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that which is experiencing is the self and that which is experienced is also
the self that which is taken as a separate independent part of the
experience of experiencing is the ego in the separate self it arises because of a
need of survival of this organism it is a mental process that is an outcome of
modeling of the organism in the mind a self referential structure in the memory
this helps in survival helps in feeding and defending this one this form all
directions are then attached to this model all the perceptions are then
attached to this model all the mental events thoughts feelings emotions
imaginations fear anger love knowledge
curiosity realization is then attached to this model of the self it is
expressed by the word I Nahum problems in the most uttered word in this
universe the doer arises out of it doing the experience comes first and the doer
is fabricated in the mind by this ego creation process so far so good
and does not raise any kinds of problems actually it is very helpful without the
eye without the ego the organism is not going to survive well the life will be
very simple just like a tree you plant a worm a fish just automatic forms as the
life evolves this model of the self also evolves and
we see this most developed in human form and there is only one problem in that
sense this is so useful and so strong it
becomes a reality for an ordinary human the reality of the eye it is seen as an
entity that exists indefinitely the truth that is and not is something
that is made up by the mind this ignorance is perpetuated by the society
by the parents my friends and other people because there is you also that
organism that body mind is the you and the mind creates a model of the you also
the other another person and all the actions of that body mine are attached
to the other probably in the self model arises out of this conceptualization of
other as there are others responsible for their actions their speech their
thoughts similarly there is I responsible for actions thoughts and
speech happening here very near so there is a mutual reinforcement of the ego
that is how we function in a group that is how the society is constructed
without the concepts of the eye and you an individual there is no
society Society is a group is a set of individuals out of societies small
tribes families big nations etc they
evolve and now this has become so solid crystallized and that it becomes almost
impossible to see through this illusion of the self in the separate self they go
when things are seen as they are without this we love concepts and mental
structures the colored glasses of the mind after ideas of the mechanisms
mental processes social norms when these things are seen without these the first
thing that happens is disappearance of the eye the ego disappears because it's
not there now it is there in the form of a concept an idea when things are seen
as they are it is not found it is not that it was there and now disappeared no
my disappeared I mean it is seen as not existing in the absence of the separate
self the real self is now evident not
your unfortunate that it's also called self it's called Ackman that also points to a
self actually an identity but the universality of existence pops out that
which is is not seen as I that this is that which is is seen as absence of the
separate eye it is very simple in the spiritual circles people try to invent
all kinds of stuff in the body the mind the soul the spirit who knows what it's
not there there is whole it appears in these illusory forms and forms are
constructed in the mind as concepts as knowledge that's what we call as worldly
knowledge it helps to act in the world act in the solution the whole world is
constructed like this not only these they're processes in the mind tremendously complicated you can get
hold of the essence that is enough don't need to analyze each and every process there is a beauty in this
mental creation there is a structure in it it's based on laws which we have
discussed several times now these are all concepts in that Tucci's seen as
absence of concepts that's all since mind things that concept's are
what exists that which is is seen as an absence and therefore the word emptiness
is very suitable word it does not mean
nothingness instead does not mean non-existence it is actually very
difficult to put it into words so the closest that I came to this concept is
the ground of everything the empty
ethereal space of everything not the physical space the timeless eternal pure
free from any blemishes I am that in this body mind complex which likes to
call itself as I is not this the essence
of any spiritual path to realize this to see this right now right here is
enlightenment now I come to the topic which is letting go of the ego it is
beautiful up to this point it is liberating so much freedom here this is
Samadhi unfortunately it will last only for few seconds there he goes back
instantly the world is back the mind is back and the person which is again a
fiction starts acting as a person as an individual immediately for an ordinary
seeker it seems almost impossible to let go of this idea of a separate entity it
is not so difficult to realize that it's not there little bit of pointing a
little bit of enquiry searching will lead you to this realization that
sense of I automatically leads to the presence of a self Magnussen's the consciousness that man the problem
is to force the mind to stay here force the mind to not form the concepts of
separation now the funny thing is mind is concepts mind is memory mind is
knowledge to force the mind to be without them is to get rid of the mind
the no mind when there is no mind there is that which is now it is funny because
this cannot be done because who is there to do it that which is is already here
it won't do anything it is just a witnessing consciousness in a space
emptiness what can it do the mind wants to dissolve itself which is an
impossibility so the ego cannot let go of the ego in letting go of the ego in
this effort arises the ego resistance to the ego is nothing but there you go now
many people do this kind of mistake because it is explained in one-liner kind of thing get rid of the ego and
