https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBczovaf3EY
what are pure experiences
experience is not clouded by ignorance
what is the ideal thing to do in a
moment
do that which is necessary actually it
is easier do not do that which is
unnecessary and that which is necessary
will happen that which is which must
happen ideally will happen stop doing
that which is totally unnecessary
ishri shwarpuri said consciousness
always creates experiences opposite to
our true nature so that we can enjoy or
appreciate what we have
that's why we have suffering pain and
certainty in the world please throw some
light on this
this is very poetic poetic way of saying
that the duality exists so that we can
appreciate the positivity
the negativity exists so that we know
the meaning of positivity
so why is there suffering so that we can
know happiness
we can know happiness
why is there pain so that we know the
value of pleasure so on
without the darkness you won't know the
value of
light without the bad
food you won't know the pleasure of
eating good food
so that is the meaning here
there is some benefit there is some
use of negative experiences
you don't know what is bad you will
not recognize what is good
so if you get something which is good
yes now you will appreciate what you got
same thing about ignorance if you all
you have ignorance you won't appreciate
the value of knowledge so ignorance is a
way to
get us to the knowledge and then see the
value of it and if this experience is
not given then the value will not be
seen so there can be
opinions you know why is there no better
way
why can't we know the value of happiness
without suffering and so on you see
right now right here it is like this so
i accept it there is no point in
imagining things when they are not there
the experience is dual it is by
necessity it cannot be anything
and the effect of duality is that there
are opposites so hopefully
you got the answer and his style is not
so direct he uses metaphors stories and
so on but still it is very very clear it
is more clear than any other teacher
that have found on the path of knowledge
very clear
moon is saying
now everything is clear after having
heard you and following your
restrictions but most other gurus are
cryptic
they hide more
everybody has their own style
actually the guru is never wrong the
fault is in our understanding
we do not ask the correct questions
then we interpret the meanings without
asking the real meaning and so on they
will teach you the same thing then you
need to ask for clarity
otherwise the guru will assume that you
don't want to know they are actually
cleaning up the crowd who wants to know
like this fellow who came i know nothing
but he wants to know by answering the
question
not by asking the questions
immediately removed not interested in
knowing actually then started arguing
instead of following the instructions so
the gurus are looking for the right
student
it looks like they're hiding but they
are filtering
who wants to know who has the curiosity
just gives a hint
just gives a hint and then looks in the
crowd who who wants to know more
makes a cryptic statement and checks who
will sit in my satsing and who will go
away there can be some gurus like this
they have this kind of style but some
are very direct and somehow i like those
who simply say it without waiting
tell me what you know and i am like that
also
not everybody is like this yes
how can i be perfect student
listen to the
video on qualities of the seeker
qualities of the seeker it is also in
the program
it has all the details of how it
shouldn't should be
graham is saying many times i thought
you misunderstood me when i asked a
question then but when i contemplate
your answers
i found i had misunderstood myself
change happened
yes it is there is a possibility you see
there is a possibility that there will
be misunderstanding but it gets cleared
after a while that is why i put so much
stress on
defining words so that there is no
misunderstanding
should not use improper words
by improper i mean the the ones who are
that are not defined in our terminology
and the secondly i
ask you to write precise questions not
noodle soup of words
it causes
misunderstanding immediately
should be short and sweet look at the
questions in the exams not more than one
line how precise they are
that will never cause misunderstanding
and another thing is if you go step by
step there won't be any misunderstanding
what happens is people come here and
start talking about the highest kind of
philosophy in the world and when i asked
where are you
i just joined today
now there will be misunderstanding so
the best way you know it is given in
gyan sutra series in hindi is not yet
made in english you see
but the best way to approach a guru is
with folded hands
please teach me this and this precise
and then let the guru do the judgment
let the guru do the assessment from
where the teaching must be started
so the guru will usually ask these
questions what do you do how much you
earn your family dependence and also
these things will be asked and like he
said how to be perfect student if he is
perfect he is immediately taken in
otherwise he is sent back in the world
come after five years something like
this now because we are online i don't
get this luxury to
interview people
hundreds thousands of people there
i have only this much
option
give them whatever i know in as limit as
short time as possible we don't have the
luxury to choose the student so
