everybody to meet and discuss the spiritual matters you can ask your questions and get your doubts cleared
and we also do the works related to The Path of Knowledge program here like
exams and all so we are going to start with an exam today which is of paramjit
so I would like to know whether paramjit is present and are you ready for the
test today [Music] okay you will get 10 questions and you
will need to score at least 50 percent or more to continue to the step number four of the program
meanwhile everybody should simply listen do not try to answer the questions we'll
discuss the answers later on so these are your questions read
carefully take your time all the best all right my first question is
mention five advantages and five disadvantages of The Path of Knowledge
five advantages is there are many advantages
but the removal of ignorance Bliss pure happiness
freedom for all the sorrows there are no disadvantages in The Path
of Knowledge there is none but there are many advantages like Freedom Bliss ignorance removal free
from sufferings free from anger free from uh uh all worldly problems
question number two which qualities are desired but not absolutely necessary for a Seeker
the quality is desired intense desire for
knowledge intense desire for Freedom curiosity skeptical
face to the program open-minded
and the necess but are not absolutely
necessary for Seeker no practices no rituals not we need to attach to someone
uh no strict uh practices needed number three what is truth can there be
subjective truth we categorize the truth in Path of
Knowledge in uh two categories like true or false
the truth is uh arbitrary changes from person to person
and the subjective truth is achieved from person to person everybody have
their own truth uh secret use relative truth
for uh that's it the truth is that's the truth the truth and we use the truth for to
know uh on the passive knowledge for the truth which is never changes and false just
changes what never changes that's the natural and essence
the nature of us of all the objects never changes
experiencer never changes nature never changes
why the existence empty that's the nature of the existence
nature of the existence emptiness it appears empty
but is full of potential is full of existence all that which is
perceived unperceived it has this universe many universes it
has passed present future physical non-physical metaphysical mental normal
mental it has truth it has false in it it is dreamlike
you can stuff any name it has in it but is all the potential it is not what
it looks like but it is there number six is my Essence is changing I'm
changing why are there changes in me such as old is happiness suffering
thoughts Etc my Essence is unchanging my Essence is my
experience my nature why are the changing because
my body my happiness my suffering my thought my
emotions those are all experiences and the experience or changing those are false so they will
be changing when will The Experience stop experience
has no beginning and no end it's non-temporal
infinite non-local everywhere it will never stop
what can be known about the illusion simply via observation
we know the experiences experiences
by the observing through our senses
senses show us what is in the illusion but there's nothing to know in the
illusion it's all illusion all we know is the negative knowledge in the
illusion which experience proves that there is
only vibration all experiences
or composed of vibrations
vibrations are simple binary change
and and which can be present by yeah why why
observation which experience proves that there is
only vibration because the change vibration is a change and all the experiences are changes
so that's what we know they experience proves that there's vibration vibration is the theory uh model we have we have
come up with in The Path of Knowledge which memory is most limited and which
memory is biggest the memory is uh a illusion
it is not bigger it's not small they are all the same but if we go by smaller memory or bigger
memory the local memory is smaller
group of memory is bigger than that and the greater memory is biggest than them but they are all in the Universal memory
and the memory stays in the npnm structure
guruji I did my best I know my communication skills are need to be
cultivated so thank you for everything thank you everybody okay thank you you
get 5.5 marks out of 10 which is satisfactory but you can do better but
anyway you are pass and you get entry into the step number four of the program now
it is a little bit on the borderline and some of the answers were not so detailed
but still you have the basic knowledge so you can do the experiments of the
waking state in the step number four so now we are going to discuss these questions in short very very
brief answers will be given to those questions that are that were wrong so I
think half of the questions half of the answers were wrong but the basics yes
they were good answers clear answers so my suggestion will be to sharpen these
abilities more try to meditate more contemplate more on the teachings and
you will come to know the mistakes as we proceed
so number one was mention five advantages and five disadvantages of The Path of Knowledge
so he very correctly told the advantages but he said there are no disadvantages
because this is very subjective question you know everybody will have their own opinions about The Path of Knowledge we
can say that there can be some disadvantages from the point of view of
some Seekers for example Path of Knowledge has the disadvantage that it
requires high level of intelligence it is not for common people
and then it requires a lot of study writing skills communication skills so
on it requires nowadays we don't require it but still we require some knowledge
of Sanskrit or old texts so like this we can find out some disadvantages of The
Path of Knowledge and there are no practices here there is no self-cultivation here like this people
can find out some problems in The Path of Knowledge but if you do not see any problems here no disadvantages then also
it is okay because it will be very very subjective for many people there are only
