it so yes not my will I am relieved from this responsibility no

it's not your will but you are not also relieved because the responsibility will be taken by the individual and the

society will not leave you like this in spite of all the religious teachings has anything changed in the society can

I escape a crime by saying that oh I did not do it whole did it not my will

what is the judge going to say he will probably sentence you for 200 years

instead of 20 years now because see it's such such a person with this kind of

attitude is big danger to the society who does not want to take responsibility of his actions should be locked away

forever lock him up for two years bag and do the same thing this he thinks is not responsible

they will brand you as lunatic not religious not spiritual so you see Gani

is also taking all the responsibility of his own actions he says yes I did it I

owned this thing yes I married my child there is my responsibility now it is my

responsibility to take care of my family my country my tribe my body my mind I

felt deviated he does it with full enthusiasm does not sit at one place so

there is no doer this will never work there is a difference between what is

true and what works that's why it's called the very knowledge that which you

need to employ in this transactional reality a spiritual knowledge is in is incomplete without the knowledge of the

illusion sometimes your guru will start from the

knowledge of the illusion and he will tell you as if it is true so that is the

path of karma yoga you can recognize it like this do the right thing these these things have a great thing donate serve

forgive defend kill do the needful this

is very funny phrase in India it is found only in Indian English do the needful so it comes from the ancient

wisdom that are the batteries needed will happen so let us do that and the

whole karma yoga is based upon this if you do that which is necessary with full

attention full awareness in most beautiful way you are all related you

don't need any knowledge you don't need any experience you don't need to do the tenth rope and three and reach up

nothing because the sage is the realize that is what is going to happen ultimately you see even if you get it

truckload of knowledge what are you going to do you're going to do that

which is necessary and better do it in the most beautiful way most logical and

rational way if possible what else can you do what is happen viral so confused own and I don't

like this job I don't want to do don't do it then do that which you like ultimately that is what is going to

happen suffering is the indicator that you are not doing that which you like oh no I don't want to be in relate this

relation it is a toxic relation I don't be in the relationship leave the religion suffering is the indicator of

suffering is the red light which once you look now things are going to go bad

better step back from here that is what is necessary and staying there in the

suffering is totally unnecessary so the Guru will teach you these thing is sin

in the path of action that in such a

such way okay don't kill animals don't kill people somebody tries to kill you

kill them and so on always say truth never lie never deceive get what you

want go for pleasure not for pain for sure go for a good body healthy body money

rich prosperity power to go for all these things these are the teachings in

the car poke so probably very shocking for the person who is not on this path

but is it nothing else is possible no matter on which path you are this body

mind is going to do all these things more or less so what the guru is saying do that is necessary do that is that

which you like don't overdo it it has to be done in a beautiful way not in ugly

way not not in the excessive way not like an idiot not in a harmful way not

in a violent way when there is a need the violence needs to be also used in as

beautiful way as possible in this world every organism survives on the dead body

of other organism now try to be less ugly as less ugly as possible in doing

this do that take that which is necessary this is we'll be the teaching now people will

turn this into some cult or religion and then it goes downhill because the

necessary knowledge is lacking if it takes twenty years for the student to

arrive on the path of action then the Guru must take him to the next level

next stage which is look what has been your experience have you done anything

by now the seeker must have realized by himself that no sir

everything happened in the most perfect possible way if not that means now it is

the duty of the Guru to point it out who was doing all these things what do you

think that will be the liberation of the seeker on the path of not action we can

do the same thing by telling the seeker that look there is no do where there is

no actor and you will need to do something this body mind needs flew these things and it must be done in this

way the most necessary in a loving way beautifully which brings happiness and

freedom there is no other goal for the human life do you think impression is

the goal No the mind cannot be liberated you are already liberated that is not

the goal that is the goal for an ignorant person okay achieve the liberation first and this question that

we are discussing you know what to do now is after liberation after

realization there is no brief to liberate so we can do it in the reverse way which is according to my opinion is

is better you don't need to wait twenty years to see you know what what will be

then a result of your perfect actions you can see it now they are all perfect

isn't it they're all perfect don't need to date change even a bit here and there

oh then what about evolution what about cultivation what about my progress freedom from the human life birth in

that's what about the Jeeva don't worry don't worry it's it's all happening is

it's all happening the perfect tree once there is this knowledge can you act in a stupid way

