Atman Brahman Ishwara

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you see the essence of

eye or that which is unchanging the

invisible the dark background the space

like background of

consciousness is the self it is easy

it's easy to know the mind likes it

actually oh finally i'm not this pile of

junk it's a body

i'm not this a pile of thoughts in the

mind or the person pile of memories i'm

not all that

freedom finally i'm pure nothingness

shivoham but

next day the guru is going to break it

because it is being understood from the

mind you see the mind stops here also it

is not a small thing i am not saying

that

let us not underestimate the importance

of self-realization it is but it is only

the first step there are only two steps

and the path of non-duality this is the

first step

it's like the second step is look that

which appears

is also the same thing that which

witnesses the appearance the witness is

appearance and the appearance is witness

the consciousness of experience is equal

to the experience is there anything to

the experience except consciousness of

experience

take any experience you want the exotic

experience somehow the experience

the daily experience

well

it is all consciousness of experience

consciousness of experience is

consciousness there is no separate thing

as consciousness which resides somewhere

you know underground in another

dimension

and then the experience appears in front

of it and the gray gets impressed with

the experiences takes hold of it and

calls it oh my experience no it is your

fantasy it is your delusion it is your

ignorance to think like this

why why this thought appeared it is

activity of the mind

my mind is you know trying to get and

get

you use its logical faculties its

intelligence

to imagine a mechanism of the experience

and the experience sir no there is no

mechanism believe me or not if there

were like this if there were duality

we would have found it long ago in this

appearance that you called this planet

earth immensely intelligent people

appeared and disappeared

immensely intelligent very powerful they

could not find it

could not find the duality they could

not find the mechanism through which the

experience appears and the experiencer

gets it no two they say no two i cannot

find the one also but i cannot find the

two also i'm talking about giants the

spiritual giants nobody could find it

now but i'm not discouraging you who

knows who you may find it you know and

you are you will that get the you will

then get the nobel prize of spiritual

spirituality but it is very simple it is

very simple to see

there is no difference between the

experience and experiencer

what has happened is that your notion

your idea that the experience there must

be nothingness the experiencer must be

something exotic paradigmational para

human non-material thing

the emptiness must be some pure

emptiness of the divine kind this this

is your expectation and that is that

that is the only thing that went wrong

otherwise it's all whatever you know

it's in front of you the oneness is

right here right now in front of you you

don't need to go anywhere you don't even

need the guidance it is your experience

right now the oneness is your experience

right now if you remove all these

delusions all these you know imaginary

thoughts from your mind if you remove

the words remove the atm and throw away

the brahman it's nothing like this

these are only words throw them away

look at what is happening and look at

your direct experience the approach

it is experiencing and that's all it is

conscious experiencing there is nothing

else nothing else that which appears

also appears in that which witnesses it

nothing appears nothing is witnessed

so

oneness is our experience right now

throw away these concepts throw away the

atman it's not there throw away the

brahman it's not there they are not two

individual things

which have separated and then you must

twist your body and do the

knowle kriya dhoti kriya and you know bs

like that to unite these two no they're

already one they're already united throw

away the thoughts that tell you that

they are to

look just look see that is why it is

called seeing and that is why those who

know oneness are called seers

and that is why the whole

knowledge is called darshan darshan

means to see in sanskrit so philosophy

is not darshan you see darshan is not

philosophy darshan is that which is

right here right now philosophy is

cooked up something by the mind i don't

know whether there is any proper english

word for the darshan but in india we

have different meanings um in sanskrit

at least not in india

the india is now a different thing this

subcontinent which was there

uh

where this knowledge evolved

and it distinguished between darshan and

the philosophy the philosophy is called

means talk

it comes from the word which means to

talk

and yes it is just talk philosophy is

just talk hot air

coming from the mouth i don't know if

there is something like this in western

cultures but

here the distinction is very very clear

that which people talk about is

philosophy that which is seen is darshan

do not give it the name of reality truth

or dare is true no no no just like i

said nothing is true here nothing is

false it is that we just see seen

darshan that the one who sees it is

arsenic is the seer so who can become a

seer well everybody is a seer right now

remove the wad remove the philosophy

from it you become the seer now there is

no need to talk about it you see the

wise men do not talk those who don't

know they keep talking like i'm talking

because you need to talk sometimes

just to tell others do not talk so

silence is the greatest teaching you

know you know the meaning of it now you

understand the meaning of this great

teaching you know silence is the great

teaching greatest teaching

