PEOS 220 : Preallocation, Parallel Universes, Memory, Beliefs, Knower, Ethics, Tantra, Free Will

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The Path of Knowledge

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Graham is asking would there be less

obstacles when taking action consistent

with pre-allocation for example would it

be easy to find a job if we are looking

for roles that fulfill our pre-location

yes if it is destined it will be

worthless

can you please talk about parallel

universe and existence Theory it says

that each one of us is living many

different lives simultaneously so as you

said it is a theory and from the point

of view of our metaphysics is completely

wrong we never call the universe

parallel we call it illusion so the

assumption that there is something real

and it is happening in parallel and

there are people there are actual people

that have actual lives is simply

imagination it's not even a theory

because it's not provable actually it is

not falsifiable so it is not even a

theory not scientific what is the fact

what is observed what what evidence do

we find is that actually there is no

universe and actually there is no us us

means humans when this is said all

speculations are gone destroyed what is

the evidence that's what we always talk

about we are always presenting the

evidence because Path of Knowledge is

evidence-based it is not Theory based so

unfortunately there is no evidence for

this in not only this there are probably

20 30 such theories which are completely

based on imagination nothing else so we

never call it science what do we call it

speculation because there is ignorance

in the mind of that person he is cooking

up these things that's all it is

there is only one existence it is full

of possibilities and finite

possibilities that's all we are not

living a life we are witnessing a dream

which is

Eternal there is no life because life is

a dual word because when you say life

there is death when you say birth there

is death and the time period between the

birth and death will be called life but

there is no such thing so we do not have

even one life

it is a continuous presence witnessing

itself this is the Essential Knowledge

and then why do we need theories when we

know we don't need theories who needs

them the ignorant people because they do

not know they come up with very funny

theories

shiksha is asking which came first the

experience or the memory we're all

experience are stored so experience is

fundamental then there is this theory of

memory which is used to explain it why

do we say that the experiences are

stored because they can repeat they can

be recalled so we construct a structure

where they are stored actually there is

nothing like this

so experience is fundamental and then we

imagine the memory to explain it memory

is simply an explanation of what is

happening

can something else happen yes anything

is possible here usually when we are

talking science we assume that our

models are true and then we go in

reverse then we explain the experience

the final output of the memory but when

you observe it your direct experience

will say that no there is no memory

there are simply experiences illusory

experiences then the intellect tries to

understand what is happening and will

make the models and so on this is the

scientific method

who actually experiences are not stored

this they are simply appearing when

something repeats we simply label it as

storage but this model of memory is very

convincing it is so convincing that it

is the only model that is working since

many thousand years the model of the

memory its name its names are changing

throughout time and different cultures

the names are changing today we are

calling it memory but it has many

different names

so which came first there is no first

and there is no last because time does

not exist first means there has to be

time for things to come after one

another but no even if you take the

model of the memory it is exactly there

when my experiences are happening the

memory will never be seen before the

experience have you seen it and there is

no experience but I can experience

memory then there is the experience of

memory it is impossible and the

experience is never seen after the

memory so that makes it clear that there

is no such thing as memory

simply explanation of what is appearing

but very useful explanation and then we

can convert it into technology that can

be used for the benefit of people that

is why we make the models they are not

true even the models are not useful

Beyond certain limit for example the

models you make of the waking state are

not really useful in the dreaming state

or in the projected State you can make a

model that underlies all the states

which a human being can experience

actually the human beings don't

experience but let's approximately say

this so as soon as you leave this

experience of being human that model

which looked like Universal will be

useless

so ultimately there are no laws also

they simply appear like this shiksha is

saying yes the model of memory only

satisfied to some level after that

questions arise like which came first

egg or hen yes because now what has

happened is the person has assumed that

it is happening in time so this kind of

very illogical questions will arise but

there is answer to these questions there

is no time so there is no first there is

no last

is asking I learned a lot from you but

sometimes I wonder what if the teachings