disadvantages here because it does not give you any powers any strange
experiences anything that can fulfill your desires nothing is achieved here
like this these qualities characteristics of The Path of Knowledge can be viewed as a disadvantage by many
people who are not ready for this path so number two which qualities are desired but are not absolutely necessary
for a Seeker you already know the qualities that are necessary for the Seeker you know the first is intense
desire for Liberation from the ignorance and curiosity to know open-mindedness
and all these things are necessary then there comes a long list of qualities which are preferable desirable but some
of them can be absent in the Seeker it's like ability to collect the essence
of the lecture in few lines because that can be learned you don't need to have it
ready made in you critical thinking if there is a little bit of physical illness it's okay it's
not absolutely necessary to be an athlete to get trained in on The Path of Knowledge you can have a normal body but
that is not the case for other paths for example the yogic paths and all where you need a very fit body
so like this we can find out some qualities that are not absolutely necessary that can be cultivated with
time as you progress on the path you will get these qualities
by the way he got no marks in this question he says his answer what was not
good enough and third is the same he did not answer it properly which is what is
truth can there be subjective truth so probably I could not hear but that was
not a complete answer so what is truth according to our definition it is the classification of experiences that is
truth why do we need to classify them in order to act that's all this definition
has been given we start from here and we find out that all the experiences get classified as
false and only the experiencer remains which is truth
and the second part of the question was can there be subjective truth and yes
all the truths are subjective only it is subjective and arbitrary classification
depending on the need necessity and we knowingly choose a criteria which takes us to the ultimate we do not choose
anything which is smaller we do not compromise here when it comes to the
choice of criteria for truth so unchanging is truth yes
number four was what never changes and he answered it very correctly number five why is existence empty and
again no marks so I want to ask this question in the meeting if anybody wants to answer this thing why is existence
empty why it is not full any guesses remember this is a trick question the question itself is wrong
Sanjay is saying it lacks substance very good answer but this is the why question
you see you can again Ask the why why it lacks substance why is there a lack of substance and existence
simply telling the definition of emptiness is not going to answer the question you need a reason why question
means you need a reason lack of substance means you are answering the what question what is emptiness
Madhuri is saying there is emptiness only there is no reason that is a very good answer Crescent is saying because
rest is Maya or Illusion no the existence has everything you know there is no such thing like existence on the
one side and the rest on the other side the illusion is the existence
surprising existence has no attributes there is no thing it is just a life
presence why is saying if there is something that
becomes experienced there is no reason there is no reason yes that is the right answer
you see when we analyze the existence experience experience it will never find
a reason because reason is something which is man-made which means it is
assumed in existence there are no reasons for anything then the little intellect of the humans because it can
see some reasons in its everyday life which are actually connected to survival
only it tries to project impose a reason on the whole existence so why is it
empty why does why is it like that why is it you know wants to know the reason
but it is an impossibility to find a reason you'll see existence is what it is
experience and experiencer now you try to find the reasons for these two phases
of the existence and you will never find it reason also means the cause why also
points to the cause and when we say why is existence empty we are actually asking what is the cause of emptiness in
the existence that can be one meaning of this question what caused emptiness in this whole existence and as you know
there are no causes in the existence the cause is simply an invention of the mind
it is an illusion all causes are illusory there can be a infinite series of causes
if I tell you one cause you can always ask what is the cause of that and there will be an infinite series of causes
which is totally illogical if existence were yellow you could ask
why is it yellow and I could have answered you know something silly but then you can again Ask Why is it like
this what is the reason for the reason so ultimately existence simply is
emptiness is existence existence is emptiness there is no why it is just like saying why is circle round now
round is circle and circle is round there is no y here that is what it is
you should be very careful about the play of words here when we say emptiness we are actually pointing to the
existence not a quality of the existence the existence has no qualities at all devoid of qualities so those who think
that the emptiness is a quality in my existence no substance less equal to
existence it's not a quality okay hopefully everybody is satisfied
with this answer so we go forward number six his answer was correct whatever
changes is simply not me this is a question that is asked by newcomers with
you told me that I am unchanging but look so many things are changing in me that means the self-realization has not
happened at all the self-realization is simply ability to distinguish between what is changing and what is unchanging
as simple as that check what is changing check what is not changing and that happens self-knowledge happens so if it
does not happen then there will be confusion look this is me and I am changing and that this question brings
