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hello and welcome to pure experiences
online satsang this satsang is a meeting
an opportunity for everyone to ask their
questions
clear their doubts and discuss the
spiritual matters and this is also a
part of the program the path of
knowledge program
ruchika is asking out of syllabus
questions yes
you're welcome
first is how can you understand devi
shakti what is the real idea how can we
accelerate your spiritual progress by
taking her grace
see on the path of knowledge whatever is
appearing is devi the illusion is devi
the
experience
part is they whatever we call as
experience
is devi and
the memory is devi the layered structure
is devi the vibrations the
the manifested
unmanifested devi maya is devi yes
so how to know what is she open your
eyes and look that is darshan of the
devi
open your eyes and look whatever you're
looking at is nothing but devi
whatever you're listening to eating
smelling bodies worlds baby you don't
need to go to a temple or you don't need
to project to some other world of the
baby to know what she is she is here
right now front of your eyes this is the
real idea
yes you can make it image of her you can
you know identify various kinds of
energies there shakti means only energy
baby means energy
you can
classify them and make pretty pictures
and symbolism and all that is possible
but
unnecessary that is unnecessary
just
study the illusion when we study the
illusion we are studying the device you
want her grace yes it is possible there
are ways
to do that there is one very simple way
is to be surrendered that is the path of
devotion
have devotion towards devi surrender to
the
second is the path of the tantra or the
occult where you take favors from the
devil for that you need a lot of
knowledge and practice
surrender needs nothing so
according to your
inclination according to your wish
you approach the baby like this if you
are a woman except devi
i mean if you are a woman and you take
the occult path
accept devi as your mother if you are a
man you can accept the devi as your wife
that is there are two forms that are
mostly accepted
do not try to diverge too much from the
tradition does not work
you need a good teacher and the teacher
will tell you how to worship the devi
there are rituals and also on you see
but mostly it is non-physical mostly
your practice will be non-physical
because you will understand that the
devi does not like to be troubled in the
physical form she becomes angry when you
try to manipulate the physical world
because she has taken the pains to
establish the physical world it is
the
her her greatest achievement is
formation of the physical universe that
is what she has done now if you want to
interact with her you know leave the
physical world alone that is my
recommendation do not manipulate
anything here you just worship her and
go to her go to her in the purest form
that is the non-physical form there
everything that you want will be granted
and like she said uh how to
accelerate our spiritual progress
yes demand that you you uh please the
devi and you demand her the spiritual
growth spiritual progress she will do
whatever is necessary to cause this
progress
if you
anger her she will do whatever is
necessary to keep you from progressing
she will actually your progress
and send you back in the lower
lower forms like he said is it possible
yes you anger the devi and she will do
it you see you get all these powers and
all by the grace of devi now you start
misusing them in the physical world
she will senses sense it immediately and
you will be sent to the lower worlds you
know she won't even
recycle you to the animal forms she will
take the extreme measure and you will be
sent to the hellish worlds okay go and
do your sadhana there
she is kind of brutal in that matter
kali form is really brutal so if you you
don't have a teacher then you will make
these mistakes
and if you have a teacher there is some
chance that you will
you will be given the grace of the devi
so on the path of knowledge we have a
middle man i'm telling ruchika on the
path of knowledge we have a middleman
where you don't need to deal with the
devi directly and that middle man is the
guru field
you can request guru field to ask devi
to do something the command they you can
say they are not command but they have a
deal with devi then we won't do this
thing to your worlds but you do
something for our seekers this kind of
deal is there
your interface with the guru field is
initially your guru so ask your guru if
you want spiritual progress
ask your guru he will do whatever is
necessary once you grow up a little bit
as the guru field bypass the guru who is
in the body you see
i simply ask the guru field nowadays
like i said you know there is a guru
control room here and there is a
direct link to the satellite link to the
guru field i ask whatever i need from
them and they do the processing there it
appears in the world many people will
see this many people will get this
experience that as soon as they interact
with me as soon as the wish is put there
for their progress
they will start appearing in their lives
which means events will start happening
very odd event sometimes
and this is the process that we follow
once you grow up you interact directly
with the
guru field
and you if you grow up in that also you
know you become a great seeker then you
