PEOS 202: Diwali, Terminology, Teachings, Necessary, Grace, Gurus

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hello and welcome to Pure experiences online satsang this satsang is an opportunity for everybody to meet and

discuss the spiritual topics you can ask your questions get your doubts cleared

and those who are doing the program this is the support system satsang is the way

to interact and learn so all questions are invited Graham is asking can you talk about

Diwali as a Westerner all I know is it is the Festival of Lights and is

associated with Lakshmi yes but it is also New Year start of a new year and

the rest is simply like any other worship celebration party is shopping

and from the point of view of The Path of Knowledge the light here means the light of awareness so all of these

things have no significance except the light and then anybody will say why

should we light the light of awareness only once per year what about the 364

days so somebody on The Path of Knowledge celebrates Diwali every day by

lighting the lamp of awareness Within there is no need to show off there is no

need to spend money like crazy or to pollute the atmosphere or to do the blind worship of some strange gods and

goddesses celebrate it every day and you will get the joy of it every day why

wait for one day in one year to get the joy of it when you can have it every day

so anybody on The Path of Knowledge totally discards the celebrations done

by Ordinary People they are not only useless they are very limited and the

Ordinary People themselves they don't know what they are doing actually for them it is nothing more than eating and

shopping so the festivals of significance happen every day for a Seeker you can celebrate

any day not on a day prescribed by some random Society some random culture you

are free you don't need to give it a name which everybody has given and you don't need

to do the ritual which these mindless people are doing mindlessly you make it your own you celebrate it whenever you

want however you want and I do it every day actually every day is Festival

somebody who is still following the society is slave of the society the

knowledge has made no difference at all some people will say no I need to

celebrate because my family celebrates that that is your bondage it cannot be called an excuse it has to be a bondage

some people will say I like it when everybody celebrates I enjoy that is

another bondage dependency you are deriving your happiness from the celebrations of others and there can be

many more excuses all you need to remember is that you are totally free not bound by the rituals festivals and

whatever of these people who mean nothing to you especially when these days all these

festivals are totally distorted those who celebrate it they don't really know what they're doing and if you join in

thinking that it's a good thing you are actually doing a disservice

as you know the Lakshmi is the goddess of wealth now we understand why this is the biggest Festival this is the

Festival of materialistic people who blindly believe there is a Superstition there that worshiping something is going

to make them make them rich if it's spiritual is it even human totally animalistic

Festival of Lights you see there is enough light in the daytime and people

spend a lot of electricity burning lots of Lights which is completely useless

and not only that they burn the oil they burn the butter and whatever expensive

things which is stupidity so this Festival has become a disaster nothing to enjoy nothing to celebrate here

so Graham made a big mistake you asked me do not ask me these questions they

will be destroyed completely so if you want to know more about the mainstream version just Google it

Prashant is saying please explain difference between experiencer in Yanmar and I am as in the teaching of nisadat

Maharaj and who am I as permanent maharshi as far as I know Mr Maharaja

has a completely different terminology and thanks to the translators it is complete nonsense so it will be very

difficult to find out the exact definition of I am as far as I know from the quotations and little bit bits and

pieces that were recorded in the books but by I am he means ego he calls the

experiences as the ultimate so he will say there is no imness in the ultimate something like this but very difficult

for a newcomer at least to find out what he's saying and as for Raman mashi is

more clear who am I points to the essence of what am I am not to the

person that I am and again these words are complete disaster he could have

easily said find out your essence by checking what you are not and when and he went with the three letter three word

sentence who am I and now it causes a lot of confusion

so something which becomes popular does not mean that it has some quality in it

it is just popular but it is important why because we know of The Path of

Knowledge through these people these famous people they are your first point of contact with The Path of Knowledge

and you get there whatever you can get you absorb whatever you can absorb and

then you will be left with more questions and confusions but at least you started so it takes little bit of

knowledge to understand what these Masters are saying if you just pick up the book and start reading it probably