and why do they say that because

just see you will know

talk probably you won't know you'll

never know my talks

see there is oneness right now right

here the consciousness of the experience

is both consciousness and experience

experiencing is both experience and

experiencer the brahman is both atman

and brahman in the atman is both brahman

and atman it is also the maya it is also

the appearance

and now for the purpose of studying and

for the purpose of philosophy

you can divide it go on dividing it and

go and giving it names and forms and

whatever now anil is saying

yeah welcome anil and he is asking and

does the darshan and eternal concept

beyond life and death

well darshan is

not a concept just like i said darshan

is pure seeing whatever you're seeing

right now and

life and death is concepts

life and death they are concept in the

mind you see because

something appears

in which we see in the drishy

and then the mind comes in mind also

appears you see it comes and starts

dividing it into different forms names

and

different entities and they are all

concepts

so it sees birth it sees death by the

way life and death you cannot put them

together you can put birth and death

together so you can say concept beyond

birth and death because life is eternal

life goes on

you can say

life is that which is happening life is

that which is being seen

the pure consciousness is nothing but

life so

but life is you see everything is living

everything is eternal there is nothing

else here except life

all that appears is a living appearance

and therefore people say that the

consciousness isn't eternal i never die

well the eye you have slapped the eye on

the consciousness on the atman and

therefore you are very truly very

correctly entitled to say that i don't

die this appearances they they appear

and disappear the birth and death they

happen the seeing that which is seeing

never disappears never dies

so

yes yes seeing is beyond life death

birth appearance disappearance you can

say like this and if this statement

comes out of the seeing itself then it

is a useful statement otherwise

i don't see any use of it so no

direction is not a concept life and

death are concepts

birth and death are concepts birth and

death they come and go they appear

disappear that which is seen that which

is witnessing the birth and deaths and

that which appears in form of the

born and the dead both are same then

they are the same they are the darshan

anyhow this is my interpretation and

there will be somebody else who will you

know write another book into

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in

on this topic of darshan so most welcome

you're most welcome to explore you say

explore what the great minds say

so i think anil has more questions

and

we'll put the issue of the guides on

hold a little bit because that was just

a warm up exercise

face asking now

what's the difference between brahman

and ishwar

is he sure some sort of mega mind of

prakrti has so many words

so yeah we are most welcome explore

explore the um other philosophies also

for their darshans also because nowadays

we have

we are mixing too much we have become

very liberal in mixing the words

darushan is philosophy in hindi

it's all it's their wish who can stop

people but please keep in mind loosely

talking we call philosophies as

direction because some because

philosophy is what it is an attempt to

get to the uh

that which is seeing there is no no

other use of philosophy even though we

surely know that simply the word the

talking

the ism is not going to bring the same

so what is the difference between

so many words you see

brahman falls in the domain of advaita

vedant

ishwar comes from the sank

and pragarti also comes from the sank

the purush in prakrti the ishwar also

comes from the yog darshan

if you want to call it yog darshan later

on some people they mixed all of them

some of the buddhism and some of uh sunk

into the modern advaith which is not

modern which is as old as shankaracharya

2000 years probably thousand years 1500

years and there were some really genius

people

like

and um

they you know they brought back the

niruga cut down all the mess that

happened in the

advaith philosophy so i always mix all

these dates and people so never mind

these if you mix

different words from different

philosophies you will be confused so

then you will start asking what is the

difference between this word which was

in this philosophy and that word which

was in the other philosophy the

as as far as i know although i am not a

pandit i do not i do not interpret there

if you look at the spiritual text you

know it's not my expertise

what i see i tell you and what i see is

that you know the issuer was imported

from sankey philosophy into the vedanta

there is no ishwar in advaithv it is

non-theistic philosophy you don't need

to worship anything because the ishwar

then became an object of worship in this

subcontinent you see now people

translate the issue as god which is not

correct

so let me tell you what these words mean

according to my own understanding who

knows you know i probably am wrong but

let me put or submit to you what i think

are these the brahman is you know

appears from the veda

and it is the existence it is all that

is it comes from the word

which means the big

like

and

it is all that is the existence itself

and then it goes on to say that which i

think is i am is all that is that is the

whole essence you see that is the one

mahava ke hamra masmi and that ends the

philosophy or the direction ends there

with this scene now there were very

practical people you know highly

intelligent people they said it does not

work for me yes probably it is one yes

okay but does not work

what works for me is

when i divide the one into two and the

sanket did that they divided the one

