PEOS 203: Dreams, Blockages, Projections, Discipline, Misery, Gurufield, Surrender

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hello and welcome to Pure experiences online section this satsang is an opportunity for everybody to meet and

discuss the spiritual topics and we conduct the activities of the program

here I try to clear it out and answer your questions regarding the program content and this is a good opportunity

for newcomers to get a glimpse of The Path of Knowledge so all questions are

most welcome is asking I'm in Step 4 of the program I

have made very few dreams now and not much attention is paid to dreams that occur due to busy schedule if you try to

find the cause of the dreams you will see that mostly that is a replay of our

daily activity whatever remained unfulfilled whatever our fears are in

the daytime whatever happened in the past and it is a meaningless jumble of

those scenes that is what is a normal dream so that is not happening and what

does it mean that probably there is no need of doing this meaningless activity

now and why is there no need because the

mind thinks that this is totally unnecessary so these kinds of effects are seen when

you start your awareness practice what is awareness doing is checking what is

necessary what is not and the same tendency keeps working in the night time

also and probably some mechanism there thinks that this jumble of images sounds

whatever imaginary stuff is no longer necessary so this can happen yes very normal many

people have reported this thing there is another way to explain this is that the dreams are unconscious activity of the

mind there's more traditional way to answer this thing and since you're

trying to be conscious using these word conscious and conscious in a popular way

since you try to be conscious now there seems to be no need of the unconscious

activity in the same way suppose you were a Daydreamer you used to get lost in the

Daydreams fantasies imaginations worries worry is also a Daydream now the

awareness ensures that you that does not happen because it's totally unnecessary because the thinking the imagination the

creativity can happen it is not that it is destroyed but the unnecessary and

intelligent activity stops this is the magic of the awareness

being aware being in the present being in my true nature causes these things

so nothing to worry at all my suggestion is to Simply remain aware in the daytime

and this awareness will continue in the night time or will continue in your

night dreams Daydreams whatever dreams whatever you have left over so if you

are not able to do the dream practice nothing to worry these are optional practices and I think it is not there in

the version 2 of the program now so only the waking State practice is worth doing

the other stuff falls under Tantra you will get a lot of time you are very

young rest of your life can be spent in exploring the manifestation

there is an opposite thing that happens for some people that they had no dreams

at all or they never remembered their dreams when they start the awareness practice after a few weeks they start

getting the dreams they start remembering remembering each and every detail of their dreams now what is the

explanation here the explanation is very simple the dreams were always there because there

was total darkness total lack of awareness there that Seeker never noticed that activity

and now since there is a little bit of light it looks like that why are there

so many dreams now they were always present and the lights were off now you can see them you can remember them

and there is a third category of people who have advised a little bit in their dreams they turn into waking dream

another name is lucid dream or aware dream now there is no difference between their waking and their dream so there

are many possibilities you should explore whatever you can and if something happens the other thing does

not happen nothing to worry you see this is not our goal to take a look at these

random images in the night time it's not our goal always remember this thing our goal is to remain aware whatever happens

whatever appears in the screen of the experiencer if you are doing that successfully your

sadhana is complete your practice is perfect if at all you are interested in cultivating the dreaming experience then

I would suggest you wait and join the Tantra Modi later on after probably

after two three months you see I keep saying that I'll launch it in two three months and I'm saying this since two

three months my work is going on yes write about the waking State hardly anything to write

about the dreaming State yes waking state is the most important and part of

knowledge is the whole and complete the rest is you can say Leisure activity to

mess with the dreams to mess with the projections and so on no knowledge will be gained nothing will be perfected by

that this I keep saying relaxing writing down your dreams help

with remembering if you are doing the dream practice then follow the procedure by procedure I mean these tricks are

given in the videos actually when you are told to do the awareness practice

there is no mention there is not much importance of the state there what state you are in this is not very important

yeah the ultimate goal is to remain aware in all the states all the changing states but we start from the weekend

that is most important so that is asking you mentioned sometimes about blockages that Seekers

are restricted some progress why so um is not able to experience different

projects predicted States one of them actually blockage means

some kind of defect some kind of problem issue so we also call it impurity which

means some kind of process in the mind is not working as it should not working

perfectly or it is working in an abnormal way producing some kind of mental sickness and for The Path of

