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if survival happens in total falsehood
how is it useful if our life which means
our survival the biology happens in
total falsehood the world is false the
body is false the mind is false the
whole creature is false an illusion what
is the use of it actually akash is
saying progress
progress of false is also false isn't it
progress will not become true yes
benjamin is saying there is a
possibility of discovering what really
is
yes very good answer by benjamin the
false has the potential to know the
truth that is something amazing isn't
making opportunity for not for knowledge
yes representing learning is yeah these
two answers essentially are equal to
benjamin's answer but deep is saying an
awareness results in individual which is
falsehood survival helps in knowing
oneself yes
the
use of false
is simply knowing that this is false the
use of the individual is simply in
knowing that i am an illusion and it
simply dismisses itself simply takes
leave from the stage anybody else
wants to add to this
drama falsehood legit evolution which
may finally help in liberation yes i
agree this thing is false but it evolves
up to the point where the truth can be
recognized
and some people can argue that it's not
completely false the appearance means it
is my own form although it is appearing
as something totally fake
it's not that false it's it's not there
is that this totally absent
some people can argue like this as you
approach non-duality as you approach
purity the answers are less defined
the answers can be many there can be
many points of views there is no surety
certainty so anyhow akshata is saying
with the help of the body we can know
the truth yes
that which cannot know itself takes a
false appearance to somehow reflect
itself in it so
even though we keep saying that you know
it's totally false the world is false
and the body is false do not get
attached to it and so on without it
there is nothing actually
which is bigger experiencer or the
existence and this is another tricky
question very tricky question
and this is designed to bring out the
ignorance in the person that the
experiencer is connected to the
individual because those who are still
thinking that i have my own private
experiencer just like i have my own tv
in the house in my own car and my own
driver who drives the car
i have my own servant experiencer whose
job is to experience everything some
people think like this
and this question is designed to bring
out that ignorance never see the
experiencer as connected to the body or
to the individual
it has no relation at all these things
are objects
so
existence is the experiencer not the
individual
it may appear like this to this
ignorance individual
the ego claims the experience that also
just like it can claim anything isn't it
if it wishes it can claim
everything is mine like it can claim the
land as mine isn't it so it can as well
say the air is mine and it can say the
rain is mine the cloud and the sky above
my land is also mine like the countries
claim their airspace isn't it that the
space above my land is mine
there is no end of stupidity of the ego
it can claim the experiencer or the
existence as me and myself it's not like
this at all there is no me
now next question vibration is change
and what is changing very frequently
asked question so i'm going to ask the
group again about satsang what is
changing what is the claim that give me
the change give me the smallest change
and i can give you the whole creation
this is the claim once the vibration is
given then it is very easy to explain
the whole illusion it is easy to
manipulate it also into anything but
when what is changing there somebody
knows
akshita is saying experiences we we
always say that the vibrations are the
cause of the experiences the vibrations
are picked up by the senses
and then they are turned into
experiences this is the theoretical
question obviously the experiences
appear to change it appears to change
benjamin is saying there is only change
without anything changing very good but
very cryptic
nobody will understand this thing
surprising potential potential is always
potential nothing happens in the
potential that is the definition of the
potential we can say that the potential
has ability to manifest some kind of
change if the potential change then it
it won't remain a potential isn't it it
will become actual registering
possibilities that that is again
potential only akash is saying
what do you mean
you need to speak in english we have a
different terminology here rajiv is
saying nothing is changing it is only an
illusory appearance that something is
changing very good very good that this
is good answer i think rajiv's answer
then why do we say there is there are
vibrations but saying emptiness is
infinite potential even change can be
there yes
although you know we don't understand at
least i don't understand it how the
potential can cause a change but
it is there what can we do
with the plan change is perceived due to
comparisons of memory there is no change
actually yes comparison of memory is a
very good explanation of change because
you know there is no time so there
