Duality, Gurus & Seekers, manifestation

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBczovaf3EY

what are pure experiences

experience is not clouded by ignorance

what is the ideal thing to do in a

moment

do that which is necessary actually it

is easier do not do that which is

unnecessary and that which is necessary

will happen that which is which must

happen ideally will happen stop doing

that which is totally unnecessary

ishri shwarpuri said consciousness

always creates experiences opposite to

our true nature so that we can enjoy or

appreciate what we have

that's why we have suffering pain and

certainty in the world please throw some

light on this

this is very poetic poetic way of saying

that the duality exists so that we can

appreciate the positivity

the negativity exists so that we know

the meaning of positivity

so why is there suffering so that we can

know happiness

we can know happiness

why is there pain so that we know the

value of pleasure so on

without the darkness you won't know the

value of

light without the bad

food you won't know the pleasure of

eating good food

so that is the meaning here

there is some benefit there is some

use of negative experiences

you don't know what is bad you will

not recognize what is good

so if you get something which is good

yes now you will appreciate what you got

same thing about ignorance if you all

you have ignorance you won't appreciate

the value of knowledge so ignorance is a

way to

get us to the knowledge and then see the

value of it and if this experience is

not given then the value will not be

seen so there can be

opinions you know why is there no better

way

why can't we know the value of happiness

without suffering and so on you see

right now right here it is like this so

i accept it there is no point in

imagining things when they are not there

the experience is dual it is by

necessity it cannot be anything

and the effect of duality is that there

are opposites so hopefully

you got the answer and his style is not

so direct he uses metaphors stories and

so on but still it is very very clear it

is more clear than any other teacher

that have found on the path of knowledge

very clear

moon is saying

now everything is clear after having

heard you and following your

restrictions but most other gurus are

cryptic

they hide more

everybody has their own style

actually the guru is never wrong the

fault is in our understanding

we do not ask the correct questions

then we interpret the meanings without

asking the real meaning and so on they

will teach you the same thing then you

need to ask for clarity

otherwise the guru will assume that you

don't want to know they are actually

cleaning up the crowd who wants to know

like this fellow who came i know nothing

but he wants to know by answering the

question

not by asking the questions

immediately removed not interested in

knowing actually then started arguing

instead of following the instructions so

the gurus are looking for the right

student

it looks like they're hiding but they

are filtering

who wants to know who has the curiosity

just gives a hint

just gives a hint and then looks in the

crowd who who wants to know more

makes a cryptic statement and checks who

will sit in my satsing and who will go

away there can be some gurus like this

they have this kind of style but some

are very direct and somehow i like those

who simply say it without waiting

tell me what you know and i am like that

also

not everybody is like this yes

how can i be perfect student

listen to the

video on qualities of the seeker

qualities of the seeker it is also in

the program

it has all the details of how it

shouldn't should be

graham is saying many times i thought

you misunderstood me when i asked a

question then but when i contemplate

your answers

i found i had misunderstood myself

change happened

yes it is there is a possibility you see

there is a possibility that there will

be misunderstanding but it gets cleared

after a while that is why i put so much

stress on

defining words so that there is no

misunderstanding

should not use improper words

by improper i mean the the ones who are

that are not defined in our terminology

and the secondly i

ask you to write precise questions not

noodle soup of words

it causes

misunderstanding immediately

should be short and sweet look at the

questions in the exams not more than one

line how precise they are

that will never cause misunderstanding

and another thing is if you go step by

step there won't be any misunderstanding

what happens is people come here and

start talking about the highest kind of

philosophy in the world and when i asked

where are you

i just joined today

now there will be misunderstanding so

the best way you know it is given in

gyan sutra series in hindi is not yet

made in english you see

but the best way to approach a guru is

with folded hands

please teach me this and this precise

and then let the guru do the judgment

let the guru do the assessment from

where the teaching must be started

so the guru will usually ask these

questions what do you do how much you

earn your family dependence and also

these things will be asked and like he

said how to be perfect student if he is

perfect he is immediately taken in

otherwise he is sent back in the world

come after five years something like

this now because we are online i don't

get this luxury to

interview people

hundreds thousands of people there

i have only this much

option

give them whatever i know in as limit as

short time as possible we don't have the