Knowledge the worst kind of blockage is not able to understand the teachings where is the worst

there can be many different kinds of blockages for example really common one

is not able to pay attention continuously to their teachings to the guru to the books not able to meditate

or contemplate more for more than two minutes three minutes that is the attention span is very less it's a very

common blockage another example of blockage is unhealthy body body is pains

the body is lethargic and so on you see weak and disability Is Blindness

deafness so these are called shortcomings or blockages whatever you want to call them

and obviously that stops the progress or slows down the progress the secret

progress is very very slow compared to somebody without the blockage

and yes there can be more subtle kind of blockages like some kind of emotional

issues you know the person hates the guru and is totally capable of accepting

even the truth that he knows something like this you see very Twisted things can be there in their mind but what

about the project it states you see the blockages means a defect but not experiencing the projected state is not

a defect it is normal only that the Seeker has not explored the potential

I'll give you an example suppose you have never driven a car because you don't have a car and

probably you're young so don't have that license also so are we going to call it

a blockage that you're incapable of driving the car no you have the

potential you can become a good driver if you press start practicing now get the license start driving in no time you

will become perfect in driving so when people say no I cannot experience the

projected States or any other uncommon Street like the dhyan state or some

other state whatever state and that simply means that they never tried properly

or they tried something they heard here and there some tricks and they spent a

total of 10 minutes on the trick oh I don't get the samadhi or I don't get the projection

it's not called a blockage it's called laziness yes there can be a blockage you see

there can be blockage that can prevent the projected States but how will you know that if you don't practice it and

remember since many many lifetimes you are accustomed to the waking State and

then a sharp transition to The Sleep do you know anything else

it takes hardly a few seconds to transition from waking to sleep you can

observe somebody probably won't be able to able to observe yourself they're talking talking talking gone or they're

looking at the fan gone this is how fast it happens why because totally automated

function and the projection is totally relying on the border between the sleep

and waking as you know that the method that is given recommended by me is to

let the body go to sleep but keep the awareness on to let the memory function not turn it off and it takes a lot of

practice especially this method takes a lot of practice how much practice those who have past life Impressions active

they will take at least seven days but those who have never done it can take 7 years 10 years 20 years I've heard this

thing people are doing it since 20 years and so on but I don't think that really doing it or they have any Guru or they

have any purpose behind the practice because if you don't give the mind the purpose the mind and does not take it

seriously that is what is called intention sankalp it has to be meaningful for you it has

to be your personal Adventure or a goal you must invest in it you must be

tremendously passionate and attracted to this practice otherwise no it won't

happen The Habit is very very strong to remain in the waking or to go in the

sleep that habit is very strong and what is recommended on The Path of

Knowledge don't worry that is what they say on The Path of Knowledge don't worry this is also normal but in the occult

it's a failure of occult actually if you cannot do it if you cannot reach the

altered state or whatever they call it projected State and the practitioners failed badly so what do we do we

concentrate on the waking State and we come to know the if there is a blockage because of which the projected street is

not happening only after many years of practice it is not very easy to find out

the blockages of that kind as you can guess you are doing the awareness practice in the baking State and you

come to know the problems or you don't even know but you know that it's not I'm not progressing and the guru can find

out very easy Guru can talk to you and find out what is the problem what where is the blockage or even if it is not a

blockage something some issue here and there but what were the projected State this total darkness lack of awareness

there is no context there is no language who how is it even possible to find out

what is happening there so even the master must be highly evolved for that by which I mean that

the guru must have gone through that kind of training many many times it must

be his profession by which I mean he must be a real master in the art of projection only then he can guess a

little bit what is happening with the student and as you know our path is Path of Knowledge so you can find expert in

the waking State not in the projected State and then it is mostly your lack

so if you manage to get to some length there some distance like you are

experiencing The Sounds or the Visions you are able to separate yourself your

projected body from the physical body etc etc after that we can start digging

where is the problem usually it's not a blockage it's simply lack of practice so

everybody has the potential and if they are not able to experience the projected state if we don't call it blockage