here are from Vedas are totally opposite

to reality

what if we are only evolutionary

creatures nothing else if this is the

case what will happen don't worry

nothing will happen the human life

happens completely in falseness right

now there was a word falseness so I use

this word sometimes that this life

happens in falseness already so if

something is proven wrong nothing will

happen to your life

what will happen if I don't get

knowledge nothing at all because your

life does not depend on knowledge it

depends on illusion it depends on that

which is false

so look at your history or look at all

the places where there is complete

ignorance right now also 99 of the world

is under the darkness of ignorance

what is happening there nothing at all

it's going smoothly so not knowing the

reality is not a big problem not able to

function in the illusion is the problem

so that is why these teachings are only

given to those who have this kind of

curiosity who want to know what is

beyond life what is beyond our everyday

struggle and you will come to know that

whatever is the case whatever is the

reality it has no relation to what is

happening it will continue happening in

the same way no matter which statement

is taken as truth

that is what is actually happening many

people have their own versions of Truth

so one version is that babes and

opinions are the truth this is one

belief we call it the belief system

blind belief out of 100 beliefs there is

one belief so what is happening nothing

has something changed in the world

because somebody has one more belief

nothing changes

now that is not The Path of Knowledge

you see whatever is the teaching from

these books is not The Path of Knowledge

The Path of Knowledge is concerned with

destruction of your ignorance what is

ignorance removal of all that was

assumed as true

remember this sentence it is very

important in The Path of Knowledge that

it is simply removal purification of

whatever is deposited whatever was

accumulated as true false days that it

is all cleared and that Seeker then

becomes agnostic he does not become

knowledgeable wise or anything great he

becomes free that is the goal to become

free from ignorance

so those who assume that these ancient

books are the only reality they are not

on The Path of Knowledge there is a big

assumption there blind belief Blind

Faith to become free from these Concepts

is the goal on The Path of Knowledge so

what will you know nothing at all that

which was taken as truth will be

destroyed

that is why this path is not so popular

what do people want something spicy and

colorful and suspenseful mysterious and

look at them they all have their own

versions of reality how is the world

functioning then it is functioning

perfectly as it should function because

it is all illusion

in the illusion there is no place for

truth so like we say on The Path of

Knowledge the criteria for truth are

arbitrary and we have also chosen a

criteria for truth which is totally

arbitrary and subjective

many people are shocked when I say this

in the lesson on Truth the definition of

a truth will start with this sentence

that

truth is a classification of experiences

which is arbitrary and subjective now

who will agree with this definition

nobody they want a specific thing to be

true which is impossible it will be

always subjective so on The Path of

Knowledge there is one criteria which

gives you the truth but as you progress

on the path you will come to know that

it was simply tool a logical device

and then in the non-duality you drop the

truth what do we say nothing is true

nothing is false also there is truth

there is false and there is lack of both

also and what is the meaning of this

statement don't use this statement this

is the meaning stop using that is why we

never say Unity we say non-duality no

don't say Unity we don't know what it is

the agnostic will say I don't know what

it is somebody will say look there is

Duality here nor a non-dual

so ultimately The Path of Knowledge will

deny all the knowledge that is called

the pure State pure mind that is called

Freedom what good this is for your

everyday life useless isn't it

siddhant is saying there is no thing in

our experience that is unchanging then

how do we know who knows that things are

changing you see there is nobody who

knows anything correct is there anything

which knows anything you cannot call the

experiencer as who because the the word

who will point to an individual and the

experiencer is not an individual it is

the stationary background on which

changes are happening will it know

something no it does not know anything

it is a witness it is witnessing it's in

some of the literatures some of the

gurus they will call it nowhere but

there the definition of knowledge and

knowing is totally different you know

for example Rupert Spira will say

knowing but we do not sell we in this

context we say experience witness of the

experience it knows nothing actually it

is simply witnessing because knowledge

or knowing is also an experience it is a

dual word because there is not knowing

associated with knowing but the

experiencer is non-dual there is no

non-experience it is always there so

what will we know when we when there is

a perception of changing phenomena all

that can be said is everything is

changing you see

and nobody will know it it will be

perceived like this some people will say

no that their perception means there is

knowledge isn't it remember that the