this was told to me one of my gurus she said ego is your problem
I was just entering into the spiritual field I said well I'm not egoic I don't
think I am somebody great I don't himself people I actually see myself as very small humble person and
actually I did not say in these words because at that time I was so stupid
I couldn't even form a sentence properly so my immediate reaction was anger what
the hell why are you talking like this to me do I look like egoic or something because that is the normal ordinary
understanding of this word too much I so when I was hit with
and get rid of the ego hammer at least a hundred times forced the ego to think a
little bit see it is so strong it is like lead covering it is like the
coconut shell it takes a really big hit to pierce through this so it went on and
on and on but finally I learned finally the ego learned that it is there it
exists see how difficult it is but how easy it is to simply say get rid of your
ego let go of your ego these are only words they don't work the fortunately it
is very easy to see it's not there that is in our favor actually thanks to mother nature it's very easy to say this
investigate and you will not find it except as a thought as an idea so I
don't remember who pointed me to this egolessness but very slowly it happened
this guy was not the sharpest of the seekers now the real problem starts
which I mentioned not possible to stay egoless there is nobody there to get rid
of this ego actually the paradoxical thing is you cannot get rid of that
which is not there so ego is not there you cannot get rid of it and this is simple logic it takes many years to
understand this if you are on your own if you have the blessings of a guru well
in few days can be understood and the ego does not really understand it comes
back immediately who look I am here it's like whack-a-mole back when and comes
out from some other place so I'm going to give the solution it's not possible
to get rid of the ego but it's possible to shift the point of view to awareness
remember that it is not my awareness it is only awareness one word
not mine not yours awareness is the only experience you're citizen experience
being conscious of the consciousness that is about the ego that is about the
mind when I say above it means that you cannot find the relation between the ego
and awareness that's why I said it's not by awareness nobody actually owns this
awareness yes the eye owns the body the ions the objects that I use the thoughts and emotions and relations and who knows
what it cannot say my awareness as soon as you are the plane of awareness is the
depth of the ego it cannot reach there letting go of the eye is simply getting
hold of the awareness can you see it is easy now the level of the mind it's an
impossibility where you where are you going to keep the mind if you get rid of it
isn't it death can there be a mind without a person can there be person
without a mind at that levels not possible as soon as rising happens to
the level of awareness mind or no mind are equal all the actions are equal to
no actions all the doing simply happens the sensor is the nerve on this is the
shortest route there is no path that is so direct it is the ultimate liberation
how to rise above the ego see that there is a witness of being go it's very
simple once you have investigated there is no ego this process of ego fication
identity creation ahankhah is known there is no no nobody else to know it
the mind knows it it's known through the mind only and it can be seen now now you
can not be you the awareness can become a witness of this identity
creation of the doer it won't mean that the doing will disappear only the doer
will be seen as not being there it is not that I was there and now because of
this I have disappeared no the eyes scene has never been there an illusion
which I am making it so clear so that there is no doubt in your mind about
this thing seeing that there is no I is the liberation this can become a well
daily life it can become our daily experience it is a blissful experience
I'll talk about bliss in a minute the interesting question is why don't people
do it and the answer is ignorance Maya and we are in a pit so you can imagine a
pit with very steep slope when people try to get out of the pit they keep
falling back this pit is the pit of the society collective ignorance so today I
am in the no cells mode no ego mode and I cannot remain like that even our
language is you know totally worn in the self in the separate ego look at me I'm
talking in the same language I keep saying I you in me mind I can invent a
language but then you won't understand the word of so please see beyond the words whenever I'm using the words I on
you so in this pit we keep falling because our lives are arranged like this
this experiences like this epic you'll hear it is arranged around the concept
of a separate individual and so it takes a few seconds to fall back here you can
say it's a habit it's more than a habit even if you want to get rid of this habit you won't be able to do that of
course it gets rid of itself the bet happens but as long as it this
body mind is here alive it will be there and since I'm everything getting rid of it in one
place when individuals of no consequence pops up everywhere billions and billions
of individuals how many are you going to manage it's all you
so this dies with this commonly asked question that why isn't everybody
enlightened and why can't you make them enlightened well the problem is that
there won't be any humans left in the one main society there won't be an individual if by some magic you can make
the ego disappear the life will devolve back into the smaller animals plants and
bacteria and whatnot there is no idea is all pure mother nature so it is the working of this
existence it has to appear like this so first thing we can do is accept
surrender it's not like I am the loser so I surrender no surrender because you
are wrong you are on the wrong path thinking incorrectly more practically
acceptance as the solution so yes there will be ego so what this should be the
attitude yes there will be an illusion so what the illusion is also me the