Layla is asking I have not had any projections that were intentional they just kind of happened like spontaneous

awareness inside the dream yes that is this sign or you can say that is the

indication that there was some practice in the previous births or there is some

kind of extraordinary blessings on you sometimes these experience experiences

are given by which I mean if the student shows a little bit of potential they are

given for that student even if the student has no Talent at all no practice nothing has never seen these things

before and that is what we call the blessing or the grace kripa that is done

sometimes it can be found out easily you had a very very awesome projection experience

but just once or twice and then you keep trying nothing happens you just fall

asleep and there is a very good chance that it was given like this you can find out and why it is given so that you

don't give up your practice it is like giving a chocolate to a school boy so that so that he keeps going to the

school isn't it cookies so that kind of motivation makes him come to the school

attend the classes do the homework and so on so we are like babies for the guru field and they keep doing these kind of

things and courageous only the sincere Seekers the lazy days is they're not

given any attention Anjali saying how does the transition from physical body to astral body feel

like what all happens during the transition phase I have few experience of the state afterwards but I was never

able to maintain awareness during the transition it's full blackout it

seems like a floating Sensation that you're Rising above the body that is the

most common there can be another like spinning and there is very funny one like falling it's not funny actually

some people don't like it it feels like I fell and then the body then wakes up with a shock what happens

if you are practicing then it will be smooth Rising smooth like a balloon the

astral body Rises out of the physical and yes there will be Blackness initially because the non-physical

senses are not online they come online only after a good amount of practice and

to bring it online quickly we use the intention that is a traditional method

another method and that is also traditional is Imagination you never shut down your senses non-physical

senses you keep imagining you keep a scene alive in your non-physical sense

Vision or whatever or you combine many senses which are non-physical and that

is called imagination in the ordinary language but in the vocal the imagination means totally something

totally different it is not a fantasy it is not something false fake in the vocal

the imagination is true it is a tool it produces results

so my suggestion to Anjali is more practice

and if there is a blackout during the transition nothing to worry if you gain

back the awareness you make the intention to activate the non-physical sensors it is okay it is fine you see

the Beggars are not choosers you are getting something that is good enough you know continue with it slowly that

blackout will be gone and actually it may feel like blackout but there is actually it's not a

blackout because there is nothing to see or do for a few seconds where the

physical senses have shut down with the non-physical are not yet active so there

is this Gap and nothing goes into the memory because there is nothing to store in the memory so it looks like that I

blacked out I was unconscious but nothing to worry you see this is the process

and if you don't feel rising out of the body then also it's okay you should feel

light just like air you should feel free that feeling is totally different when

you have lost the body the physical body then you will simply get up and walk fly whatever you want and there are more

advanced kind of projections where you simply appear in the non-physical world that does not mean that the body

disappears here this there are no bodies now simply the scene appears on the

screen there is no need to go through this drama of leaving the body and getting the body war and walking through

via the body going out of the room and so on that is the advanced and the

projection where you make the experience appear on demand

that is the best and there is no blacking out there is no Sensations weird things noises nothing happens and

there is even more advanced version where while waking you are completely

aware of another world non-physical areas so but you are starting so no

problem at all keep practicing one glimpse of the non-physical is enough to tell you that everything is an

illusion you don't even need to know how it got created and what created in which layer and what vibration nothing is

needed it is like tasting the sugar you can read a book on how sweet the sugar is but you don't know really

then you eat little bit of sugar then same way you can keep talking about the

illusion all day but these experiences they tell you what illusion is in front

of your eyes it is illusion right now realizing not to take everything so

seriously yes don't take everything seriously but the things that need to be taken seriously should be taken

seriously by which I mean do that which is necessary isn't it even though it is

an illusion this lifetime the waking state is also projection now we should utilize it

otherwise why why is there a need of having it there was no need of this experience so don't take all those

events seriously which are completely useless in distraction on your path but

yes you should take something seriously like your practice probably your Guru

secret is saying Are there many birds it is confusing because most of the time we say there is no birth are there

different points of view you see that which you are is never born Never Dies

it is the existence it is the Brahman never changes also eternally same

eternally the witness so then what is born something you know some experience happens some structures appear and

disappear and how many unlimited whose words are they nobodies they simply

appear then why does it look like I was born that is ignorance somebody told you you were born and that

was accepted without critical analysis are there different points of views the

witness has different points of uses how many infinite what is the real point

of view there is no real point of view all are Illusions so why are these

questions still there in your mind because you never had a guru you never walked on on any path you never

systematically studied any spiritual topic so it is highly recommended to

start from the ABCD secret is asking how does past life

sadhana helpful in this life it is actually not needed if you have a good

Guru nothing is needed from the past if there is some past life practice then

you can continue where you left off that means this this lifetime in this

lifetime it will be easier to pick up the practice that's all simply because it is difficult simply