knowledge says that nothing is changing

your knowledge is that the changes are

illusory

ultimately we have to say something so

we say

there is a potential there is a

possibility of something appearing as a

change isn't it but at the level of

Duality we say there is a changing

aspect that is how it appears when

remember it is an appearance change is

an appearance so ultimately nothing is

known and who knows nothing nobody these

steps are taken to reach that not

knowing

just like I was saying right now that

the goal is to let go of these Concepts

if you hold on to the concepts there

will be

Eternal chaos in your mind you won't get

the peace rejection is the peace not

accumulation renounce

so how do we know nobody will know

there's nobody to do anything all that

can be done is that this something which

says I know something can be dropped

this is a big achievement if you can

drop this individual who claims to know

this or that will be achievement and yes

it it claims to know that things are

changing and they are false and so on

ultimately there is nothing emptiness

and if you say something about emptiness

it is no longer empty and therefore

meaningless so silence silence is the

perfect answer to all questions

paramjid is saying illusion knows that

illusion is changing and the witness

that is a poetic way yes poetic way of

metaphorical way of saying that the

change is an illusion it is it is known

in the change it is known in the

illusion remember all knowledge is

um negative if if you come up with a

positive statement about something look

this thing knows that thing that will be

torn down it will be shot down by

pandits of non-duality negative yes most

of people will agree negative no change

nobody knows everybody's satisfied now

everybody's happy because no claims are

being made

the false accumulation or the false

concepts are dropped end of Path of

Knowledge you can drop it today if you

want and you can get established in the

pure silence but you won't do it because

the intellect is very active so what do

we do we cut the intellect using the

intellect that is the use of intellect

to make it stop questioning through

direct experience and logic

but yes very good question

is saying please share your views on

abortion feticide infanticide My Views

are very simple you see that whatever

you see is happening in the society

should be governed the right and wrong

should be governed by the society not by

the Seeker where do you fall are you a

social person are you a worldly person

or are you a Seeker first you know your

position where are you

and then we can decide what is right

what is wrong because probably that is

what you mean by the views when a person

takes a position

then the meaning of the word view is

obviously whether it is right or wrong

ethical and ethical that's what you want

to ask

yes I know these people they will come

to Seekers and gurus to find out whether

something is right or wrong why is that

they don't know these people they don't

know what is right

so ultimately subjective and arbitrary

if there is an abortion did it do any

kind of spiritual damage or social

damage or anything emotional damage yes

wrong isn't it that is the Criterion

Path of Knowledge then anything which

causes harm is wrong so was there a loss

of life yes wrong was somebody hurt yes

wrong like this non-violence is the

criteria we have discussed this in the

program are you in the program or not I

don't know but the videos are already

there or there

articles are there which where we go

into this lot of detail into the matter

of ethics and the bottom line is it is

subjective it has to be decided Case by

case and person to person

for example let us say there is a woman

and there is child which is going to be

born but the child is completely damaged

let us say has no head no arms nothing

but it is a living tissue it is a living

piece of meat now the doctor says

abortion now it is

completely Justified it is completely

ethical

let us say there is a victim of abuse

rape and all emotional damage has

already happened now the parents say

abortion and it is completely right in

their point of view completely okay

because we are saving a life

under these cases whatever is thought of

as unethical becomes ethical

is killing unethical totally depends on

why you know intention behind it if it

is a terrorist criminal yes completely

ethical killing of innocent people

unethical normally your Society will

decide who is terrorist who is Criminal

decided by people collectively and they

can decide anything you know arbitrary

same way people decide on abortion etc

etc in arbitrary way

from the point of view of non-violence

the greater harm has to be avoided if

you have avoided a greater harm it will

be called non-violence even if it is

violence

but you see there is no rule like this

there are always exceptions actually

there is no rule there are only

exceptions everybody has their own right

and wrong but probably some worldly

person has asked you about the advice

and then Case by case basis how much

harm it was causing you should ask this

this question was it harmful to the

mother then right otherwise wrong

because it is violence

and I'll tell you one thing

nobody will agree with you what do they

agree with their own biases and stories

first they make up their mind what is

right and wrong and then they find the

justification and they will come to you

to find justification

let me see if this spiritual Seeker has

