https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS2CIy5sB6Q
how to get the direct experience of
universality of the experiencer
and this
i should ask everybody because this is a
very very common question i think
everybody should know the answer and
whether monika could answer it or not
i'll tell you later
how to get the direct experience that i
am universal not something limited to
the this creature the human body human
creature human being
is there any way monica said oneness
i actually don't remember what you said
but
you already said that it is universal
but we are not asking whether it is
universal or not we are asking which
experience will
actually show it show the universality
realizing all experiences
sweetie by being the witness
see you are the witness right now also
but
will is then the experience of
universality there can be local witness
also instead of universal
actually that is what is the belief of
many people including very intelligent
people and nick is saying if experience
universality will become limited by the
scene senses thus universality is
unknowable
yes that is the point is very good here
that the senses can only
see that which is limited senses can
convey only that which is
limited and all the experience that we
are having currently in the human form
are very limited tiny very tiny so how
can that which is the whole universe
universal whole existence itself can be
shown so probably nick means that it is
unknowable through senses probably you
mean that however the universe
universality itself is
not unknowable it is unknowable if you
want to
grasp it using senses hopefully means
that
progress saying no experience can show
the universality very good
that's a good answer partic by checking
the university of experiences and direct
experience of it all other experiences
that are happening can be experienced by
this experience it is possible group
mind and many such experiments
it's a very
difficult answer vipin is saying coming
from dream to waking state everything in
dream is the experience
that is a metaphor
it cannot be called as a proof or
evidence that will be metaphorical that
is a good example that you know all the
experiences are being witnessed by one
it is possible the possibility is shown
by this
dream to waking state
transition surprising by just being it
is just being already
but then gives no knowledge
the knowledge you know the intellect is
demanding the evidence here the being is
happy as it is is being that which it is
it is not demanding anything a very
tricky question many answers are coming
nobody is telling the
basic thing
the page is saying everything is one
experience
let me see more answers somebody
hmm
people are tangled in experiences it
looks like
she'll be saying experience of oneness
oneness is not an experience
oneness is
dissolution of experience into the
experiencer cannot say oneness is an
experience
you can say knowledge of oneness
which is also very much debatable rahul
gives my true essence does not show
universality those who have done the
three day program they will
know they will know the
simple answer to this
what is the essence of the existence
you need to answer this question what is
the essence of the existence
successing bliss
blisses experiencer only isn't it the
patient saying there is only experience
we finishing emptiness emptiness is also
experiencer experiencer is emptiness
yes vinay is right experience is the
essence of the existence
existence means that which is universal
isn't it that which is only
present
so
the experiencer is the whole then it is
universal then
you need to show that the exist the
essence of the existence
is the experiencer and then
automatically it is the universe because
existence is all that is
existence is you know name of universe
or you can say
all the universes
the page is saying experience are equal
to all possibilities
at the level of non-duality you can say
but then we do not call it experiencer
we call it existence so in one short
sentence it can be said that the
witnessing ability in the existence is
its essence
just like
the
essence of a table
wooden table is wood not anything else
not the shape it takes or not the polish
or the paint of it it is the wood
if the wood disappears nothing will
remain same way the essence of the
existence is the experiencer if it is
not it is removed there is nothing then
how do we arrive at this it is the
essence because our direct experiences
existence means all the experiences
being witnessed by the experiencer
the screen that is the experiencer and
the pictures that are coming and going
is the experience
now obviously how to find out the
essence by removing that which is
changing what is changing the pictures
are the experience part is changing
remove it what remains is the screen the
experience remains that cannot be
removed you see so that is the essence
of the existence
it can be easily shown that the
existence is nothing but experience plus
experiencer that means existence is seen
as duality and it is kind of evident
that
the experience that can be the only
essence of this existence and then it is
proven then it is shown and there is one
more thing which i want to point out
every important thing
that the question is asking
how to get the direct experience of the
experiencer now remember the experience
cannot be become the experience
so that's why all these answers are
mostly wrong although good attempt was
made by everybody
but
they fell for this thing you know that
a an experiencer can be experienced not
true not possible it must be inferred
yes parthip is asking it was said that
direct experience verification not
through logic using existence yes so you
cannot you cannot get the direct
experience verification here because
there won't be any experience of the
experiencer whether local or universal
or any kind limited or unlimited it
cannot be experienced so forget about
direct experience of it and the
universal experiencer no no experience
of its possible who will get it
you are that already you are the witness
you are the experi you are the universal
experience yourself
you are the brahmana so who is there to