cannot be change this is the fundamental
observation of everybody all of you
will agree that there is no time
so how can there be change because
change requires time so first there is
potential they are compared you know
there is a possibility of comparison and
the change is perceived and out of the
change
a difference is perceived i'm sorry
and out of the difference change and
time both are created actually
everything is static the dynamic thing
is
simply
you can say a series of comparisons
but
at least i don't understand
how this is being done so probably if we
research more will
we can dig it out we can explore it more
so far i have reached this much you know
whatever bit of panic said i have
reached this this much depth of it and
nick is saying this is a model for the
illusion we can only say there is change
but there is no substance only emptiness
it is unknowable yes ultimately we need
to rest our intellect and we can simply
let go it is what it is cannot be known
okay but the best question experiencer
shines the activity that i am the
experiencer experiencer also shines
anything that appears as it is the
conscious presence what is the internal
state of existence with respect to above
how
out of three terms that is experiencing
or turia or experience or which one we
can call as eternal
which one we can call as the eternal
state of existence that is
now purely matter of choice isn't it
purely matter of what people think about
it we can call it anything if you want
but i have called it the experiencing as
you know experiencing is the only state
just now we said and therefore we
sometimes say there is only experiencing
we drop the word state also state of
what you will say state of what
existence is never without experiencing
they are the same actually one and the
same so state of existence just to calm
down the intellect a little bit oh there
is something but what is it doing people
ask human question they need to know
what everybody is doing in their
neighborhood so existence
what is it doing experiencing that is
the only state but it is experiencing
only i mean as a noun not as a verb
nothing is doing anything it is being
experiencing
partier is saying actually in one video
it is said awareness and deep sleep is
the eternal state of existence
yes yes there can be
more explanations of the state of the
existence
what is what does it mean that look the
the states like waking and projecting
and whatever they are like bubbles of
dream that happen in the background of
deep sleep and the deep sleep is simply
a state of experiencing only
we have changed its name with respect to
the states of the mind so this view is
very good as soon as you are in the
duality when the student is has not
reached non-duality this can be a good
explanation because there can be a
question you see
sometimes the existence appear as me in
this human in the waking state sometimes
it appears in the dream state or
projected state or sleep state
any other state so what is its
fundamental state and this is we are
still in the duality here and this
answer is
satisfactory in that case but when you
asked
as from the perspective of the
experience everything like what it is
then is it being the experiencer is it
doing the experiencing or
is
busy creating stuff whatever so in that
case
we always say that they are all equal
these all words are equal
experience their experience experiencing
existence
they are names of one
and yes the same thing is in deep sleep
and awareness and whatever
same some people are going to explain
samadhi has deep sleep equal to deep
deep sleep there are some kinds of
samadhis where the thoughts stop where
all the activity stops it looks like it
is stopped it is it goes very deep it
becomes minute so they will they will
say it is like awareness in deep sleep
now i have become pure existence
especially in buddhism this notion is
there they will say that you need to
know the emptiness
do this one exercise do this practice
try to reach that final level where
there is no activity at all and you will
witness the true state in adword we say
look don't bother about these things and
this is
our current state is samadhi
the mental activity does nothing at all
to the emptiness
realize it is not there you don't need
to do any practice then so depending on
the inclination of the seeker or the
student something is told you see
different views in different
traditions
every tradition will assign different
states
also but
finally in that way we say that they're
all illusory states the final state is
that which is most natural how to come
in that state in this very easy you
don't need to come in at any state it's
always there and i like this idea a lot
very lazy idea isn't it you don't need
to do anything to be in the absolute
state just know
and i agree completely you must have
seen the trend uh on the path of
knowledge or especially in the adu
tradition that
anything that you try to do or try to be
or try to
get is already there all all that was
shown was you know drop your ignorance
it is already there oh let me do this
guruji drop your ignorance is already
there i want to be this i drop your
ignorance you're already this the same