can approach the devi in which i help
also i help you to simply you know
i bring you face to face with the devi
but not everybody you need to go through
the path of knowledge first you see
there are a lot of secrets in between
which nobody will come to know
i can see your tendencies and i can tell
you that you know what happened in your
past lives and all and then i decide
what should we do
so
interact with me open up give everything
that you have to me then i'll come to
know what to do with you do not try to
you know simply worship devi in the
mother form or five form do not you will
fail and you will make mistakes
always the best idea is always to take
the help of your guru and if the guru
says i belong to this path of knowledge
and something i cannot do anything then
you take the permission from
your guru
and you
consult somebody who is on the local
path especially the independent kind of
tantra not the dependent kind that is
not suitable for somebody on the path of
knowledge so probably
it was too much out of syllabus isn't it
probably many people will not understand
what i just said
so don't worry don't worry your path of
knowledge is open for you you walk on
the path of knowledge
and we'll see what should we do later on
get the basics we'll see what can be
done later on
right now you concentrate on the path of
knowledge that is my advice
okay number two is why kundalini
awakening experience is a completely
different for one person to another
sometimes it gets really confusing is it
real or just made up and hyped up
see
the layered structure is different for
the other
different people the reason is very
simple that everybody is different so
they produce different reactions there
the same process will produce different
reaction you see it is
not at all mysterious like
you
treat somebody badly and you will find
that everybody has a different reaction
you say the same insult to 10 people and
you will get 10 reactions from them
some one person will walk away the other
person will try to kill you the the
third person will start crying fourth
will become angry you see why they have
a different mental makeup they have
different impressions everybody is
different
essentially they are same but you know
the manifestation is different there are
layers there is a layered structure in
everybody
but
it has stored different kind of
experiences you see
so
you
give the same food to all people and
you'll see their bodies are reacting
differently to that food everybody has
their own food and similarly the doctors
know that
the same medicine will have different
effects in different patients they know
it very well so why not kundalini
that is
completely related with the layered
structure of memory
what is kundalini it is you know just a
force that makes the changes in the
layered structure that's all it is it is
the devi as it is manifesting in the
layered structure so there are certain
points where she does the most work
they are called the chakra points we are
not going to go there today and that is
totally different for different people
and she does exactly that which is
needed and you know one side size is not
going to fit all so she does exactly
that
sometimes you will be surprised at how
much this force knows about your mind
and body so what do we say
when she is working surrender surrender
just sit down and watch don't try to do
too much
so is it made up and hyped up
and there are different kind of people
you see some people keep it very very
secret like they don't want anybody to
interfere in this process and the guru
also tells you not to tell anybody that
is people are
kind of crazy they don't know what is
happening and
there is a me too syndrome like i call
it me too syndrome in the spirituality
if it is happening to somebody else it
must happen to me also
the expectation rises hopes rises like
this he saw a snake i did not see a
snake i should go and hunt for a snake
my life is not complete if i don't see a
snake
so
crazy people here and they
make up these things they make up the
stories a tiny bit happens to them and
they cook up spice it up imagine things
so if you are not under a guru you will
find people talking like this this
happened to me that happened to me and
so on you see they became in my dream
when she did this and it's all
just useless talk those who are really
serious about the content practice they
don't say even one word they don't say
it
because you know the nature of the devi
she likes privacy she likes secrecy if
you make a story in you know tell it to
everybody and become the gopi krishna of
the modern time no no no no no she will
become angry
who should know what is she doing you
and your guru nobody else not your
family nobody nobody so yes
when i see this kind of disaster
happening i can only slap my head only
you see because these people don't
listen to me also you have a guru no i'm
doing the kundalini practice and she is
doing that why are you telling me then
i'm not your guru also so
very bad situation there
which she's asking kundalini awakening
you see it is already awakened what you
call kundalini awakening is
only kundalini quickening quickening she
becomes quicker she lives faster and
you know it is awake in everybody devi
is present and she's active without
activity we'll be all dead
asakta is saying most of today's famous
non-duality direct path teachers are of
the lineage of trinity