out this kind of ignorance but paramjeet got it right number seven when will The Experience
stop so his answer was again right experience is timeless the time is an
experience and number eight what can be known about the illusion simply by observation that answer was wrong he
probably said nothing can be known we are at a relative level here and the word knows known points to whatever can
be learned by simple observation of the our experience so there is a big chapter
about it in in your program probably he forgot the chapter so what can be known
first thing the illusion is always changing Continuous Flow the illusion is
emptiness it has no substance behind it it is not made up of something then the
illusion is cyclic it changes in Cycles then it is fractal self-similar
self-organizing see there are many things which you can learn simply by looking at any
experience so the whole list is given in the program number nine which experience proves that there is only vibration and
he was right although he's little bit got confused in the beginning but later he said all the experiences simply show
the vibration yes not which experience all experiences simply prove the
presence of vibration and those who cannot understand me probably they are not in the program or you can take it as
your homework number 10 which memory is most limited which one is the biggest so although
paramjit was right he got full marks I want to ask this question in the meeting there is no right answer no wrong answer
for this is it even possible to know which one is the biggest we have invented some names you know Universal
memory and all that do we really know and which is most limited he said local memory but you see local memory for a
human is different than a local memory for an insect so what is the correct
answer according to people here anybody wants to answer which memory can be taken as most limited and which one is
probably unlimited or biggest had answered local memory is limited
Universal memory is biggest which is exactly the answer given by paramjit I think that is also mentioned in the
program somewhere we start from the local memory any other gases because just like I said it does not have any
proper answer guesswork only there are one or two criteria for deciding the
limitedness or freedom of a memory area you see when we say local memory we are pointing to an area in the memory so
there can be one criteria which is not mentioned in the program actually that we can use the Criterion of freedom to
label which one is limited which one is biggest because limited means lack of
Freedom isn't it we are not simply talking about the size that memory area which has most rules is
most rule bound will be limited and a memory area which is which uh hardly has
any rules will be more free but the word used here is biggest so it can be
confusing Rajiv is saying waking street is limited we are not talking about States we're
talking about memories state is something different from the memory so
you can say that you see the rule-bound areas are limited whatever is their size
that can be one answer because you see memory has no size really when we say
Universal memory is the biggest what are we saying really we are saying it has more potential can we measure the memory
areas in square meter square kilometer no it is it is
non-spartial non-temporal also npnm
location and P and M memory is a model to explain the structure of Illusion it
is only perceived to be limited to create meaningful experience for humans very good he went one step deeper that
look the limitation is also an illusion he is saying like this that has the advantage that the
experience will be meaningful that is exactly correct answer you see so it
depends on what Criterion is used to find out the limitations
sky is saying memory could be just existence it's possibilities that were in our awareness
mixture of words if you do not know the definition of memory probably you won't be able to
answer it where do we Define all these terms memory existence possibility
awareness where are they defined in the program so you will not understand what
we are saying here what is being discussed you will not understand if you are not
in the program so these words do not have the common dictionary meanings they are exactly defined on The Path of
Knowledge so yes the limitation is taken on eventually the memory is not limited and
since there is no big or small in the existence everything we say about the memory is meaningless remember the law
of relativity not the theory of relativity law of relativity which means everything exists in comparison to
something else isn't it if we say that the universal memory is the biggest it
must be a relative statement which is totally meaningless isn't it
if you put another memory in front of it it will become smaller than that why can
why can we put another memory before it because in finite possibility so the law
of relativity renders these kind of statements meaningless this is bigger
that is better this is more beautiful that is ugly you see it's all relative statements hmm so what seemed like a
simple question is actually a rabbit hole of possibilities you can explore
you know why do we choose to call something limited when it is simply a possibility
so here is the question and answer for today if anybody has any other questions most welcome
paramjit is some comments I am very happy that you got the benefit of the
program you got the benefit of the videos and our satsang very happy so you
have a lot of potential and you will progress very nicely continue the program and this is this must be the
story of many people that everything changed for better and whatever they thought became worse is
only purification the unnecessary will be dropped and that will look like you know something some harm is happening
but no the spiritual path will simply purify then the Mind puts the labels
this happened and it was good that happened it was bad we simply washed the
mind in awareness Sky saying I'm doing The Path of Knowledge program and so far I've done