is it possible now can you do something ugly knowingly is it possible

look this is already happened for you it has been taken care it's not in your

hand don't think that you can evolve something there's no you you are not

responsible for your evolution or devolution and there has to be you to responsible but this knowledge will do

it you don't have to worry it will happen it will happen in the most perfect way the most beautiful way only

that which is necessary will happen oh am self-realized am this and that why is

there still suffering why am i suffering then look again you are not suffering

there was this experience of suffering it is because of not doing that which is

which was necessary now correct it and but I have not there I am just a witness

how can it correct you don't know it will correct itself this seed has been planted corrected and the seed will grow

into an action it will terminate in action say it is somewhat complicated if

you think like this but essential stuff is very easy so what needs to see is

that all my assumptions were wrong about the DOOL all my assumptions about the

mind were wrong all my confusion was because of the ignorance which was

implanted by the society you are this you are that you need to do this unit to

behave like that you need to speak like this you need to become like this see

that all this was BS conditioning you gathered it from somewhere now your guru

told you that you see the situation is something else he has now planted the

right seeds guru is also doing the same thing you see what else the mind can do

you need to have a seed there you need to have a condition there is a little bit of refinement of

your ordinary conditioning and then by the ignorant society the Guru has

refined it is little bit planted the right seeds right right karmic seeds and

they will then sprout and they will grow into a more evolved mind it will be the

same thing it would be slightly refined slightly not slightly nicely developed

very well developed mind and will be free will be happy mind there is no

other destination for the mind it is always happiness and freedom all that it

does is for happiness and freedom that is the only necessity bear you think no

it wants to have a good life it wants to have good food and big house and there's

so many mates social status power and land no it only wants happiness and

freedom these are its actions that's all results of actions this is what happens

by necessity the main things that can continuing in this body when this mind

is going to bring me happiness and so it does it there's also happening - a city it likes it it loves to be a life

function here in the world that is why it is God in this cycle of deaths and

births do you think it does not want it there are preferences as long as there

are preferences it will keep doing it the Guru refines those those preferences

you see the mind is such a funny thing that it cannot be uprooted easily it

will not give up the old preferences for nothing it wants something better it

wants more happiness and freedom so the Guru gives you exactly that look bliss take the Bliss don't go for the petty

pleasures of the world I am giving you something bigger so if you meditate you will be in the blissful state that's

what you know that is the hook that the Guru throws in the water

the fish you'd be free you'll be a little bit liberated you will attain the good birth next life this is what guru

is telling you it isn't the thing it is all lies you see it gives the mind something to hold on so it lets go the

lower tendencies it cannot let go of the Preferences because then what kind of

mind it is it won't be a mind then so slowly the Guru is bringing in the seeker out of this gross mind to a

refined mind and then finally no mind in the complete dissolution of the mind on

the path of knowledge we do it in five minutes look you are not the mind you

need to simply take a look that is not me that the mind does not remain there although it keeps functioning illusion

remains there is a good metaphor in the ancient texts about this if you burn a

rope it still looks like a rope it still has those curves made up of ash but now

you cannot use it to tie anything it is useless ineffective so same for a seeker

on the path of knowledge again he the mind is burnt away like a burnt rope it is totally illusory now what can it

tie you free freed from the ropes there is a better mentor fairer which is of a

movie met when you were a small child you thought that whatever is happening

on the screen is real all these demons and people they are real and I remember

myself I used to get very very frightened or when people were trying on this thing I used to start crying also

because I thought something bad has happened there nothing it is it was real because of the ignorance that that is a

movie for a child no difference for a child my like mind no difference between

illusion and reality so we are afraid here we cry here we laugh here we enjoy

this illusion termined ously because there is this ignorance that it is real

otherwise we won't we won't be able to enjoy it so as you grow up you know that these

movies they're fake you still enjoy them don't you but you you're not affected by them not

that much same thing and the person on the panels not match yours out of the

world no not no more affected but totally in it totally enjoying it and the enjoyment is both negative and

positive there's both pain and pleasure there is duality and he says so what can

there be a movie without good and bad in it that will be utterly boring movie he where nothing happens will the character

still you then look this is a movie don't watch us director we'll bring in the camera in the frame look this is the

camera we are shooting the movie who is going to watch that movie the whole effort of movie moviemaking is to create

a convincing reality as convincing as possible their viewer is fully engrossed

in it fully trapped in the movie and then it is a good movie my eyes a good

director she deserves an Oscar for the best movie of all time we are in the

movie we are both the actors and the Watchers

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