way when the student goes and tells the
guru i want to be in this ultimate state
and he says drop your ignorance you're
already there
you must have seen this trend here so i
think we can blindly believe now that
yes my state is absolute already without
counting the
levels of the mind without
counting the illusory state that we need
to get rid of first
to come in thuriya or whatever ramadi i
am very happy being what is right now
right here
this gives final rest this gives you the
biggest peace possible it is now eternal
vacation for a seeker enjoy
that is why the definition of the final
state is so important if you defined it
wrongly you will try to achieve it and
i'm pretty sure you will never get it
and radha is saying awareness never
differentiates between good and bad is
it the conclusion when compared to other
paths
i'm trying to understand your question
but no i don't think even when you
compare with the other paths we never
conclude like this actually we say
exactly opposite that when when you are
in awareness you will clearly know the
difference between good and bad without
awareness you're following your
conditioning isn't it with awareness
knowledge
intelligence the difference will be made
clear day and night that is the
conclusion how did you got this kind of
confusion i don't know did you did you
hear me saying this thing somewhere
yes we stay as witness as there's no
doubt about it but when it comes to
action we prefer
something which is good by we i mean
this creature the human the witness
never does anything as you know
simply witnessing the witness has no
preference witness has no preference
the witness does not differentiate the
experiencer by witness we mean the
experiencer
it has absolutely no bias towards
anything pure but awareness means
some kind of knowledge isn't it which is
in the mind now this mind has a
preference it wants to do one action it
does not want to do the other actions it
has this the awareness simply
illuminates look what is going on in the
mind it does not do more than that then
the mind itself decides what is good and
what is bad
yes the conditioning can leak into it a
little bit but after few repetitions
new impressions are formed new
conditioning happens which overrides the
old which was not so wholesome which was
causing suffering and so on so this is
how the
knowledge of the experiencer actually
brings about a change in the creature
although the experiencer is not
concerned it remains unaffected by what
the creature is doing or whether it is
changing for the good or not this
benefit
is taken by the creature the jiva or the
individual
even awareness is not going to
do the differentiation it is going to
illuminate the activity that is going on
that is preferring one action over the
other that's illuminated
and the intellect can catch it see
whether it is really good or bad
otherwise people who are unaware without
any knowledge they are simply propelled
into action like impulsive people
whatever is their thought is their
speech and is their action there's no
gap there is no analysis they do not
stop they do not analyze
do not foresee the consequences so
awareness simply gives you pause that
look watch
even if you stop for two minutes in
there there can be change in the
behavior this is something different
from the learned behavior which we say
our conditioning you can be trained to
say sorry and thank you and you know so
on and you can see people are just
robotically saying it but you can
realize the difference when the person
is really sorry and really thankful then
you can see in their eyes there is
awareness there
the awareness overrides the conditioning
this is the magical thing about
awareness how can it lead to the good
behavior or good kind of conduct there
is assumption that that which is good is
already known by us even at the level of
mind it knows
what is the good action the thing is
because of the impressions and the
conditioning is not able to do it
somehow that habit forces it to do
whatever was imprinted there now the
stopping gives a chance for the
ingrained goodness in us to arise
some people say it's like this
there can be difference of opinion here
also but yes i have seen that people the
preference of people change
without training without telling them
look this is good this is bad you don't
need to tell them it happens
automatically
and
it happens in my case also sometimes my
conditioning forces me to do something
and then repenting happens automatically
when the awareness arises finally there
is total knowing that you know whatever
happened was not
good who told me it is not good nobody
there is something inside us
which already knows what is good what is
not
awareness gives it a chance to arise in
the intellect if it is well developed
then prefers it overwrites the lower
layers it's very simple the mechanism is
very simple so in common language we say
see and then do think and then do
understand and then do don't simply jump
into doing this is you know wise men say
like this old men because they have a
lifetime time of experience of
making mistakes so hopefully anuradha
has confusion is cleared
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