few lessons existence is possibilities are experiences so can we choose those
possibilities and how what are the limitations what are limitations to that choosing
is the choice means that there is an agency there is somebody who does the
analysis you know relative advantages disadvantages things and so on and that
is called a person but you will learn that there is no person it is an illusion so whatever this illusion does
is also an illusion so whatever choices it is making is
simply an illusion what is your essence the one that is witnessing all these all of this drama
and it does not choose anything it simply accepts everything unconditionally
whatever kind of experience is presented whatever appears simply witnessing so my
suggestion is to continue on the program till you get to the chapter of
self-realization and Oneness and all these questions will be answered why there is no person why everything is
illusion you know progress up to at least chapter number 20 with the short answer that I have given is sufficient
for now try to investigate the reality of the person who is making choices and you
will find nobody you will find only processes happening processes of decision making process of liking
disliking depending on past Impressions like a program it runs and then there is
a process that arises a thought arises and this is my choice
this me and mine who says it can somebody answer me those who have progressed in the program who takes this
responsibility of choosing something after the choice has happened anybody wants to answer
yes paramjit is Right ego I mean why is everybody else silent have you forgotten
the lessons gravising the body mind no we are talking about a process there is
a process that runs after everything has happened and it says it is mine it is
required for survival the body Minds is a machine it does not say anything one mind is not an entity it's a collection
of patterns vibrating patterns it is the ego the process of the ego the
layer of the ego that activates after everything has happened and says it is my decision this is my choice there is
nobody there so her question was so can we choose we means what you could have
asked can I choose and what is the I here you need to know you need to define
the eye first and if R is the ego no that is an illusion if I is the
experiencer then it does not do any kind of choice it is simply witness of all
the illusory choices disguising at some point ego is making a
conscious choice to learn what you're teaching or being gravitated towards self-realization that is what appears to
be the case so ego is not making a choice ego is claiming that it is my choice that is
the definition of ego the process that says I and me and mine the process that
owns some events in the mind or the body in the world that is called ego
so what is the meaning of conscious Choice the choices are not conscious and the ego is not conscious it is simply an
activity only you are conscious only the Consciousness is conscious which does
not do anything it is not the Doer so it simply appears that the individual
is doing something deciding something then decides to get the knowledge it is
okay we can say like this but it is the relative truth from the absolute point of view it simply happened like this and
then the claim was made I did this so since you are new we can give you
some concession that okay you are doing it it was your choice very good choice
now continued on your path if I tell you that there is nobody there
to do anything then probably everything will stop so usually for new Seekers
this concession is given that look the truth is that there is no no doer there
are no choices there is only illusion but for newcomers because they cannot understand this thing we say okay you
choose because you you have the ability to choose you choose something good and progress do something that much can be
allowed but as you progress you will drop all this I and me and mine they will be
replaced by being that's all simply being my Essence is simply being
whatever happens here simply my own false appearance
that's all is the knowledge this is the basic knowledge Essential Knowledge
so till that happens you can continue choosing and what is the original question there can we choose those
possibilities yes you can choose those possibilities if you want how to choose them that is called the
intention make an intention that whatever is beneficial for me should happen if you don't know what to choose
you can choose something which is General net whatever is most beneficial for me let that happen very simple make
this intention very very strong and the choice will be made probably you are asking how to arrive at
the correct choice this must be learned by experience the actions that are producing happiness and freedom they are
good choices and the actions that are producing suffering and bondage not so
good so follow the compass of happiness and you will see that this will lead to
good choices check whether this choice is going to
produce long-term happiness long term freedom and that must be chosen
so this is the answer at the relative level and the absolute level completely meaningless
so this is something like the Free Will question many people ask this do I have free will and the immediate answer is if
you are doubtful then you probably don't have it why are you asking if you have
it why are you trying to confirm it so the answer that is given here is for the
relative knowledge for the new Commerce is yes you have the free will now use it
to will something good something beneficial for everyone something
beautiful and that is you know the step forward for them if you simply tell them
no there is no free will probably they will find some other paths where there is frugal
so this business of lying is very common this is called incremental knowledge
or I've called it the multi-level knowledge as the student progresses bigger and bigger doses are given the
better truth is told in incrementally and then I told that you know Path of
Knowledge is not multi-level teaching the final thing is told in the beginning then you know that is a Bomb Blast and
