https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt3_CNFLM_U
so i'm going to take some uh questions
from uh sulfur guardia there is a
question which is uh very frequently
asked what is the most effective way to
transcend the ego
and
i answered it that the only way to
transcend the ego is knowledge there is
no other way you can have this knowledge
by various means by various parts but
that is the only solution to this
problem of identification with the ego
you can have the knowledge
experientially by doing some practices
or you can simply directly see it using
a well-matured intellect that is the
path of knowledge
but ultimately you come to this
realization of
the illusion of the ego the illusion of
the identity or the small self in the
separate self or the person
and when you see that there is no person
what remains is the whole when you see
that there is no individual what remains
is the universal
now you will see the problem here that
knowing this is not a big deal it can
happen in two minutes
but
the identification will shift back to
anything which is necessary for survival
and now such questions are going to
arrive that
i know who i am but i keep thinking of
myself as this body or my memories
or various spiritual entities like soul
and some things things like that
so my solution to that is very easy that
you can become aware of this
activity also
it is only an activity it is not you you
are that which is aware of this activity
so bring the activity of identification
under the light of awareness
and now it is perfectly okay to be
identified with anything because mother
nature has made this arrangement for
some specific purpose and the purpose is
survival of the individual
if you see the
existence you will find that we never
experience the existence as it is it is
emptiness there is nothing to experience
what is there is infinite potential to
be anything that potential is being
experienced as experiences illusion
series of illusions and we call it
experience
the experience is happening now and here
and you will also notice that there is
no universal experience the experience
is always individual experience
at the level of universal there is no
individual and there is no experience
this is very strange the experience is
always subjective there is nobody who
can say that i am experiencing the whole
they will only say that i am
experiencing a tiny bit one thing at a
time in the form of a very limited
individual
so what we are experiencing is actually
universal but it appears in the form of
an individual this is paradoxical this
cannot be comprehended logically
when i say that you are the existence
you are experiencing yourself in various
forms current form is very limited and
this is all okay
everybody understands this much but what
they don't understand is where is the
universal indus why the existence is not
experiencing itself as existence
can anybody comment on this
why does it need to experience
itself in the form of a limited
individual why can't it simply go and
experience everything at once are there
any answers from participants here
because i keep answering these questions
but it is sometimes very interesting to
know what people think about these
things
kiran is saying because the universal
memory is not witnessable by
individualized memory that is perfectly
right that is okay the question here is
that why can't the universal memory
witness itself get rid of the individual
memory completely
now everybody knows that
there is no such thing as individual
memory it is an appearance the universal
appears as the individual there is no
real individual like there is no real
wave in the ocean the ocean has assumed
a tiny impermanent form of the wave
but why must it happen in this way
a still ocean is perfectly okay why is
it not witnessing itself without doing
this drama of individuality
yes
very nice benjamin is saying without the
limitation there won't be any meaning
yes with their saying experience is
possible only through limitations yes
very good answers there is no mistaking
any of the answers i am very happy that
people have progressed to this level
because this is a very difficult
question in according to me
it is very easy to see that there is no
individual it is very difficult to see
why it is so why there has to be an
unusual
uh
detailed answer is that
this existence there are infinite
possibilities and one of the possibility
is of individualization
let us not forget this it is possible to
be
an individual this is not excluded from
the wholeness otherwise it won't remain
whole
there is universal yes but to complete
itself there is individual also there is
connectivity yes but to complete itself
there must be separation also so it is
manifesting all possibilities
right now right here we are in one of
the possibility which is of
individuality it is all very beautiful
it is all whole and complete without
there being an individual and the
experiences associated with the
individual which are of a very special
kind
they're very solid and meaningful you
will notice this the worlds that the
individual finds itself in they are very
stable it looks like there is a purpose
here it looks looks like there is
something going on which is meaningful
the human life or the life of any
creature there is a goal to it this is
very satisfying experience
now i won't say that it is completely
meaningful or i won't say that is it has
a purpose
nothing like this but it seems that
there is because it is an illusion
everything is okay here if i don't find
a true meaning i don't usually fuss
about it that oh there is no true
meaning true meaning nothing is true in
the illusion why are you searching for a