sometimes misunderstandings happen
sometimes
sometimes a good student is also thrown
away baby with the bath water
that's okay it's fine you know we have
limitations for being
online so rahul is saying what is
understanding it seems no understanding
is final except the ultimate truth
we never use the word understanding
i have used this word
only once in my blog
where i tried to define it the
definition was not so good so it was
dropped it should be used only in
informal
way the word understanding what do we
say knowledge so no knowledge is final
except the ultimate truth it's
still not precise
so you can say no knowledge is final
except the knowledge of the self anyhow
understanding a very poorly defined word
what do you mean by it what is the
definition of it
knowing or something else
knowing very well
what so you know like we say i
understand the subject
means the thorough knowledge can i can
answer anything or when i say i
understand this person so has been with
the person for a long time
that much i know from the usage of the
world
but
when you say i understand who am i
no no no no what does that mean
you can write a book on who am i
so we don't use this kind of thing you
know i understand that everything is
illusion
i don't know what you understand but
when you say
i know everything is an illusion then i
can help you to go further to go beyond
the illusion when you say i know who am
i
then i can tell you the practices and so
on so the word knowing and knowledge has
been precisely defined and that's what
we use
because understanding is very kind of
broad word can be used for everything
everybody will define their own words
so yes there are people who have defined
these words differently
there you should
be very careful do not impose your
meaning you should ask for the meaning
of the words
do not look them up in the dictionary
no philosopher uses dictionary no
guru will use a dictionary they simply
make up the words
why because they are not using the words
to convey the knowledge they are using
the words as a pointer stand in
the real thing is always experience
once you get the experience you can tag
it with any word you want
so all philosophical philosophical
systems have their own terminology and
those who are lost in terminology will
never
know
they will remain ignorant you can say
they will never understand and those who
mix philosophies terminologies
no hope
so the key to knowledge is precision be
precise choose a language
choose a system
stick to it till you get all of it then
you're free to do whatever you want
cook up your own after that but the key
remains the same be precise
give one word for one thing if there are
two words for one thing you need to
simply say is they're same
so on this is not poetry
path of knowledge has no poetry in it is
not left to interpretation
you can see the openitions and all these
scriptures of the path of knowledge
they are mostly like the instruction
manual this is like this
that is like that if you say this the
meaning is this
the precision is too much
paramjeet is asking can you say
something about manifestation yes
that which you are witnessing is the
manifestation it is simply another word
for the illusion the illusion is the
manifestation that which is manifested
is our experience and now whatever can
be said about the illusion can be said
about manifestation that is it is false
you see the
individual is never lost we simply
realize that it was never there so that
which was never there will never get
lost will never be lost will never be
destroyed because it was not there so
the ignorance here is that the
individual was real and then it was
destroyed no there was no individual
since the beginning and how things were
happening in the beginning they will
continue to happen now also simply
because there is a realization that
there is no individual does nothing to
the existence and there are a few more
problematic sentences
like
the existence is doing something behind
the back no it is not doing anything
there is no doer nobody is the doer not
the individual not the experience and
not the existence so absolutely nothing
changes
because there was no doer before also
this is the only realization
so who is taking the birth and who is
dying and whose
karmic things are these nobodies and it
was like this before also and it is like
this now also it is all an illusion
since the beginning so
no effect is there on anybody's life
actually
the only thing is the ignorance is
dropped the ignorance is dropped which
that which was considered as true has
now become false and the false continues
as before no change
so there is nothing to do
and those who are trying to do something
still some ignorance is remaining or
those who
already know it is false and so on if
they are trying to do something desires
are remaining and if the desires are
remaining then they are not my desire
they can happen as usual
interfering in the desires is also
ignorance that means you are doing
something so if it is happening no
problem if there is a
artificially induced thought that look i
don't have any desire so these should
not come i should not do anything at all
because i don't take birth and so on so
i will not take birth and so on this is
ignorance because if you don't take
birth you cannot stop the birth also it
is not yours
the experiencer does nothing it is not
taking the birth and it is not stopping
the birth so nothing remains to do this
is the knowledge
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