luxury to choose the student so

sometimes misunderstandings happen

sometimes

sometimes a good student is also thrown

away baby with the bath water

that's okay it's fine you know we have

limitations for being

online so rahul is saying what is

understanding it seems no understanding

is final except the ultimate truth

we never use the word understanding

i have used this word

only once in my blog

where i tried to define it the

definition was not so good so it was

dropped it should be used only in

informal

way the word understanding what do we

say knowledge so no knowledge is final

except the ultimate truth it's

still not precise

so you can say no knowledge is final

except the knowledge of the self anyhow

understanding a very poorly defined word

what do you mean by it what is the

definition of it

knowing or something else

knowing very well

what so you know like we say i

understand the subject

means the thorough knowledge can i can

answer anything or when i say i

understand this person so has been with

the person for a long time

that much i know from the usage of the

world

but

when you say i understand who am i

no no no no what does that mean

you can write a book on who am i

so we don't use this kind of thing you

know i understand that everything is

illusion

i don't know what you understand but

when you say

i know everything is an illusion then i

can help you to go further to go beyond

the illusion when you say i know who am

i

then i can tell you the practices and so

on so the word knowing and knowledge has

been precisely defined and that's what

we use

because understanding is very kind of

broad word can be used for everything

everybody will define their own words

so yes there are people who have defined

these words differently

there you should

be very careful do not impose your

meaning you should ask for the meaning

of the words

do not look them up in the dictionary

no philosopher uses dictionary no

guru will use a dictionary they simply

make up the words

why because they are not using the words

to convey the knowledge they are using

the words as a pointer stand in

the real thing is always experience

once you get the experience you can tag

it with any word you want

so all philosophical philosophical

systems have their own terminology and

those who are lost in terminology will

never

know

they will remain ignorant you can say

they will never understand and those who

mix philosophies terminologies

no hope

so the key to knowledge is precision be

precise choose a language

choose a system

stick to it till you get all of it then

you're free to do whatever you want

cook up your own after that but the key

remains the same be precise

give one word for one thing if there are

two words for one thing you need to

simply say is they're same

so on this is not poetry

path of knowledge has no poetry in it is

not left to interpretation

you can see the openitions and all these

scriptures of the path of knowledge

they are mostly like the instruction

manual this is like this

that is like that if you say this the

meaning is this

the precision is too much

paramjeet is asking can you say

something about manifestation yes

that which you are witnessing is the

manifestation it is simply another word

for the illusion the illusion is the

manifestation that which is manifested

is our experience and now whatever can

be said about the illusion can be said

about manifestation that is it is false

you see the

individual is never lost we simply

realize that it was never there so that

which was never there will never get

lost will never be lost will never be

destroyed because it was not there so

the ignorance here is that the

individual was real and then it was

destroyed no there was no individual

since the beginning and how things were

happening in the beginning they will

continue to happen now also simply

because there is a realization that

there is no individual does nothing to

the existence and there are a few more

problematic sentences

like

the existence is doing something behind

the back no it is not doing anything

there is no doer nobody is the doer not

the individual not the experience and

not the existence so absolutely nothing

changes

because there was no doer before also

this is the only realization

so who is taking the birth and who is

dying and whose

karmic things are these nobodies and it

was like this before also and it is like

this now also it is all an illusion

since the beginning so

no effect is there on anybody's life

actually

the only thing is the ignorance is

dropped the ignorance is dropped which

that which was considered as true has

now become false and the false continues

as before no change

so there is nothing to do

and those who are trying to do something

still some ignorance is remaining or

those who

already know it is false and so on if

they are trying to do something desires

are remaining and if the desires are

remaining then they are not my desire

they can happen as usual

interfering in the desires is also

ignorance that means you are doing

something so if it is happening no

problem if there is a

artificially induced thought that look i

don't have any desire so these should

not come i should not do anything at all

because i don't take birth and so on so

i will not take birth and so on this is

ignorance because if you don't take

birth you cannot stop the birth also it

is not yours

the experiencer does nothing it is not

taking the birth and it is not stopping

the birth so nothing remains to do this

is the knowledge