because there is lack of knowledge we try to discipline the Seeker by whatever works whatever method works we try to

teach them but I always see lack of discipline in people and that is that is

the cause of slow progress actually when I started this practice nobody had to tell me to do it or to discipline myself

in that and the passion was so much that it required me to get up at 3 30 a.m in

the morning or in the night it is the same method you you stay awake for

whatever or 30 minutes then you go to sleep and by early morning you should be out of your body and at the time I was

doing a job also now you can understand how much dedication it takes

plus I was so passionate that if somebody told me that look don't eat this this will make you drowsy or

whatever that is you know and Life Energy your brand or whatever they call it it will reduce this don't have sex

before this you know whatever they somebody told me because I had no proper Guru at that time I did it if it helped

in the practice whatever kind of sacrifice it was whatever kind of discipline it required I immediately

implemented it like she said write down your dreams just fill my diaries with the dreams

even the most stupid kind of dream I used to write it down this much dedication is needed

so it is not that people have not have not been successful in this kind of practice in our program they were

successful but all of them had the past life Tendencies nobody picked it up in this lifetime this is what was seen

actually I got some feedback from the videos that you know some people watched my videos on the projection and in two

or three days they automatically got the projection how is that possible you need

so much discipline you need so much practice and that fellow gets it without doing anything and there is only one

explanation that they have done it they have done the discipline practice they

have taken the trouble since many lifetimes they're doing this and this video Simply reminded them there was

some deep trigger there and then you know just like you don't need to teach a

fish to swim you don't need this kind of practitioner to project you don't need to teach him to project

so discipline is the key once you get the knowledge simply knowledge is not

going to give you the experience and what experience do you need you need to do it only once or twice because on

The Path of Knowledge we all we want is to Simply confirm that our teaching

about every experience being the illusion is really true this is a fact and this is simply another experiment to

confirm it although it is very powerful experiment it seals the deal

and yes your direct experience and logic and intellect they are actually effective in knowing that this is a

dream but some people are not convinced by that they don't get that shock oh no

this is a dream yes because it is very intellectual by which I mean that very

difficult to believe that this is a dream that much is Our intention and that is

why this intention helps in getting there because when you don't have any intention let's say you simply want to

do it for fun or you want to check whether these people they keep saying these things is it really true or not

that much only you are not serious about it but once you have the intention I

want knowledge I want to confirm my Guru I want to cross check my Guru and I'll

do whatever it takes which does not mean Madness you should do it properly no need of doing anything extreme so this

intention if it is strong and you repeat it every day before doing the practice then I am doing it for this only to

solidify my knowledge and then pray to whomever you want to pray that let this

happen please you know I did that because if somebody is desperate that

fellow will do everything possible so yes you need to be thirsty hungry

desperate read everything listen to every video

and just immerse yourself in this desire then something can happen you see

so those who are really interested they should join the Tantra Modi because you see whatever I said just now is never

told in our Path of Knowledge program what do we say keep the awareness on that's what that's what I tell you and

the real Jews is never given which comes into the occult there are you know extreme methods also like sleep

deprivation and fasting who knows what for some people they can be effective we

never recommend it but we recommend dedication discipline prayer intention a

good good intention which means an honest intention to get the knowledge and many people fail in this thing

because they don't have honest intention they don't have anything serious behind their effort so they fail

sometimes there is just like let me try it if it happens it happens you know then it will never happen

you see Mother Nature is very much possessive about this thing she does not

want anybody to know what is beyond the physical although this is not true this is just a metaphorical way poetic way of

saying this is how we feel why everybody is not born with this kind of gift everybody's born with eyes and ability

to speak and ability to walk why everybody's not born with the ability to project because Mother Nature wants only

those to experience her bigger illusion mahamaya only after they grow up a

little bit they grow up I mean grow up spiritually little bit of spiritual progress is needed then you are promoted

otherwise you are limited to this one experience

so you should not oppose Mother Nature here whatever we call as Devi or Maya

goddess we should not oppose her we should hold her hand she wants your good

so hold her hand and then go wherever she is taking you she wants you to progress first and then experience all

this mesmerizing experiences then yes you should say yes

no no who wants to progress I just want a little bit of fun here and there non-physical kind of fun like this show

