https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mdme_5e_94
it is seen after abiding the nature
again
backfires with full force demanding
again too much involvement and overtakes
can it be considered as ignorantly
seeping in yes
so very good question there just like i
said we can continue the discussion that
nature overpowers this
individual there is no individual there
is no will but we can forget about these
things because totally practical issues
here so the nature will put put you to
sleep that is that is what you are
calling is backfire and the stronger the
desires are the pending desire so they
are very strong the sleep will be more
frequent and will be deeper and once
this
all this is settled when the dust is
settled you wake up again
what happened there i forgot to be in
knowledge now my guru is going to very
angry i wasted my two years and so on
but by the time nature has done her job
whatever was spending
so to avoid this kind of extremes what
do we do i mean i have told this many
many times fulfill your desires think
that they are my desires and fulfill
fully knowing they are not mine and i
don't have any control over the fruits
of these desires so
it will not backfire that much
it is like a steam engine you see or you
can say pressure cooker if you let out
the steam time to time it is not going
to cause
explosion of ignorance there will be ups
and downs which is very very normal we
have no
we we are not that stubborn that i want
awareness 24 by 7 non-stop otherwise
i'll do something bad to the nature no
it's not possible that is ignorance
again it settles down on its own
on the one hand you have the body mind
full of desires
on the other hand you have the
experiencer neutral peaceful blissful
has nothing now extremes is to be
avoided both should happen with tiny
amount of you know the pressure builds
up you neutralize it somehow and the
mother nature will let you kindly to
remain in awareness isn't it
we have this delusion this creature has
this delusion that i can command
awareness no it comes automatically and
it goes automatically the abiding even
that is not in our hands our means this
illusory individual does not do anything
so that should be understood and then
you remain peaceful instead of you know
waging a war with the nature it's not
possible to win actually so always an
agreement
i have told this many times isn't it
that if you find a desire there not it
is not to be suppressed because there is
nobody to suppress first of all and if
the intellect has some kind of
distortion it will try to suppress and
then you know what happens especially if
the means are provided it must be
fulfilled that means its time has come
it was nesting to happen
and then the fruits must be taken but
also being in a pose of surrender at
least you have little bit of control
over the actions and desires but you
don't have any control over the fruits
and that should be a major question
instead of what should i do when abiding
stops automatically how can i stop the
ignorance from coming back these
questions are childish the big question
is can i avoid the fruit of my actions
when this happens
and the answer is no they also must be
surrendered
it isn't they are not my fruits you see
this abidance should be there at the
time also because nature will do its
thing you see ultimately it wins and if
you forget to
be in awareness
when the fruits are coming that is very
bad
their nature is not saying that you
don't abide there the nature is not
clouding your vision now
so
you have full freedom to observe the
fruits knowing fully that they are not
mine and the actions that happened in
darkness were also not mine you see the
awareness is independent of time you can
clear that accumulation that happened in
darkness in the time of light it's
possible
this is called repenting
some of the traditions repent or it was
an error and so on but
we don't call it like this we say
forgiveness
forgive yourself because it is not you
who is doing it
they should be together
so if you fail to be in awareness at the
time of action at least you should be
aware during the time of fruits so it is
not the actions that are painful it is
the fruit
it is not the action that binds you it
is the fruit that binds you especially
if it is positive the bondage is
complete perfect if it is negative there
will be a reason to detach but if it is
positive you're gone like a fly on the
fly trap where it is sweet some kind of
sticky sugary thing and the fly wants it
but it's trapped so the suffering is a
blessing in disguise it freezes but the
happiness traps us
so all these fruit should be seen
equally while being in awareness and
they should should be seen as not mine
and that brings the equanimity
automatically
as long as you consider the fruits as
yours action is not mine i am not
responsible but the fruit is mine so
that is a big problem then that means
that ignorance is not really gone you
are still in the night time the day has
not
started for you
so we should avoid the extremes so that
the fruits are not extreme that much can
be done you see any intelligent person
will do that
it is like if you are very hungry you
overeat and then that is not pleasant
and the hunger extreme hunger was also
painful and this overeating that
happened also painful to avoid these
things what do we do keep eating little
bit
bite by bite
birthday saying so probably the question
is
can can the
guess of the person about
the seeker can it go wrong so you see it
is best to simply ask the seeker what is
his problem and not rely upon
supernatural stuff highly unreliable
it can be used as a assistant but not
not as a diagnosis
highly unreliable
instead of touching that person
simply ask him what is the problem where
he's stuck what is his desire it will be
very easy
i i'd always do that even though
sometimes you will come to know some
things but
still don't use them as final evidence
your direct experience is your evidence
yes if the fellow says that i don't know
what i want then it is the job of the
teacher to guide it is not the job of
the teacher to give him a want that will
be burden okay carry my wish on your
head no no the job of the teacher is to
guide if if there is no want then
obviously he's in the wrong place the
desire for spirituality has not is not
present there and without this desire
nobody can do anything you see we cannot
simply
assign him a desire look this desire is
the best for you go on the power of
knowledge study everything
and you will see the results are not so
good the person will not stay there for
long so all that can be done is you know
try to bring a little bit of curiosity
trying to show their ignorance look you
have this kind of ignorance but i cannot
do much you need to find your guru you
need to find your path and let him