the right answer and they will try to

match their view with you oh it does not

match this person knows nothing not

spiritual at all I'll go to the other

person over there he matches with my Mew

he is always right

so you see a hardly any intelligence in

the society mostly when people ask me

these things I say you decide

you do you cannot think or what you

decide what is right and wrong for you

but obviously that will be very rude so

you will need to sugarcoat your answer

sham is asking do we aim to drop the

mind or achieving super Consciousness

referring to the debate of nothingness

Infinity as the nature of existence no

the mind is already nothingness and the

super Consciousness is already present

in finite and your true nature is that

so do we need to drop something no it is

already not there do we need to achieve

something it is already there what do we

need to drop our ignorance what do we

need to achieve knowledge that's all is

the aim and the bad of knowledge

not dropping picking achieving it will

never happen something will be known as

not true something will be known as true

it will be seen that that what the thing

that I wanted is already there and it

will be seeing that the thing I wanted

to get rid of is already not there this

is very simple part nothing is done here

actually people are very lazy here we do

not do any kind of practice because it

will be known that nothing needs to be

done it is all perfect as it is this is

the knowledge

Sudan is asking what do you what do you

about shakta Tantra what kind of

question is that are you asking what do

I know about or what or whether I do it

or not what do I know about you see all

the Tantra is shakta only shakta means

coming from Shakti is there anything

which is not coming from Shakti anything

at all no

everything is so then what is shave

Tantra it is you see shocked only in a

different form only the name changed

there are many forms then after that so

what do they do there in the shave they

worship the

personification of Shiva as Yogi as a

dancer as what not and the lingam which

will be never be done in the shack to

Tantra the proper Shah lingam is not

worshiped nor it is utilized in any way

do people know these things no they

don't know how do I know all these

things you need to join the Tantra Bodhi

program to know the secrets I know so

much that if I start talking

whole night will be over and you will

know only one person

why is that just now I said we want to

drop all the concepts and knowing is

there not knowing is the goal so now we

need to change the goals because the

path has changed you have changed the

paths so the destination is different

now

according to my classification there are

two kinds not the shave and shark and

all this they are very old

classifications the Tantra is dependent

and independent both are worship and use

of Shakti only there is nothing else

here in this existence which can be used

is the group field also a Shakti no no

it's not also a Shakti everything is

Shakti everything is Devi there is no

example of something which is not Shakti

so this question should not arise

so join the Tantra body program you will

come to know what it is this secret is

so big that we cannot tell it in public

so why is there a question because you

do not know the meaning of Shakti so

then this thing have complete you'll get

to join yes you need to complete be okay

and on which Step you are right now step

three yes wait for a few days once you

get the certificate all the secrets will

be told we we do not reveal so much to

people who do not know why because you

see they will start experimenting and

then they will cause harm to themselves

or some other people somebody else so in

the path of occult is very very

secretive you will never know everything

but in Tandra Bodhi you will will tell

just enough to silence your mind so that

you drop all the questions regarding the

illusion that much will be told

what truly decides our life the answer

is very simple you see act as if you are

free to act using your intelligence

rationality

act according to the necessity do that

which is necessary and that is the

Practical solution never worry about

whether it is already determined or not

determined or random we never worry

about these things

if it is determined illusion if it is

free illusion illusion can appear in

many forms so a wise man a very

intelligent man acts as if he has the

control over the decision making and

actions this is the intelligent way to

act

whether the cause is determined or not

ultimately a person must act so we

sometimes say that Free Will is an

illusion but in the illusion only

illusion Works nothing else will work so

we act as if we are free to decide if

you come to know someday no no it was

determined nothing will change in your

life you will continue acting in the

same rational logical way then you will

come to know the determinism is

completely illusion

so you are in charge of your life you

decide what happens here start acting

wisely intelligently

hopefully there are no more questions so

I'll just add that who debates on all

these things

people who don't have anything to do in

their lives useless people they keep

debating those who have something to

achieve something to do they simply do

it do not worry do I have will Free Will

caged will imprisoned will this will

that will no no we don't have time for

that

so here we will end our today's meeting

thank you everybody for attending

today's meeting I'll see you next time