in the movies then this mother nature is not really interested

arvind is asking is group field also interested in eradicating misery from

this world we see so many human beings suffering in so many ways life physical

diseases hunger lack of basic condition in so many places in the world his group

feel interested do something about it yes yes they are doing whatever can be done but their point of view is very

wide compared to our point of view I don't think that any Guru sees the

misery or pain as bad they see it as the Dual experience the dualist experience

because the existence is whole complete perfect so it must have everything so

can you eradicate it completely impossible isn't it it is just like saying that given a

white paper can you draw only with white color and you know produce a beautiful painting no you must draw with the black

color and then this this black and white combination produces a beautiful picture

that is perfection it takes dark to appreciate light it takes suffering to appreciate Joy

this teaching must be had directly firsthand so if you radicate misery you

have kind of immature point of view their point of view is very big probably we won't even understand it because you

know the creatures don't actually progress if they don't suffer somehow this is the mechanism here what is

suffering actually it is an illusion so would you like to eradicate the illusion is meaningless because the happiness is

also illusion we want this kind of Illusion not that kind of Illusion so again a limited thought here

what they are interested in now I'm telling you the secret of the guru field they are interested in utilizing the

suffering so that you ask for the teaching otherwise you'll never ask it

who am I nobody wants to ask this how beautiful am I yes everybody wants

that if they are not beautiful suffering then the question why is it like this who am I so the guru field wants to

exploit this hack this issue in the existence and use it to make the people

progress see how beautiful it is they don't want to waste it so who created the diseases anger lack

etc etc they are part of the package you see in India if you get into a car you get

the bad traffic and noise and dust and dirt and smoke also that is the part of

the package who created this nobody else so who should remove this nobody yes but

there are some people who can use this if they have the agenda to make you progress and yes it is being used very

nicely and the biggest of the suffering is death actually if there is no death

there there won't be any progress there won't be any Evolution so ultimately we see that the negative part is not really

bad it is simply the Dual of positive part why is there disease because people

forgot to maintain their bodies they don't know what to eat and they live like they will live worse than animals

animals live in beautiful places you see and humans live in concrete boxes in

polluted cities so they are they are the troublemakers really and Guru field has

no obligation to fix this it is their own doing who created hunger did Mother Nature

create lack of food on this planet no so much of it so much of it that those who

have move a lot of food they eat a little bit and they waste a lot of it so

the hunger is created by humans greed is the cause and the guru field has no

interest in this greedy people actually who wants to progress yes are you hungry

do you know why you're hungry you are in a mess now get out of there how how can

I get out of here yes hold my hand this is what Guru is saying I am not here to

fix the world I am here to help the people progress this is what the guru is

saying and you will notice no guru has tried to fix the world and those idiots who have

tried to fix it they all failed they actually made it worse you can count all your politicians in it it must be one

person at a time individual effort like me talking to you nothing can be fixed

you see you can only leave the rotten take the fresh why it is rotten your mistake why

why am I suffering why are you there why are you in a place where the suffering is the prevalent thing no I'm not free I

need to be that is the problem is it ignorance you are not bound here

I don't know how to that is why there are teachings that is why the guru is

teaching you see so ultimately something is being done which is well beyond

normal intelligence of humans it is the most perfect thing that is being done not a patchwork here and there

now many people ask that you know if the suffering is the illusion happiness is the illusion then why avoid one thing

and why prefer the other thing why not accept Yes except it is your choice you

came here that was your choice no except just like you go and watch a horror

movie that is your choice you spend money on it money means time isn't it and then can you say that please don't

show me these horrible pictures it was your choice so you came here in the

physical world where The Duality is the law there will be black and white otherwise there is no world you need at

least two two shades of color and they they need to be opposite that is the law

now accept yes I wanted this immersive virtual

reality experience and the reason can be anything the reason can be total fun entertainment you know that is what we

say is the play that is my Play or it can be a learning experience or it can be both or there can be a another kind

of experience which we call service because I learned a little bit now I

need to bring other people out of it that is the bodhis of the tendency there is another reason to take birth here

otherwise your desires brought you here nobody else now except

and if you had enough get out of here never come back you are free

how to do that proper path proper Guru proper practice no shortcut

no shortcut is given actually the biggest shortcut is the guru you know look at the guru if he could do it you