into two and the purush in prakriti

became

now ishwar is a concept which is a form

the manifested prakrti

is called ishwar yes he said is some

sort of megamind

of prakrti manifested existence is

issuer and

as you know there is nothing more in the

manifestation except that which is

created by the mind so

yes it is the nature of the

manifestation you can say not of the

existence not of the existence the

existence is nirvana it has no nature it

is also all nature happens in the

existence in the brahman so the

manifested that which appears is mind

its nature is mental its nature is that

of mind that is issuer

and because it is a mind's collection of

memories collection of information this

is information processing system so all

that gets organized here survives

and

whatever could get organized whatever

information could get organized because

of the natural tendency of the

self-organizing systems to organize

themselves you see whenever there is

change there is information and it tends

to organize this is the fundamental rule

of manifestation

it tends to organize and all that could

be organized and it is very big it is

infinite in almost infinite and it's

growing so just a sea of memories

sea of metaphysical patterns

changing patterns sometimes i call it

the universal mind because very easy to

understand individual mind universal

mind individual mind is a happening in

the universal mind so the jiv

is a happening in the ishwar ji is a

part of the issue a child of the issuer

and when people realize this they

started seeing ishwar as a means of

fulfillment of their desires because

something so big

and obviously it can fulfill your

desires so and the g has nothing else

there is no other goal

for the g except fulfillment of desires

or attainment of happiness and freedom

that's what rajiv wants that is the part

of the issue where it wants it and

obviously it is fulfilling the desires

obviously there is no separate jeep from

the issuer

so it then became theistic people

started worshiping it in various forms

and

started

thinking

in terms of the afters that the issuer

can take that this universal mind can

appear in and yes it can appear in any

any form you see

it is immensely powerful and it is it

has no limits at all

probably that you know answers this

question

do not mix between philosophies or the

different versions it will cause

confusion so that's why you know when i

wrote or when i recorded or talked about

it i just you know kicked out all the

old words

all the sanskrit words and i you know

adopted the modern words which it's like

the universal mind or the individual

mind and made it very very clear they

are the same you see

they are the same

the water in the jar is same as the

water in the pond just dip the jar in

the point where is the

difference

you see the jar breaks and it's all one

universal mind it is a dream of the

universal mind to think that i am an

individual

and and that i have a life

it is a dream so we are even dream of

the issuer it is a state of the mind of

the issue this whole world whatever has

appeared and then we do loosely say that

the issue ishwar created all these

things just like i create my dream in

there this individual mind creates a

dream in the sleeping state

he sure is sleeping dreaming the world

that's why the form of the vishnu

is always sleeping

he's sleeping on a giant snake

five-headed snake the snake is called

shesh

shesh means remaining remaining what you

know remaining energy remaining energy

of the manifestation it is behind the

manifestation it is behind the vishnu

who is also called as an um avatar of

ishwar

equal to ishwar so different people they

gave different words and you know even

anthropomorphized gave them

hands and feet and stuff made stories

nowadays we just sing songs

and enjoy the songs immensely very nice

songs

but

yes it all these sim symbology has very

deep meaning people saw it people

imagined it people tried to represent it

and then corruption happened turned all

into mindless worship religions of all

kinds there are many you can see hardly

anybody knows what they're worshiping

isn't it

that is you know as a spiritual seeker

we are all

freed from this ignorance as soon as you

you know the essence you know all that

is happening here all the madness you

can see it

uncorrupted the pure form pure knowledge

is here

all you need to do is you know ask your

guru sir what is the meaning of the

snake why is sleeping on the snake what

is lakshmi doing there you see what is

brahma doing there

on lotus and

you see it all can be explained you

don't need to worship it only the people

who don't want to know they use blind

faith those who want to know it is all

here the knowledge is all here so

it is also called

the snake is a representation of the

energy somehow probably

they found it very good representation

and also called kundalini nowadays in

the tantric

what you call philosophies in the

tantric sects

and the same shesh will be called as

kundalini so evolutionary energy yes it

is creating it is doing its evolution

how can i awaken the kundalini you

cannot

you are a manifestation of kundalini you

cannot awaken it it is

you can accelerate it because you are

the issuer you are it so just you know

follow simple rules

evolve in the direction where it is

already going and your experiences will

be speeded up now we are deep into the

illusion isn't it we are deep into the

maya

a person who is on the path of knowledge

is not very concerned about these things

because

knows everything those who don't know

they are doing the attempts they are

doing the hard work

they are doing the prayer

again he does not do hard work

only only the agani is doing it so it's

probably good it's okay someday they

will awaken to this fact

that it cannot be achieved by hard work