wander here and there explore some
things and once the desire is there then
they can be put to work they can be
given the work which is simply to remove
the ignorance you see on this path find
out the ignorance find out your
assumptions and superstitions and
whatever remove them become pure
this is what they should want but they
don't know
just like i said the darkness is
complete the ignorant person does not
know how much ignorance there is
that is why there are other paths you
see besides the direct path why are
there other paths and this is the reason
people don't know what they want so they
keep looking here and there even if the
guru is sitting in front of them and
telling them the truth they will always
find an excuse to do something else
because the ignorance is complete
yes it's very
um
useful to send that person to any other
part you know where he can find a
meaning purpose a
goal mohan is asking i see that most of
my actions are driven by desires want
for something i have noticed that
without desire i mostly end up with
inaction can there be any action without
desire no there cannot be any action
without desire you see desire is the
motivating force
in the universe
it is also called the will will of the
universe so whatever whatever you are
thinking is my actions not your actions
and whatever you're thinking is my
desires it's not your desire so if they
if they are not there no action will
happen which is perfectly okay it's not
our problem then
if there is a desire action will happen
not my my problem it's not mine witness
it witness the action and witness the
inaction because both are impermanent
they do not last and many people will
say inaction is also action because you
have decided to not do anything there
the desire is don't do any of your usual
things sit quietly is the desire
you see the desire cannot be avoided
there is never a time when there is no
desire it's never a time
you must be thinking today i've done a
lot of work lot of action now it's time
to relax and sleep for eight hours you
know that is the desire then the desire
is to sleep and relax and that is what
will happen that is the action
whatever you are thinking as
procrastination is simply resistance to
whatever
impression has are stored in the mind
you know there is internal fight there
the impressions are telling you to not
do anything and probably there is a fear
that i'll fail if i don't do anything or
there will be bad time ahead if i don't
do anything and so on or the intel
intelligence it is fighting back so
and then there is not anything to do
with desire or action that is a sign of
darkness in you that is a sign of total
ignorance
somebody with knowledge is pretty much
certain of what to do
if he wants in action there will be
inaction which is already in action
isn't it but he will never twist it to
mean as procrastination that means
that
distortion has happened in the mind that
that means there is an internal tangle
there
because a person in the knowledge is
very happy when there is nothing to do
very happy
and if there is work to do he is very
happy that finally it will get done
there is desire now
so the one in the bliss will find the
bliss in everything and the one in
ignorance has nothing but suffering
he will is going to suffer the action he
is going to suffer the inaction that is
guaranteed
rajat is saying how can we go beyond
time what is karma in gyan the
experiencer is already beyond time and
the creature cannot go beyond time it is
it it operates in time
and what is karma in ganmar it is simply
storage of a memory whatever actions are
done they are stored in the memory
that's all it is
paramjit is saying i actually interact
with mother nature very good
there is no creature here which does not
interact with mother nature if you are
breathing you are interacting with
nature only if you are eating nature
only your whole life is
natural only and you are the nature also
probably you're thinking that by nature
i mean the green plants and waterfalls
hills and mountains no i don't mean that
everything is nature only and
everybody's interacting with nature
there's nobody nothing special yes it is
all the illusion and those who are
interacting with it they are also
illusions so what helps on the path of
knowledge is interacting with the guru
which is also nature but a different
kind of nature nothing else will help
you and those who have guru they don't
need anything else
no need of nature you can remain in city
you can you know whatever is your
definition of nature completely forget
it
follow the instructions that will be
helpful on the path of knowledge
how do i know i did the same thing you
see
rajit is asking how non-living thing and
living being related to each other they
are different layers of the mind or we
say they are different layers of the
memory the non-living is the bottom
layer and the living thing when it
assembles into complex structure we call
it living it is the higher layer so all
mind
rajat is asking how can i know secrets
of nature see there are no secrets the
one who is on the right path there are
no secrets it is all open we know
everything on the path of knowledge
nothing is left a secret those who have
eyes they can see everything
suraj is saying i think there is certain
change in my intellect because thinking
patterns are hugely changed there is
will to express what is known and i
sometimes and i rarely express with
friends and later i realized that it was
not favorable to do that how to control
this
actually this tendency is very good the
only your audience is not
well equipped to handle what you know
so my suggestion is
start directing your will towards those
who really need it isn't it there is no
need to control it like you have excess
money and you want to give it isn't it
very good thing you want to donate the
money now don't give it to those who
don't need it give it to the beggars
give it to the poor people those who
have talent but but no money no
opportunity there should be help first
which means those who are worthy they
should be given so what is my suggestion
you finish the program step number seven
you contact me again i'll tell you where
to direct this energy that you have
because i know this is natural when the
bowel is full it starts spilling it's
very natural so what do we do we channel
it towards those who need it that is the
only way choose your audience very
carefully
and
meanwhile there is another good idea
that we have this group now
and there are many more groups
so
whenever you get the urge to discuss
something spiritual you come in the
group and discuss in our pure
experiences group or some other group
here everybody will welcome you in the
world
worldly people don't like these things
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