can do it the guru comes as an ordinary person looks like a ordinary person is

suffering like ordinary person is happy like ordinary person and even talks the same language like them just to show

look I can do it you can also do it that is the motivation there is no magic here

if the guru came in a flying saucer spaceship radiant form and like a guard

and walking on air and whatnot look I'm free is anybody going to be impressed by

that oh you are this big one Almighty we are like this dirt no I cannot do it so

the guru appears as a ordinary human being there is no real Guru field without the

human form what are they doing observe you will know they can shift the entire Maya from here

to there isn't it but they don't they never do it a guru who is magician will

be you know worshiped people won't follow that Guru or there will be long line of beggars in front of it please do

some miracle for me also please make me billionaire tomorrow I have only

daughters please do something so that my wife gets sons and so on make my

neighbors disappear make me the president you see and the real the needy The Seekers who

are struggling for a bits and pieces of knowledge they won't get access to this kind of

Guru so a real Guru never does any miracle if they do it that is their play

probably they want to Simply advertise that I am here or sometimes the miracle happen because you know the Seeker badly

needs it stuck somewhere because of nobody's fault so they add just little bit here and there you married the wrong

person now boom divorce unnecessary trouble they remove it and nobody comes

to know what happened actually and the result is you you progress so there are

all kinds but the real goal of the guru field is your progress nothing else

suppose you you are listening to the recording and the Wi-Fi is not working yes that is a very good prayer there I

am not progressing because the Wi-Fi is so terrible yes they will fix it don't worry sometimes

we should be really careful about what we ask we are asking about a good Wi-Fi and the guru feel checks that you know

that fellow lives in a really bad country where there is no no proper internet so

they will cause some kind of events there so that you are forced to leave your country and shift to some other

country like South Korea where there is 100 Mbps internet free for everybody

that can be shocking dramatic experience so we should be careful what we ask from

the group field because if they do it you won't be able to really tolerate it

instead of recommending you to experiment with the guru field my recommend my suggestion is always pray

like this thank you for whatever happened thank you for whatever you have given now please do that which is for my

best do that which is in my best interest don't try to use your own intelligence

to tell them what to do because obviously we don't have that kind of intelligence and this is you can guess

is called surrender surrender like the kitten surrenders to

its mother we cannot dictate our progress we can only surrender and those who surrender their progress happens

very fast this is my current experience actually those who have a lot of resistance don't follow the instructions

do whatever they please I see that they don't progress much sometimes they're

kicked out completely is asking is it surrender or not to

surrender happen automatically desire thought and then action yes if you see

everything happens automatically only there is no Doer so when with the right combination of

the guru and student the surrender happens it is like with the right combination the love affair happens

cannot be planned so the real test of the guru is that you

know if you don't feel any kind of love or Surrender for the guru he is not the guru you're wasting your time this is

the litmus test now who is my Guru you know sometimes it can be incorrect

but most of the time this is the test you will always learn anyhow even if you

don't like the guru you will learn something from the guru but surrender means then no it is the complete

responsibility of the guru to take you to where he is so we have in this country we have seen extraordinary

amount of surrender and for that you know even if the student is lagging

behind and has many many lifetimes to cross the guru keeps coming for the

student and obviously they won't come for one they have many like this

so surrender is very powerful that means you are giving the whole of your life to

the guru and that is why it is so risky also because you surrender to wrong Guru and then you're gone also surrender to

fake Guru and everything bad can happen now that is why The Path of Knowledge is so special because here surrender means

simply removing the resistance to removal of the ignorance somebody wants

to remove your ignorance stop resisting this much surrender is required

if somebody says you know pay me tons of money or be like my slave and so on you

see then there can be problem that is not The Path of Knowledge then here you

remove your resistance to the teaching explore no be open enough to explore

what is being said because what is said is only the evidence evidence is being

presented nothing is really sad nothing is really cleaned look this is how it is this is the evidence what does it tell

you this match is said this is what your Guru is telling you

and then the surrender is so easy because all you need to do is look what

he's saying think about it seriously and that is why we have listening as the first phase and it is strictly done

which means you're not allowed to move here and there out of listening and that checks Your Surrender if people are not

surrendered no I am not interested because they failed initially so who will waste their time on such people

listen don't want to listen so if there are no questions no more

questions we can end today's satsang here hopefully everybody benefited everybody enjoyed and I'll see you next

time thank you everybody for attending today's satsang