raman maharshi
maharaja and athman krishna menon all
three were religious mocks the holy ash
traditional abductions always worship
deities also in other non-dual
traditions like said they all had
devotion to the gurus if not a deity
lit lamp
could you explain does it mean devotion
bhakti in some form is essential
well
human nature is the explanation human
nature and i don't think that they have
only three lineages there are many you
see the dashnami tradition is the
biggest in the world
whenever you see swami written in front
of somebody's name that is dash nami
tradition founded by adishan karachary
that is the greatest biggest and they
don't
they don't you know relate to raman
maharshi or anybody you mentioned you
see they are the keepers of the non-dual
knowledge swami tradition you can call
them swami tradition if you want there
are ten kinds
they have a surname in front of them by
that surname you can recognize the which
one of the ten paths they are
groups they are in the path is same
groups are different
so traditions were made and to identify
that their own tradition like the
cricket teams you know one team is blue
and the other team is the green and the
other team is red
so they made the teams and they have
this
markings and
you are going to wear the orange clothes
and these people they will be black
clothes and these monks they will be
maroon and yellow so they have their own
traditions and that is
just to
have this team spirit in them maybe and
these
marks you call them religious marx
nothing to do with religion
nothing to do with religion they are
ritualistic
in india we don't have any religion
there is no religion here there is no
god here there is no worship here there
are only paths
only different paths
most of the paths are atheistic
so
whatever they are doing they are doing
it for a purpose not to please some god
or goddess they are worshipping deities
yes that is also part of the tradition
that i recommend
you know there are some people can't let
go of the old oh i have this temple in
my house and i worship all these deities
and i i want to worship i feel very nice
i say okay okay worship you know nothing
wrong in that realize that it is an
illusion and worship the illusion you
know who is stopping you but then i say
okay okay put
the photo of a traditional guru there
whomever you like or put picture of him
and put a picture of or a statue of
saraswati there i recommend saraswati
worship her she is going to help you
so
no problem at all they are symbolic in
nature so it depends on the tradition
you know whom they worship we worship
saraswati if you want to worship
otherwise don't even pay attention to
these things it's totally unnecessary
what is worship on the path of knowledge
you just say thank you that is the
worship you just ask for the cooperation
support you say thank you
do not ask for gold or
jobs or children or marriages do not
saraswati won't give you all these
things
there are different forms for if you
want worldly if you want to fulfill your
worldly desires
you have spiritual desires yes then
these deities can help you and mostly it
is the master
who is worshipped like you said devotion
to the guru yes because master is your
life jacket here in this sea of
ignorance the only boat that you have
that will take you to the shore is your
guru now i'm totally against worship of
the guru
that somebody called me holy master and
i was kind of
thrown off completely so
no we need not worship the guru we need
to use the guru and then you have some
respect for the guru that is all
do not print out the photo of the guru
and you know start putting the incense
in front of them and uh don't don't
don't do that it is not recommended
those who are who are doing it they are
lost they are lost now you can worship
the devi this
it seems natural you are washing
worshipping somebody who has a human
body that feels unnatural
what happens is
the fake ones they like it a lot the
fake gurus like this guru worship a lot
and they will make their devotees or
students worship themselves that is why
i am totally against it
if your guru is alive
no no need to even give him anything
that is strictly followed in some
traditions like sikh tradition where the
guru in the body is totally stupid
discarded completely i don't know how
they manage them so
these things happen because of the
craziness of people it is not a part of
the tradition we do not worship gurus
as soon as
you say you call me more than guruji or
something i'm going to you know ban you
from the satsang i'm totally against
this thing you know it has been misused
so much in india the guru worship is
misused so much that there are cults now
there are terrorist groups in the name
of gurus and who knows what is going on
so does it does the devotion bhakti is
essential no you see surrender is
essential you need to be surrendered to
the knowledge you should have this
willingness to listen that is the only
devotion that is expected do not treat
your guru like a god you know i mean he
he's important but
should be
there should be line between
these things here you should should draw
a line it should not cross that line it
was a nice satsang and i hope everybody
enjoyed it everybody got their answers
and
hopefully you are enjoying the program
also and i'll meet you next time thank
you very much for attending the meeting
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