now you need to make sense of it why was this sad what is the evidence for this
what are the means of knowledge what gives you the evidence now the whole you
know process of The Path of Knowledge starts it's like a circle you start from the
top then arrive at the top again this time with all the evidence verification
so now you understand the presence of first lesson in the program that gives
you the complete knowledge in few words you know five minutes that's the complete knowledge then why do I need
the whole program because that is the process evidence Gathering verification
process so that is why I say in the beginning only that those who could understand
what I just said in the first chapter they need not continue the program who
should do it those who are still asking those who still have some doubt about
what was said now that doubt will be cleared step by step then you must be
wondering why this madness you know why don't you go step by step this is the tradition this is how it is presented in
all the scriptures thousands of years of teaching style is like this
so I was very much impressed by this style because it evolved after many
thousand years of teaching there is an advantage there going backwards so I
tried to copy that probably it's not that perfect copy but still some effort
was was made to go backwards in the 3D program we start from the
bottom not from the top and some people find very easy that way but on The Path of Knowledge program we start from the
top that is why it is difficult so those who have not done 3D so far they should do the 3D first probably that will help
okay I think Yaya has had some questions in the beginning but I can't find them
now can you type them again can I ask a question outside the context
of the program yes yes the satsang is not limited to program those who are not in the program they can also ask
anything but it must be about some kind of spiritual stuff
his question is actually what do I think about this classification by somebody
else now how can I comment about somebody else when I'm not the student
of that person but it is very good that you enjoyed that and you got some
insights out of that so my recommendation is to continue reading listening but because I have not done it
so it's kind of foreign thing to me sky is asking so does ego making any
choices is called karma yes you can say that the curb means actions and actions
happen only when a choice is made so we do not call it a choice we call it desire in traditional way the desires
appear and the actions happen that is what we say and Karma means that only
strangely there is no word in the scriptures or anywhere which is about
choosing in that word philosophy the Sanskrit word would be the need and it
is never mentioned that concept of making any choices is totally absent from this philosophy so you will need to
do this kind of you know manipulation of The Words which word fits the words like
choice and the best word is Will and will simply means desire vasana so yes
all the actions their eyes from the will and they result in some kind of experience good or bad that will be
called your action and the ego is held responsible you do
some kind of mistake and who gets the punishment usually the body mind gets the
punishment not the ego the ego then later on says that I got punished isn't it so it is totally
fictitious entity there is no ego suppose you fail in the exam and your parents slap you who gets the punishment
in the body not the ego by mistake you put your hand in the fire
burning candle whose action is this egos no but still it is an action and who
gets the fruits the body then the ego says oh I got burned I got punished and
then the whole story starts it was not my fault it was somebody else's fault
and the illusion then perpetuates like this like layers of the onion ultimately
there is nothing inside it's all illusion layers of illusions
so probably right now you won't understand what I'm saying but the working definition of karma is that yes
the actions made by the person or the ego actions done by a person it is very
strange because this is our everyday experience you see there is a will to eat junk food and the body suffers and
who takes the responsibility nobody you see in that case the ego should say
it was my decision it was my choice to eat that kind of food but it says no it
happened it is the fault of the shopkeeper who gave me the stale food bad food so it's very tricky you see so
this is usually seen in marriages it is their choice to marry and they say my
choice was correct but this person is very different from what I expected
so you see ultimately complete drama most of the time this thing which says I
Me Mine remains intact doesn't nothing happens to it continues to do that but
the body and mind suffers most of the time and not only that the body and mind is
the one that enjoys the good fruits and the claim is again taken by the ego that
who I did this I did something good produce happiness achieved something
there is is a very good metaphor given by Francis one of his talks that the ego
is like the Joker that takes the bow after the acrobat has done his show that
is the ego those who have seen these circus shows or other shows the Joker is the comedian and he fails it at every
performance that is his acting actually he makes people laugh but then he comes
in there comes on the stage in the Limelight and takes the bow that I am
the one who did all the performance you see so this is a very good metaphor yes
very accurate nothing is done by the ego still it is
the one who claims I did it but yes the newcomers will never understand these things
Nana is saying one day left hand spilled hot water on right leg right hand right
soothe leg felt burnt but ego sing I got burnt I am suffering yes actions happen
and the doer appears we all know why it appears because you know it's needed for survival it's needed for functioning in
a society also probably the society is the one that reinforces the ego more
because now there is a need to separate the individuals who did what the law and
the system needs to know whom we should blame whom we should praise and that this whole society then