90 percent of the time nothing will be understood but some people can easily grasp what

they are saying because they have previous practice or they are highly intelligent we don't know the cause

what is my solution is that do not look at what other teachers are saying try to

learn what your teacher is saying that is most important and then let whatever others are talking about about let them

talk about it unless you need to teach in the tradition which you will never do

why will you go and teach in that tradition and with the traditions and with the

teachers the terminology changes and then it is a endless pursuit to find the

real meaning of the words and what do you get in there and nothing actually why because they have the guru and the

words they are not the means of knowledge your experience that your and your intellect gives you knowledge so

this whole exercise is actually fruitless did you get it through your own experience and through your own intellect done nothing more is needed

be in peace be in Bliss there is no need to torture your intellect because there

are hundreds of these teachers how many are you going to study and for what

the words it's very funny that they change every 100 or 200 years they keep

changing will the knowledge change no because knowledge is not based on the words not based on the meanings of the words

it has to be your direct experience and nobody can show you your direct experience not even you except your Guru

and then whatever words he chooses will be dropped also you will become wordless

you will become silent the silence is the language of Path of Knowledge not

the words once you get the knowledge and if you listen carefully for a few months read

few books you will understand what they are saying and it will be exactly that

which you already know only very very encrypted headache causing books compared to that this movement gives you

the whole knowledge sometimes it is very educating to read

what what others are saying because sometimes you get better metaphors some beautiful examples stories and probably

somebody has explained this one concept better than you can explain these are

the advantages and where are they useful when you're teaching when you want to perfect your skill of teaching how to

convey the idea how to transmit the knowledge then you should explore how it is stored in different traditions

it can take a long time 10 years 20 years like the academics do but I'll

tell you the shortcut this program is the best you will never find this Path of

Knowledge explained more clearly anywhere else it is a struggle everywhere is is a struggle this is the

clearest so far in the history because it came directly from the source

it was not taken from the scriptures that is why you will find new names or

the words are redefined because they were so popular there were very clear teachings in the

past but the context is now lost the culture is gone the language is gone and

the people who could interpret those teachings are gone so right now presently this one is the clearest

you will get the whole knowledge simply by listening because it points to your experience not to your dictionary don't

need to open the dictionary you don't need to analyze the books of Nisar dutta

or anybody the knowledge in front of your eyes but since it is given so easily and so conveniently its value is

not understood so people keep thinking that probably ramad maharashi has more this soupanishad has more and they waste

their time this program has more yes which which will never be found in any book

so it looks like marketing but this is my experience

this was possible because there was no one Guru there was no single Guru

otherwise I would be repeating that Guru like a parrot same words same example

this and same errors but since it was taken from many we took the best from

the experts so that's why after doing this program you won't need to read any

book and you will have so much that you can write many books Christian is saying the 3D program alone

was so directly clear yes you see the knowledge is very simple the truth is

very simple and the mind is very complex so always makes it very very complex so

the 3D program is the simplest so far and it can be simplified even more some

people who are conducting the program they have told me that it is possible to

do the three-day program in 45 minutes 15 15 15 does not take three days

depending of course on the intelligence of the receiver the person who is receiving so the act the actual

knowledge is very very simple actually that is why we say it is only for those

who are ready the Simplicity is going to obscure the knowledge for others they are not ready

if you get enough powers like spiritual Powers then this can be reduced to three second program because then you can

manipulate the Mind show the illusion show that you are not the body and make the body disappear you know make the

world disappear do few more miracles to show that you are the existence then

three seconds but we don't have the powers we have only words so it takes three days three hours actually but that

is the complete the bigger program is simply details training of some kind training for the

mind no new knowledge is given but the skill is given sushant is saying please throw some

light on what is necessary very easy that which cannot be avoided is necessary if you can avoid it right now

not necessary now you can do this homework you can find out things which are which you are doing every day that

are necessary things which are not necessary can be done later can be skipped completely for example sleeping

and eating very necessary isn't it but your entertainment gossip in YouTube videos unnecessary

so usually it is seen that that which is related to survival is most necessary

but our knowledge and all these gurus and whatever you need to decide it the lower layers have already decided what

is necessary for them because here you will need to break down this person in two layers so the lower layers already

know what is necessary and they're doing it the problem is in the higher they don't know there is more freedom there

that's why this question arises and any bill is not going to ask what is necessary but complete programming is

already there because we have a little bit of Freedom we can do the unnecessary so that is actually not a negative thing

which means the Arts the music the science the spirituality this was made

possible because the program does not say that you need to do exactly this and this

now you need to decide what is avoidable that will depend on your life goal if

there is no life goal how will you decide what is necessary excluding the lower stuff the base once they are taken