illusion is also self any fight will actually make the ego stronger because
that which is does not fight it does not resist it is unconditional love it
allows everything in the space in this room allows all objects that events the
beautiful ones the old ones the new ones does not say no because it knows it's
not affected by my presence of the objects it is what it is the objects they come and go
so no amount of fighting and resistance is going to destroy the ego the separate
self this is them wrong that acceptance surrender once you've done that
established the awareness that is the only way to Rea rise above the ego there
are three kinds of people as I was saying why is everybody not enlightened him before I kinda see the absence of
the ego and because of the split of society ordinary people tend to remain in
darkness it's like milky falling because it's impossible to exist in any other way so
the reality of the ego is given realities it has to be accepted where
else are you going to live a human life in the ego and society of course and the
second reason is when pointed out look there is no I and it is said like this
you know there is no you and this has a very bad effect on the ego because it is
afraid of death is afraid of disappearance although there is no death no disappearance but an ordinary mind
cannot conceive of these things so there is a great resistance to this idea if
you tell them like this there is no you if you try to find you you won't find the you you won't find the I you won't
find yourself and it is terrifying for the people especially those who are
brought up in the materialistic or some kind of religious societies where the
culture has tremendous amount of resistance to anything spiritual so they
don't even investigate and you can see that most of the people are like this a
few let us say 100 people in a million investigate out of those hundred then
actually see that there is no ego and they are back in the pit they fall back
there the rest of the 90 they cannot see it out of this 10 one actually rises
above the ego one in a million and giving an example can rewinding then 10
million who knows it's very rare those who investigate and find there is
no ego will adopt it very quickly because they see it's not I cannot
function using so since that is that which is happening is the reality for
many the ego is a reality one in a million or ten million will actually get
this and reap the fruits of letting go
of the ego now this is the answer to this question you know why is everybody
not just loving why is everybody why do they prefer ignorance and so on well it
is in them a fabric of the Maya to be like this otherwise there won't be any
Maya so that's lies its grace it's pure grace you can say it's a very fortunate accident but somebody finds it a
reasonable way of living letting go of the ego what happens when you let go of
the ego like this when the eye is not interfering every second what happens
well just like I said bliss it is very blissful there are two ways
to attain the bliss first is by doing my sound can a paradoxical best but yes
that is right you heard it right second
is in the direct way by realizing there is no such thing as a person when I say
by doing it is a doing that is pure when a singer is singing the eye is not
singing singing is happening for the singer it is very blissful blissful experience
because I am not there and through the singing the art it is transferred to the
listener also extremely blissful the music that you love is very blissful
it will raise the hair on your body there will be shivers in your body it is so blissful and nothing compares to this
bliss it is remember it is not kind of happiness or pleasure it is very fine
yes it is you can say it is a pleasure but it is not sensual bodily pleasure it
is something beep that happens the music will instantly put you in the no mind
mode non-ego it won't if you keep thinking look this this is not correct
but I don't like this song I don't like the words and I hate this person because he belongs to this country then probably
nothing will happen because I is so strong here so a music lover ignores
everything else except the pure wise pure sound of music and that gives you
the Bliss painter is painting the eye is not there painting is happening the
imagination is moving the hands of the painter the skill is so perfect
there is generates a lot of bliss one stroke and it's electri one stroke and
it's a bird and that that creative process produces tremendous amount of
bliss now the eye comes later look how nicely I painted or I am a great singer
that is different thing you see that is the pitch that I am talking about anybody will fall down to the in the pit
of ego meanwhile this is doing is happening without the doer extreme bliss so you
can take more examples like this the sportsman or the rock climber the Mountaineer so on the engineer busy with
the Machine the scientist busy with the mathematics extremely blissful is there
an eye when there is a bliss this is the homework for you and you'll find that obviously there is no ego when the state
of mind is so happy in other ways direct
realization and that is the way of a yogi or a Gani do whatever you want
let the body mind do whatever it does but realize that it has been done there
is no I there is doing if the I thought comes let it come because that is also happening so I
am doing and then realize yes yes this should happen except don't fight with it
till let it happen this is a meta kind of attitude don't worry
oh I'm again in the eye pit well that is I which is thinking look at that that
which is never thinks it sees oh it gives in the pit let it be did you enjoy
that is the direct way it is blissful its blissful without doing letting now
I'll suggest a little bit of experiment that you can try if you don't believe me if you if you think it is not blissful
you should try this experiment while walking cooking cleaning or eating
do not talk simply notice all these things simply notice don't even think
that there is this I've been noticing experiences these are all
diseases useless the spiritual knowledge is of no use just notice see that there
is no I that is what you will see there will be thoughts of I I am noticing then notice that also keep doing whatever you