look at itself it's not possible
the universality
is mostly inferred but it is supported
by the direct experience you see because
these things cannot be experienced
so
it is supported by the direct experience
and the direct experience is what that
it is ever present eternally present
everywhere omnipresent
actually one of my my seekers also asked
me is that if
this experiencer is universal then why
it cannot experience
the thoughts or other experiences of a
person who is let's in the europe
so i i told her that yes it is possible
to experience anything in this
in all the experiences that are
happening
so i was viewing this question from that
angle also let's say the other person
experiences
can be known by your experiencer also if
one manages
to pay attention or you know go into the
things
so i was looking from tangle also
regarding the universality of the
experiencer which can experience all the
other experiences
hmm
some problems here in your statement
there is no my experience here okay
there is no my experience there there is
only the experiencer
so and second thing
there is a law which everybody should
note down
the law is that the limitedness of the
experience does not
conclude anything about the
unlimitedness of the experiencer this is
in the same category as the
mutually exclusiveness of the experience
and experiencer
which means experience cannot become the
experiencer and the experiencer cannot
become an experience
in the same way limitedness of the
experience does not guarantee the
limitedness of the experiencer it does
not say anything about the unlimited
nature or limited nature of the
experiencer this is the law now it is
your job to verify this law
is it even possible that
the universal experiencer through
different viewpoints is getting a
limited experience
so is it possible that it has also
become local
that cannot be proven that cannot be
shown
so
there is this
logical fallacy here concluding that
because my experience is limited
that means the experience is limited no
is not possible another
metaphor is
let us say you are standing in a room
and it has windows on all sides four
windows on four walls plus a door
obviously
so you are getting uh four views of the
surroundings let us say front window
shows
beach sea coast
the side window shows little bit of
trees for us
the back window shows your neighbor's
house you want to close it
and some other view from the other
window
so when you are facing
one window it means you are getting a
limited experience but that does not
mean that you cannot get an experience
of all other windows
through all other windows
it is possible and you are the only one
who is getting all the views
the windows themselves cannot view
anything so this is another metaphor
that the experiencer is getting all the
views the creature cannot do anything
about it it's not possible even if you
get
somebody even if you read somebody
else's thought in the europe or
somewhere
that won't guarantee the universality of
the experiencer it will only show that
there is no separation between the minds
which is a well proven actually you
don't nobody needs any evidence for this
it is mostly proven that minds are not
separated the thoughts can come from
here to there it is almost proven yes it
is not the ability of an average person
so they don't know about it every
spiritual person knows about this thing
it is everyday experience for them
now
still that is not going to prove the
universality that proves that you have
an ability that's all and you know what
happens if you get all the experiences
at once
you will need the experience whole
experience of the universal memory to
even say something about the
universality of the
experiencer and if you get all these
experiences all the
vibrations of the whole universe the
infinite amount of it first of all it's
not possible you know it cannot fit in
the local memory as a as a human being
you are trying to experience the whole
universal memory impossible impossible
anyhow
it will be blank yes
it will blank the screen will show
nothing
remember the pinhole camera metaphor
remember the thousand song metaphor that
if you play thousands of songs
through one speaker you will hear
nothing just the hissing sound
ohm
that is the real home isn't it so
all the frequencies at once
impossible to get the verification of
universality by hook or crook only way
is
logic only way is concluding
like this that the essence of the
existence comes out to be the
experiences
if anybody knows something better please
let me know because i have seen many
videos you know many videos
and they are always
not so convincing i have as many
teachers
not very convincing
but it is almost certain that there is
only one experience because you
for that you know the um scriptures are
very much clear about this that you
cannot count it
if you want to prove the multiplicity if
you want to prove more than one then you
must count it this is the mimosa you see
this is the
ancient logic there are many rules in
this logic like this you need to read
the memansa
so one of the rules is
you cannot assume the multiplicity of
things unless you count it our logic
should say there are multiple so you see
it is impossible to count the
experiencer impossible
because it cannot be experienced you see
only objects can be experienced and that
also limited objects
there are object that cannot be counted
for example the air or the water the air
is all pervading your house now if you
go to one room do you say i am in the
air number two i am in the air number
three now no there are no boundaries in
the air and that also proves actually
because when you never see the
boundaries of the experiencer that
proves that it is universal unlimited so
you see
don't try to get an experience not
not practical way
you need to use your intelligence all
the laws of the logic when they are
placed before you
you will conclude only one thing that is
the universality of the experiencer that
it is not the personal experiencer you
are the universal experiencer you are
not only an experiencer you are the
universal experiencer you are the
brahman you are the existence
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