true meaning in the illusion that's not
logical
but it is a good illusion yes like
benjamin said it's a perfect illusion
i'll take you back to the metaphor of
the movie if you watch a movie which has
no story just random pictures pictures
change so quickly like those music
videos where there's no connection
between what they're showing and the
song all they want you to you know go
through
at twenty thousand pictures in two
minutes somehow because the young
generation cannot tolerate anything
which is more than 5 seconds long so
they need to make such videos
imagine if the movie is made like this
no story at all no
apparent purpose in the movie nothing
purposeful meaningful happens who is
going to watch that movie can you call
it an intelligent movie can you call it
a good experience and the answer is no
our individual intellect at least is
going to say that
it is meaningless it is a waste of time
and if there is a story there if there
is a meaning purpose and people are
chasing something
which is of value for them in in the
movie the characters then these this is
the entertaining movie this is a piece
of art now it is worth watching it is
not a complete waste of time
the director and the producer and the
story writer have done a good job here
and you will find that in that movie
there is everything all the duality is
there somebody is good somebody is bad
somebody is beautiful somebody's ugly
there is happiness and there is sorrow
and
sadness everything is there
in india we call such movies as the
masala movie because they put everything
there or we also call it a formula movie
because there is formula that move is
always successful does not matter what
is there
so right now we are in one such masala
movie where there is apparent conflict
apparent resolution apparent struggle
apparent suffering and totally fake
happiness
maya is a perfect director maya is the
best director in this universe because
she is the only one she has produced
this movie
because there is a possibility of making
such a movie it is there there is no
other reason
you can only say that it is necessary to
express this possibility otherwise the
wholeness will not be wholeness
and there is a kind of experience that
the individual provides to the universal
to the universe or to the existence
itself which is not possible when your
aperture is too big like the camera
aperture where it is too big everything
fades into white you need to have some
darkness you need to have some
limitations you need to turn you need to
narrow down the aperture so that only
few things get in only little bit of
light gets in and then we get the
illusion then the picture appears
you close down even further and it
starts disappearing again it is a
perfect metaphor actually the camera
opened too much it's gone it is
universal close it down and it's gone
because the darkness is also universal
you can see the plants and the rocks and
the trees their apertures are very
narrow as you evolve as the individual
evolves there is an optimal position
where the aperture is not too big and
not too small
there are more combinations that are
possible like a possibility is there to
narrow down
individual experience to smaller scales
like we have right now it is a very
narrow kind of experience and to
expand it whenever it is needed that is
one more possibility and i think we are
growing towards that possibility
we want to keep the individual because
it's so useful it provides a very
valuable purposeful experience
apparently we also want to transcend the
individual and then we can have this
ability to widen our view a little i
think we are progressing towards that
possibility
somehow i think it will never become the
whole watching the whole it is watching
itself it is kind of engaged in itself
why these various possibilities it is
being expressed like this and you will
know very soon that there is a gradation
there is a gradual widening of the
aperture this is what we call as
spiritual evolution
so it is all perfect it is all beautiful
you don't need to do anything why are
you trying to transcend the ego what is
wrong in ego what is wrong in the
individual
benjamin is saying
just because truth underlies and
pervades all experience the movie can be
taken as real
yes what is real here
can you tell me
what is fake what is real because the
only reality there is is the illusion
why do we even divide it into real and
fake why do we divide it into true and
false there is no such thing in the
existence
the existence is whole and complete the
oneness has truth it has false it has
the real it has the unreal existence
never says that it is real or unreal it
is human mind these concepts are an
invention of the human mind
remember what is real what is unreal is
totally arbitrary and subjective you
know that now you know the truth of the
truth that it is it is also fake it is a
part of the movie actually
so when we transcend the individual we
transcend the truth also because the
truth is defined by the individual there
is no such truth in the universe in the
universal in the wholeness no truth
there's beyond true and false
it is very interesting
vidda is saying through various limited
individuals vaid experiences are
experienced as one whole for example
through dream characters dreamer is
experiencing one whole dream yes very
good yes it is a good metaphor with in
while dreaming i the one divides into
many and i take many forms in the dream
and it is surprising that i take the
forms of non-living things also
i become the house i become the roads i
become the sky i become the earth i
become the water and i become people and
animals it is a one whole experience
if in your dream you ask the other
