Existence and Experiencer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZZPDUDcmtQ

 existence is the experience or how so

i'm going to ask this in the satsang

again how

how is this existence the experience are

you not the experiencer is this this

human

being not the experiencer suddenly um

how is experience sir that

and the existence itself so this this

was

a point where ignorance is present in

aprajita you should

review this

completely

because this is the first thing we say

in the first lesson isn't it after

defining the existence and experience

sir what do i say

existence is the experiencer and there

people probably leave it that probably

he said it so it must be there but no

the whole of the program now explains

why it is at least up to the lesson

number 20 we go on explaining why the

existence is the experience sir

i'll give you the hint the hint is the

essence mukta is saying because

both have same element which element is

there any elements

are there any elements in the existence

in the experiencer

this thing all experiences happen in

existence but that we are not asking

that we are asking how is the existence

and experiences

zero yes it is zero it is empty like we

don't even say zero we say emptiness but

then the question will become how is

emptiness the experiencer how is

emptiness the experiencer it should be

totally empty now it should be a dead

space

zero why it is alive

mukhta is saying no reason no no i am

not asking for a reason which makes it

into experience

i am asking the logical

explanation how is not a why question

the

no reason comes out to be the answer to

the why question why is the existence

experiencer why needs to experience

anything and then you can safely say no

reason it's meaningless question it is

like this the answer to that the answer

needed also so book is saying i said

dante saying existence is itself an

experience it is an experience yes but

it is also an experiencer the

experiences

thing because experience is also fake

only possibility so what

mukta needs to

get the knowledge are you in the program

or not are you listening to the videos

or not

but we're guessing there is nothing else

only experience you are fifty percent

right but paul waker has already

completed the program

so he will or he will mostly say right

things bharathip is right yes party is

absolutely right experiencer is the

substance of the existence

you can remove the word substance put

essence experiencer is the essence of

existence it is the only thing that does

not change in the existence

essentially the existence is the

experiencer you see

can you see

mera is saying

existence is

is equal to experiencer per experience

where experiences are false an

experiencer is the only truth and

changeable so the existence is the

experience and that is the perfect

answer now you know why mira is right

because she is conducting the 3d

programs for people this is what we say

in the 3d program when we are giving the

knowledge of the non-duality we explain

it like this this is the at least

according to me this is the finest

answer there are more ways to

convince

these things about these things but

existence is everything in everything

includes

and everything means only two things you

see the duality of the experience and

the experiencer they include everything

there is no third and this duality one

is just like waves and the other is just

like water so the substance or the

essence comes out to be the water or the

experiencer which is unchanging waves

are like the experiences vibrations only

changing

fake falls can be anything

they appear as anything you see all

possibilities are there

that is not the essence

so my essence is actually the essence of

the existence and so it is the essence

of everybody and everything

the whole of the existence is

impregnated with this experiencer this

power to behold itself the new

definition of the experience that isn't

it the witness is saying existence is

all there is experiences what we arrive

at after reducing everything the essence

that there is very good yes remember the

word essence i gave you the hint also

you see this these tests are very

helpful for those who are not even in

the program those who are not even

appearing in the test they also learn a

lot simply asking the questions most of

the time you are asking me questions but

when i start asking the questions

real knowledge flows isn't it because

seeker mostly does not even know what to

ask poor creature the people do not know

what to ask

so when the guru starts asking then it

is

havoc

shreya is saying experiencer is only

experiencing and it is that which only

is existence is also that which is the

whole but empty that is the non-dual

point of view

that there is experiencing only no need

to break it down into duality however

the question was concerning

the duality only what i'm asking there

is what is the essence of the existence

and you must be thinking oh this

existence is whole big thing all the

galaxies and all the

worlds and universes of all kinds and

all no that is not it not the existence

actually that is the fake show

huge amount of it huge amount of

fakeness because it is capable of doing

it the existence is very simple it is

emptiness which has the capability to

witness

right here right now you are that

existence very simple

that which is simplest is the existence

that which is most complex and biggest

is the illusion anyhow let's go further

how can you exist without taking birth

she got 0.5 marks there good answer

anyway so i exist i'm worthless

i although i alone exist you see that

which takes birth is a body or any other

thing you see a form a pattern

is born that is not me it's a very good

answer but i was expecting

more explanation i alone exist the that

which take birth does not exist it is an

illusion this must be the answer

if this body is non-essential why am i

bound to it she got full marks

it's non-essential it is only an

experience

nobody is bound to it you are having an

experience of the body the body is bound

not the experiencer of the body you see

this is

probably more beautiful answer but her

answer was also good

oh but why i need to have this all these

limited experiences if i am free you

know people as

experiences are limited not you the

experiences do not define the

experiencer it can have any experiences

only the meaning you see that's what

aparajita said that the body limits the

vibration so that they're meaningful yes

you will lose meaning if you get all the

experience if you if you remove the

limitation of the senses which are on

the bodies without body no senses

you you will you will you will

remove

the meaning also the example of the

pinhole camera is best here you want

more pictures you want a bigger picture

so you increase the size of the hole and

what do you see no picture everything is

coming in on the screen now reduce the

size of the hole when the clear picture

meaning appears

suddenly so these limitations are there

for purpose

now you can say that but that that does

not mean that the experience here is

limited

just like in the pinhole camera

the limitation narrow hole

is you know limitation of the hole but

not of the screen the screen can take in

any picture

you can produce anything there project

anything there it is capable of

receiving it only that

it

the more you put through there the less

meaningful it will become

why is this world

so solid why does it look so convincing

that it can fool any intelligent person

all the intelligent people are fooled by

it actually they say it is real

and the reason is because it is limited

limited by laws

limited by time and so on you see slow

changing

there is no

no there is randomness but it is not

overwhelming everything happens slowly

and so on according to the laws the mind

is isolated the randomness

out of order the mind has ignored the

disorder

focused on the order this is the

attractor function of the mind and

that is why it looks so solid otherwise

nothing it's all chaos here

cause you're saying when we talk about

anything our mind creates images

likewise i imagine a circular mesh

flowing freely in river

river is the experience passing through

the mesh how one imagines the experience

are you asking the question or are you

telling me don't understand the question

yes the river you see that is a good

metaphor that

the xp the flow of the experience is

like river we sample only a little bit

of it so that it is meaningful it's not

like a flood of everything

so he's asking how and imagine the

experiencer do we imagine the

experiencer we never imagined the

experience there is no need that which

is imagining that which is witnessing

the imagination of any kind is the

experiencer you see why do you need to

imagine it

you are it if you imagine it it will it

will be a wrong picture truth cannot be

imagined and the illusion is always an

imagination