care of you need to decide your life goal for majority the life Google is

eating defending and reproducing that is necessary but most probably many people have gone past that stage now there is

blank vacancy in their lives what to do so they keep doing the same thing the

triple action triple X so this Guidance the light is shown by the guru because

you are lost you don't know what is necessary you need to approach the guru then with some brainwashing you will be

told what is necessary because normally an average Seeker does not really know

what do they want so the guru hears actually patiently what do you want whatever nonsense is

told usually the guru says yes it will be done that is what I say always it will be done slowly the Seeker

progresses comes to know what is necessary and ultimately you will see that after knowledge nothing is

necessary getting the knowledge was most necessary the knowledge means your Essential

Knowledge and after that it is a play everything can be discarded

so The Path of Knowledge starts with a goal is it is necessary then we become

aimless and that is the goal the aim is to become aimless on the path of Novel

because the existence has no goals no aims it is already everything

so here you can relax your intellect simply enjoy that is called the Bliss being in present simply letting the life

flow now what is necessary nothing at all but you won't appreciate this thing so

you are given a goal or you are because you are so adamant your goal is accepted

okay we'll start with your goal slowly it is the skill of the guru to bring the Seeker on the track of aimlessness

when some people do ask me because you see they want to follow me what is your

goal and then I need to cook up a story so people ask me how can I tell them that you need to become aimless their

whole practice is going to be ruined so something some lies are told white lies

that my goal is to serve everybody that my goal is to ensure progress for other

Seekers to keep the knowledge alive and so on but that is all wrong you see not

not true it is not the goal it is the play what this creature has found is this is

the most entertaining play this is the best drama in the universe everything

else is a little bit boring isn't it it is just like putting your little boat

in the river and pretending that you are rowing the boat in the direction of the

river and then you are enjoying your success because your boat is going very fast in that direction it is like this

so the whole Guru field is actually a play a drama which also I say many times

so people don't understand big drama company but let me tell you there is nothing better than this yes this is the

biggest joke that somebody is trying to Enlighten somebody or how is it even possible

so if you do this work the service thinking that I am doing it and it's a great work then already failed nothing

will get done yes you can get involved in it but from time to time when something happens which wakes you up

but peep is saying the only work left which is not possible which work you're talking about yes yes

it is yes it is not a work you can guess it actually you can guess it from the

diamond Sutra itself if you read the full text there I'll liberate everybody till the end of time and in doing so now

but nobody is liberated that's what is written there and people do not mention the last sentence because

they don't understand what what was said there it is impossible yes pratip is right

whatever we are doing here is a joke but unfortunately there is nothing

better somebody was asking me that after

completing a Path of Knowledge what is your final say I said just laugh maybe

nothing because there is nothing to do you see your aims are also taken away

this is me you are made so empty that there remains nothing to do actually

you will only know this thing that already nothing was happening already there was nobody to do anything so you

see it's like permanent emptiness now so a lot of spirituality is just lies

just decoration on the nothingness that is in the heart of spirituality

because nobody wants to go there they are taken in circles in rounds and rounds and rounds even what is Buddhism

they don't want to go there they have justification yes who will do it if you

don't do it somebody else will do it who will be me only every everybody is me only so the even the logic fails here

so we can call it the meta spirituality so after you master the awareness what

do you do you do the mental spirituality where the awareness itself is a joke

so you see today we invented a new word now in future people will discuss

endlessly what did it mean by meta spiritually like nowadays we discuss what is emptiness what is vibration and

so on you see those who made those words they were joking

so now you will understand that most of the great teachers they did not teach

simply their ways were very colorful they had to kill monsters they had to

cause Wars they had to save beautiful women so on because you see this

knowledge cannot be given directly nobody will take it so the lies are added spiced up spirituality that is

called the Leela every Guru is doing that actually more or less colorful so

you will see the more controversial the guru is the more Leela he's he's doing the more enjoyment is taking out of this

bodhisattu work so everybody on The Path of Knowledge needs to start playing a little bit see

what happens just like a click game but there is another option that you do nothing which is also just as good

because here the intellect fails the logic fails actually what is good what is better cannot be defined now

once you understand that the existence speaks the language of Silence you can play and there the words are allowed is