person what are you experiencing and
they will say exactly the same thing
that other people say in the waking
state i am experiencing that which you
are experiencing
and why is that not surprising
because the experiencer is the one they
must experience that which i am
experiencing otherwise there is no
meaning otherwise how can you call it a
meaningful dream if every character in
your dream is simply experiencing
something else they will experience what
you are experiencing and remember this
is one such dream right now the waking
state is also a dream where the one is
experiencing
many and you see that is why we are all
experiencing the same thing
so it it will happen like this i don't
know of any other way it might it will
happen it includes all possibilities
already now what else can be there
what are you trying to transcend here
remember the question was what is the
effective way to transcend the ego just
realize there is no ego just realize
there is no individual it is an
appearance you don't need to do anything
more than that
why are you sitting in a cave trying to
transcend the individual you are
chanting the mantras to become the shiva
you are that already just don't be the
individual just don't be the ego
it is as simple as that
and the play can continue because now
this ignorance is also washed off that i
need not be an individual
you are not an individual realize this
and the play can continue the dream can
continue
there is no other way the existence is
pure emptiness and it must do what it is
doing right now it is all perfect
already
nothing needs to change and if the
change happens it is also perfect it
must change in only that way now
realizing this you will be in absolute
peace no chasing no seeking no running
no practices
no gurus no ashrams no mantras no
bending the body no subtle worlds no
entities no worship
this is called freedom
this is called liberation liberation
while living as an individual
it is so simple and it is so beautiful
what a relief knowing that i don't need
to do anything to be everything this is
the direct path yes if you don't
understand what i just said then it's
kind of confusing yes once you realize
your true nature nothing needs to be
done it does it automatically the
disidentification with the ego happens
automatically then the rest of the time
is spent in some kind of purification of
the intellect which tries to identify
again and again
it hates the movie then oh it is an
illusion i just realized i am in the
illusion can somebody please take me out
of the illusion into some reality
this madness is also over
once you realize that there is no
reality of any other kind this is as
real as it is than real is the only
reality you accept it that is your
surrender to accept the individual after
discarding it
this is the paradox in the spirituality
now the mountains are mountains the
rivers are reversed and individual is
back in the market it is the individual
no problem at all
all the problem comes because of
the struggle to let go of the individual
what are you letting go of
if there is no individual how can you
let it go all you need to do is let go
of this belief that there is the
individual what are you trying to
transcend if there is no individual what
are you trying to transcend if there is
no ego
if it is an illusion do you need to
transcend it no simply know that it is
an illusion accept and continue this is
the simplest practice i am giving you
now some people will say no i go back
and identify with all other things the
body the mind the soul the spirit i
start calling myself as the brahmana how
to get rid of this and i'll repeat the
same thing which i said in the beginning
that it is an activity see it as another
activity simply abide in your true
nature
the activity will become problem if you
try to
kill it
don't kill it simply observe this
activity of identification it is totally
fake the fake individual is trying to
gain gain back its reality
it is which is perfectly okay this is
the tendency of mother nature actually
so do not fight the maya as i usually
say become a friend of the maya that she
is trying to take you back and you say
no you need to say it very nicely
otherwise she will become angry
that is the struggle of a spiritual
seeker you need to refuse very politely
and you let this puppet do whatever it
does if it wants to identify with the
body you see fulfill its desires if it
is done in pure awareness if it is done
complete awareness no problem at all
you are already transcendent where are
you transcending you are already the
ultimate where are you going what are
you trying to become when you are the
ultimate
that is why i said knowledge is the only
way and knowledge is very simple
actually i am not giving you the biggest
techniques in the universe the most
complicated at yoga techniques no
i'm giving you two words that's all
truth is like this two or three words
remember the transcending and liberation
and
evolution is a part of the movie
if you think that
finally i am out of the illusion now i
have become a spiritual seeker and i am
seeking and i have a super guru here who
knows everything i'll be out of the
illusion in no time well this is just
another delusion it is all happening in
the movie it is a part of the movie
all you need to do is discard it just
watch it and it settles down
with this saying
the essence and result of this knowledge
is that it frees one from doing yes i'm
not saying do nothing i'm saying do
everything in complete awareness that
will be seen as non-doing
is it possible to do nothing no it is
possible to erase the doing by being in
complete awareness
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