enforces this wrong idea of there being a person probably the animals that live alone do
not have that much of the ego because the ego arises by looking at other people then then similar concept similar
imagination is made for the self just like others are doing their jobs others
are willing and acting there is one here that is willing and acting
see how beautiful this explanation is ego arose as a reaction to the society
as a survival mechanism evolutionary pressure to separate itself from the
group those who want to learn more about this psychology you see they can learn about this thing there was no ego in the
beginning the humans did not have an ego this is the story given in our
scriptures Indian scriptures and it was Heavenly age then the ego said I said I
am separate and then everything became hellish
so what is self-realization simply destruction of the ego you see you become that which you are and kick out
this Joker clown and you are again established in the place this is the
whole self-realization so now I remember that you know my one of my gurus said that you have your
problem I said what I don't have that kind of problem I'm very polite person
and so on but the correct meaning of this word was not told to me because you
know I was also new could not understand anything so my Guru said work on your ego kill it destroy it and then I said
how but I was never told how I was sent home
go home you will never understand you know you're stupid that's what my Guru used to say so I went home and I simply
meditated contemplated on what is this try to read about the ego and so on and
finally got some clues that it is a survival mechanism that is coming in between you and real you you and your
true nature this joke that is standing in between so that is why it is called ego death
self-realization is also called the ego death and nothing to fear because nothing dies because nothing was there
it is simply a realization that there is no person I am the universal not the
personal this is self-realization and yes the newcomers they struggle a
lot just like I struggled then I told my Guru after one month why didn't you simply tell me that I am the universal
there is no ego and the answer was that you are stupid you won't understand these things
see if he simply tell somebody that you are Universal thing you are the universe
you are the Brahman they will listen but they will not understand he is saying can we say ego is a
conceptual fictional theoretical selfie created by our own mind yes you see everything is like this not only ego
everything is like this all experiences are illusory these words you see the big words the mean one thing imagination
created by mind fictional theoretical Concepts what do these words mean
imaginary and what is the purpose for that you see survival so once you
progress the ego is no more needed and we are freed from this limitation being
the individual you can achieve this right now right here thanks to The Path of Knowledge
otherwise Mother Nature is actually taking you to the eagle estate it happens every night also it's kind of
useless to it isn't it fully operating from the ego and fully
knowing that it is a fiction it is imaginary is the correct way
and nobody told me this all you know this Path of Knowledge can be very confusing you guys are so lucky you get
all the pre-cooked answers but I never got these answers directly
so that is why there is questions and answers you see because I want to ensure that you you did not simply hear me you
understood it that is why we have questions and answers that is why I keep asking people who can tell me what is
this what is that and sometimes those who answer wrongly we need to pay more attention to these people
mostly on The Path of Knowledge the gurus don't do anything here so they simply sit and wait for the question and
the one who has more ignorance will ask more questions so obviously that is an
automatic process and he has given the Seeker is given tiny doses which do not
give them answers they give them the method to discover the answer
this happened to me many times but nobody has that kind of time nowadays isn't it it is a big deal that you are
doing this program you see where everything is told directly and imagine if I played like this go and discover
the EO yourself come after two months and find out who's looking come after one year these are the means direct
experience and logic I don't know what is logic okay study for five years come back you know this is the most most of
the time this happens on The Path of Knowledge imagine nobody nobody will know anything like this
intellectually understand it now what no no there is no such thing as intellectual understanding
direct experience and logic now that isn't it you heard it now find
out why that is true how will you find out and there is your Path of Knowledge yes
yes so you can see that Raman Marsh is doing exactly that he is not taking you step by step he is not doing any
multi-level teaching he is telling you directly now it is the job of the Seeker to find out why that is true and if you
cannot find out this path is useless and that is why in the program also you
see I say that if you cannot verify the teachings leave the path leave the program leave the guru no hope
that is how brutal this path is you see so you heard it listening is the first
phase what is the guru saying now contemplate on it verify it and then abide as the Brahman these are the steps
on The Path of Knowledge I try to you know replicate those steps
in our Path of Knowledge program exactly like the tradition is however it is very
funny that people think I am not traditional where will you go tell me can you invent
a better teaching method can you invent a better philosophy no it's all traditional simply changing the words
and the language does not make it new simply putting it online does not make it new this is age-old since the
beginning of the universe this is how the guru teaches the student there is no
better way so continue in the program all kinds of evidence is given there how to find out