are doing very naturally look from the memory the intentions are coming they
are being processed and converted into actions there are consequences of the
actions some things were right some things don't there is corrective action there are emotions being generated by the actions
so on don't talk think whatever you want to think cannot stop thinking you see I can
stop thinking is you know just spiritual kind of ignorance delusion there is no I
and so no thinking so let it happen witness it I do it for five minutes if
you want because it's kind of steep curve initially while walking
let there be walking while eating let there be eating while cooking
let there be cooking notice the state of the mind you have tasted bliss it is
like walking in air it is so light can you get this by fighting with the by
techniques by forcing no you can now
experiment with talking also talk to people let there be talking I'm not saying talk
sweetly you can say anything you want obviously if there is so much awareness the words will take that time and only
the right speech will happen if there are self-correcting mechanisms in the mind that know what to speak is it very
very very extreme amount of intelligence there now it is you know do not express
because of the ego because the ego is all about survival so you see somebody you don't like and only the insults will
come out of the mouths your face the expression on your face will be discussed or you are poor and you see
rich person the free clicking behavior will start automatically that is ego so
experiment while talking also and see what kind of talk comes out if it is not
as per the standards of ethics don't worry there is no such thing all ethics
is now let it come out and then see that itself corrects see that you
don't need to think for one hour to know the consequences it is there as soon as the intention to speak is there the
consequence is seen right there you don't need a PhD to know what is right and wrong you need only awareness do it
for 5 minutes 10 minutes see that while talking there is bliss it is not gone
does not go away and if you are some kind of hardcore person then do it in
the difficult moments of your life if there is a pain in the body when there
is extreme tiredness when you're going through a bad situation somebody has done something irritating try to be
egoless try to see it then we will happening there is no need to correct anything
because trying to correct this again I am doing wrong and then I need to change
it the eye is there till it'll happen it will self-correct that is guaranteed probably may not
happen in first time second time you need to persist for those who don't get
it you know they're very very intellectual people like what how do I even do do that know that that means
people like me so there is a technique because because the eye does not stop
very easily for them you can comment on what the body mind is doing you're
walking and there are thoughts everywhere you know they're showering like rain you comment these thought is
coming that thought is coming the feet are moving people are passing you're
typing you're looking at the screen you are just sitting there comment on that
the body is sitting the body got although it is not recommended but if
too much intellect if the intellect is very strong this labeling will lead you to noticing
because before that you did not even notice there was so much I so I don't recommend that you keep doing this all
of your life it is in a madness do it as an experiment see that it is possible to
notice without the eye once you get a taste of noticing you should let go of
labeling otherwise it's anyone natural initially the mind is too strong and it
cannot help but come and done what is going on there will be thoughts so when
there is thought of labeling notice it also you will find that this is
unnecessary to label anything the knowledge is enough this is happening this is the direct way you can go
through the way of karma also through action do that which you love to do
and you will be evil less automatically can there be anything more natural than
that to do the work skillfully is yoke to conduct your life skillfully
beautifully is to be in the Bliss now
those who practice the bliss in ordinary moments of the life this will get
carried over in the difficult moments of the life now there is a category of
people who is there no my life is too difficult I don't have time to practice and look at that ego it is too strong
how do you get the time to sleep it is there an ego there you see all your
problem starts when you wake up and then I am not implying here that you should not wake up I am saying that notice the
waking up the eye also wakes up with the body and mind problems start with the
eye not with waking up so there are people who will say that you mean should
I keep noticing I should not live my life or should not solve my problems and all and there you can see the ignorance
there you can do this all while being egoless wake up
notice the ego arising it's very easy to notice it initially it is not there if you pay attention and the first ego
thought will actually pull you out of the bed it is so strong I need to do this and then out of the bed that's why
people don't want to wake up on Sundays because nothing to do it is freedom
there that's why people like those days when they are not forced to do anything and on doing this blissful there is a
freedom there it is tiny amount of bliss the experience when it is Sunday that
which you are is infinite bliss and look what has happened to it look how the
life has become this is the disease of the ego disease of the separate self the
identity attachment with the body mind there are hundred more words that describe this
situation the yogi does is not a magician you see he has simply realized
this thing is a common sense you know it's kind of very easy when child can understand life can continue in whatever
form it should only with bliss as the background isn't that what everybody
wants we all want happiness we all want freedom and the easy way to get it is to
let go of the ego [Applause]
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