saying so much is happening that it cannot be conveyed to others so much

happens in Maya yes and all that adds into all that sums up into big zero why

so much is happening because actually nothing is happening so infinite events

can appear here but yes you will need to surrender the intellect it is beyond intellect cannot be understood you will

encounter the limits of the intellect here because the newcomer can ask you see like they ask why is this happening

why is that happening why was this created why was that created why was I created and so on you see in the same

way again as why there is a play go on asking nothing will be learned

so you surrendered at the end he plays the beginning yes so much non-zeroes were invented yes

sometimes some teachers did a long story to explain a simple concept like the

story of the lion that is raised by this sheep and after listening to the story I

used to get irritated why because why do we need this big story to explain something which is so simple

then I came to know that it is simply for the people who will not accept the

final conclusion directly so the gurus go on inventing things to cater for the

different kind of seekers I was of a different kind you know tell me the final point the bottom line

tell me what is written there okay this is written how is this true this is how

it is true thank you very much nothing more was needed so now I'm doing the same actually I'm

inventing the tomato and so on the program the 3D and so many personal

projects are going on where I need to lie every day to The Seekers because they are not there where you see very

simply ask what is the truth and how it is true and there is one more level Above This

level of seekers I think I discussed this some time ago that they need to be told the valid means of knowledge that's

all they need to hear these are the means of knowledge one two the whole

spirituality ends there now it is your homework find out why

do we need a six month program and then a well year program then purification then 20 lifetimes of human births to cut

your karmic stuff and so on do we need all that so yes this zero is very small and the

non-zeros are infinite anybody who is perfectly ready will be given the means of knowledge and will be left alone no

need to describe anything because from the means of knowledge it is from there onwards it is so natural and so simple

smooth right so probably that gives me an idea that I'll simply make another program where only this much will be

told these are the means of knowledge and this is the reason for choosing the

means these means the job of the guru is so simple now but what has happened is because of the

conditioning and very very low quality education system that we have in the

society the job of the guru is very difficult now you must have seen these brilliant

students who are given a simple theorem or something you see one rule is given

in mathematics and something next day they can solve the whole book spirituality is like this

is asking after Spiritual Awakening what is left to discover there are two things

like I said you can play or there is infinite amount of Illusion which if you

want you can discover you can explore that totally depends on the choice of

the Seeker and that exploration must be done in complete knowledge which means knowing fully that it is worthless

useless waste of time so it is also playing different kind of play so like I said some people will choose the

bodhisattva tendency which means they will play in such a way that they can create more players so what is there to

discover how to do this how to spread the light of knowledge effectively quickly and in the most entertaining way

so it looks like we have three choices now but they are all play which means you don't really have a choice

but let's say I want to explore spiritual places of India very good go ahead very nice

Graham is his increase required there isn't anything new in the yoga content

yes Grace is required yes absolutely it's no doubt about it there are no two opinions about it so that's why I told

you that the guru is actually pretending that he is doing something he is rowing

the boat in the direction of the river so ultimately it is done by the grace not by the guru

the guru takes advantage of this grace who is ready and he appears before that

the student is ready the guru appears before the student he is anyway going to go there but the guru makes it

convenient faster that's all

is completely ready then even the master sees everything regarding their students

even the causal body is even what is going to give if the student is perfectly ready then Master can see

everything and if the student is not ready and then only the the limitation

is extended for perception to that extent yes possible yes your experience

is very good yes it is possible that and the sign of the grace is that the master

recognizes the student like he said and the student recognizes the master

How will I know I am under the grace or the time has come this will happen the

falling in love happens automatically and like you said yes everything is clear after that the guru knows what to

do so even though I do cannot explain these things this will be your direct

experience this is how it happens so sometimes you say it is predestined but

it it is not so simple it is possible that even if the guru is a small Guru

you see Tiny whiny Guru new Kamar Guru he will be given all the information about the student which is in front of

him by the guru field because ultimately they are the guru we are not you see we

are clerks so the grace decides what what will

happen if the student is not ready the guru can do whatever he wants to do but

nothing moves actually nothing moves sometimes this exercise is taken up as a

self training let me see if I can motivate this student to progress forward when I do that I am working on

people who are refusing to move since many years so the guru has infinite patients but it is a learning experience

you know what will trigger the grace like they say nothing happens by for it it happens

by Grace but in order to become eligible for the grace you need to do the effort

so even the guru is doing the effort you see these are well known facts in the field of spirituality and it is