I am Brahman everything is mentioned in clear detail and if you cannot understand we have the satsang
unfortunately you cannot go to Raman maharshi and ask this thing you know why did you say this that is why there is
the importance of a living Guru Not only living he must be approachable you should be able to talk to that Guru you
must be able to sit with that Guru for one or two hours per week at least just like we are doing
then these questions that this Guru said that and that Guru said that are
worthless because pay attention to what this Guru is saying who is alive in
front of you did you miss the teachings of the one who is talking to you
where is your attention there are much better teachers but there
are no more they are reduced to a book the book does not talk in satsang worthless talk to somebody who's alive
living embodiment of The Advocate knowledge then there is some hope of
progress if you are still trying to find the knowledge in the dead wood which is the book The Strange symbols in the book
which is the writing no hope pay attention to what is taught and it
is simply showing it is not teaching really the whole program is showing we do not say which show on The Path of
Knowledge how do we show simply by pointing the group points the guru never
tells you the knowledge so saying I am the Brahman does nothing useless then I
cannot cannot show you the Brahman also you see so I can only point where is the
problem why can't you see that which is in front of your eyes so I say don't look there look here that
is all I do there are some who can take the pointing at some keep looking at my finger look
at your experience look at that place where the finger is pointing to that is
the proper way to study on The Path of Knowledge look at your own experience and utilize
your own critical thinking your own intelligence to check what was said and
what is if you have a doubt you must ask if you do not ask you will never
progress so now you understand my mistake when I
went to my Guru I never asked I only asked this much you see I demanded tell
me this tell me that and the guru always said you will never understand you're stupid so it took many years for me to ask a
proper question and the proper question was how to know that I am not any experience I am not anybody I'm not any
thought or ego how how to know that and then that day the guru smiled he did not
call me stupid he said now you're ready finally you ask something which is
intelligent then he told we know everything by four means your experience logic scriptures
and Guru that was the end of Path of Knowledge isn't it end of Path of Knowledge
because the guru in the scripture can be reduced to experience and logic and everything appeared simply for me
actually I've done this kind of experiment with somebody I think I told in one of my such signs that I did not
tell who are you I did not tell all these complicated philosophy I simply told the means of
knowledge look this is the means of knowledge what can you find out right now without any biases after cleaning
your slate what do you see and you know what happened that fellow
came up with all the advaith he was intelligent with anybody reasonably intelligent person given the means of
knowledge will derive the whole advith in five minutes
so as a homework some people can try that 3D program we take three hours it is
actually three minutes knowing the truth can be so simple so easy so fast what is
preventing you you are not asking the right question and the guru cannot say like this please ask me this thing that
will be very very comical artificial way to teach so the guru simply waits for
the right time you see you are given one lie after another and then one day the right question comes that is the end
but I have seen that there is more sense of achievement in that kind of technique if I tell you everything you are the
Brahman now go home then the value of that knowledge is not really grasped this is not appreciated
that much yes I am the Brahman now I have to go to the job tomorrow
I don't have money nobody respects me nobody loves me now what
it will become just another trival fact that you learned somewhere so the gurus
are real geniuses they will make you realize who you are and then they will
make you appreciate what you have what did you get
this is part of the guru training isn't it so why we are not doing like this we
are doing that also you see that happens later because the knowledge is given then we wait for the student to realize
the value of that knowledge because you know probably it will be trashed so we
wait for the suffering to arise again and then the student comes back you told me I am blessed I have happiness I am
this there is suffering okay do you realize what did you learn you realized its importance is it that important for
you that you are using it in your day to day-to-day life what do I need to use it also
you were told about the awareness practice what happened no no I cannot do all these things you see I'm very busy
so you see nothing was understood nothing was appreciated if the knowledge has not become the most important thing
in your life probably nothing was understood so that is called the seeding of
knowledge which many people have heard it many times from my mouth seeding of knowledge we are interested in that we
cannot force people to appreciate it we're not force people into some kind of practice we see it and they come back
those who are ready they will come back then the cultivation happens those who are not ready they go away
they are lost somewhere but the seed will remain they will search search and they will find exactly the same
knowledge everywhere they will probably realize that I wasted my time but nothing can be done
so those who have made a spiritual life their top priority they are very lucky probably they are more lucky than those
who simply heard it probably there are no more questions today so we'll end our satsang here and
congratulations to paramjit all the best you will be surely successful and thank
you everybody for attending today today's such thing I'll see you next time
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