contradictory it is paradoxical but this is how it is you know we we don't claim to know it we don't claim to understand

it using the intellect so that is why you know it is all thrown in the

category of play because what else the intellect can say about these things

but Tim is saying even death of some of my Seekers I cannot tell them because it

brings karmas if I tell gurus supplied anything he wants yes yes you will be

given a lot of information me and yes we should not reveal it unless it is necessary sometimes the information is

latent like intellectually we don't know what is there but when the time comes to

give a direction to provide the direction to the student exactly the right words will come out of your mouth

so it is something which is deeper than the intellect the information that is

given party was asking I don't know for how many years you have been witnessing these Miracles can you tell Yes actually

I am saying it since a long time but it started happening more frequently when I

actively started teaching you know we sit down and discuss the spiritual matters and all with the friends and so

on and I used to know a few things especially who will fail I don't know

this is there probably the design of this equipment here that it knows who

will fail more precisely than what to do about you know how to direct the person so that I used to get many times but as

soon as I actively took on the responsibility of teaching when I was

given immediate help now also it comes whenever it is

required because if I demand something if I demand an information probably nothing is given when it is needed is

given sometimes you see it can happen that I come to know many things instantly but then this intellect is not

sure you see because the nature of the intellect is skeptical where is the proof did I imagine all these things and

so on you see so we simply do our best so how many years I can't even remember

I think three or four years and I want to make it clear that it's never 100

percent accurate also sometimes it is simply product of our imagination

most of the gurus I've seen will say that they are given they don't do it they don't even know how to do it like

performing The Miracles and so on they become the instrument of that action and that is why you know most of the gurus

they fail to pass the skeptic test okay you heal somebody now heal this fellow

in front of me all the doctors present and the meters around and no almost

hundred percent time that Miracle Man fails cannot do anything

so many of the gurus I have seen they will say that it happens I don't do it

what happens is exactly that which is needed which this small intellect is incapable of deciding so I have seen

these things yes I witnessed many events like this is the Death and All so you know

sometimes it comes like I remember somebody sent me a message that their relative is very sick in the ICU and

because you know we are gurus everybody thinks that they know the

Miracles so the fellow asked me requested that I should pray for that person and I said yes I am going to pray

for your relative and then we I kept the phone then I prayed let that which is

best happen for this fellow who is sick to the group field and there I got the answer itself that he's going to die

that is the best that is going to happen though you don't need to pray don't waste my time that was the answer and

did I tell him no next day that fellow was dead

vikas is asking how did you decide or at which point did you know that you must

teach I think you mentioned in your last thing that their final Destiny of every Seeker is bodhisattva how would a Seeker

know that he she is ready to teach you see we this kind of person you know

Seeker they don't do not they do not decide to become a guru it is not a

planned action so I did not come to know or I did not decide what happened is you

know I decided to express to share fully knowing that nobody wants this very few

people want this thing and now they have hundreds of gurus who are saying same thing so anyhow the expression was

decided I came to know when to express when I was 100 certainly this is the

truth there cannot be anything else you know this certainty is like sun shining

in the sky it is so clear when all the doubt is removed and many people in our satsang are in

this position now they don't have any doubts so there the expression becomes very beautiful very meaningful because

you are so clear you can explain it so clearly otherwise you'll pair it in the scriptures

when people started asking the questions you don't have any other option but to

teach yes but then you are helped it has to happen naturally somehow if

you go naturally with the flow and all these events will happen simultaneously that you will get the knowledge then you

will express it beautifully then the students will approach you and the guru

field will open their business with you so all these they come together

how would a Seeker know that he is ready no they will never know just like I said the clarity is one thing but they are

happy with their Clarity why will they take this trouble to teach anybody so the guru comes to know who is ready to

teach if you don't have a guru then you can rely on the goofy because they will

arrange this thing but I have seen that if the student or the Seeker tries to

become the guru by hook or crook very mysterious things happen nothing works

for typically saying since childhood I had this desire to help people and it got manifested it's my own player yes it

looks like that is your product then you have realized it you made it real so

very good this life is fulfilled if you complete your prologation that means your life is done that is why I ask

people to express even if they don't have the permission to teach they can express

and we will end today's satsang here and I'll see you next time thank you everybody for attending today's satsang