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existence it is established that there is no such thing as prior existence which I agree but does that mean that
things spontaneously appear if I go for a walk and see a stranger does that
stranger has prior existence or is just spontaneously appearing yes very good
question and according to our model of the illusion yes everything is already
there in the Universal memory however it is simply data it is simply information
or you can say vibration patterns of vibration highly structured
so the stranger is simply a pattern of vibration The Stranger has no existence
as a person as a human whatever but there is existence of these patterns in
the memory and if you go deeper then the the memory or the vibration is simply
possibility so actually there is only potential for these things to appear as a potential
for anything to appear so ultimately there is nothing and that nothing is the
existence actually The Emptiness with infinite possibilities is the existence and it is
actually you you are that so obviously you are always present eternally present there is no prior
there is no leader there is no time also so you will need to climb down some
steps into the illusion to even answer this question otherwise from the highest
point of view the question has no meaning because there is no before and there is no after in the existence
your nature is timeless but if you allow the illusion little bit then there will
be some answers which will be false answers because the illusion can give you only illusory answers nothing more
so we form a model in the model our model says that everything is actually a
memory and the memory has the potential to be anything to store anything and
whatever appears appears through the laws of the memory loss of the illusion so what actually is is simply you and
what actually appears is totally different which this intellect cannot grasp what it is and simply calls it a
stranger or a person there is nothing there except you and that you is
completely empty without any qualities Benjamin is saying can one be in Bliss
if there is still a notion of good or bad attached to the sense perceptions yes you are always in Bliss eternally
Blissful even if there is a notion of good or bad attached to the senses or even if there is no such notion attached
no matter what the experience is the experiencer is always in place it will
never go away because that is your nature to be Blissful or Bliss is your nature
what comes and what goes is not you and this good and bad and attachment and perceptions they keep coming and going
so you can be sure about the place so probably he's asking about the Bliss of
the mind and there is no such thing a peace whatever they call as mental peace
there is no such thing it is always a duality whatever you call
as happiness there is always a counterpart which is the sadness
suffering depression whatever it comes in lots of varieties so that is not
bliss bliss is the background and these things are just like waves
so the mind is never Blissful it can be happy it can be sad but this is never
Blissful and it can be inactive and it can be highly active but it can never be
peaceful we should not confuse the word bliss with some kind of mental state or mental
activity emotion thought or even pleasure Bliss is not any of that it is
simply your nature when there is no activity where there is no activity not
positive not negative that state is called the Bliss state that is the only state of the experiencer peace and Bliss
are same thing some people may ask you know why is happiness not Bliss that is what people
think is bliss it is not Bliss because it is impermanent the definition of the
places it is eternal like we say you are eternally blissful we do not say that you are Blissful
sometimes and not Blissful other times we never say like this and whatever makes you happy that is also impermanent
and that is why the mental states are impermanent because they are dependent on something external to them and
whatever is external to you is impermanent place is your nature it is not dependent
on anything and that is why it is permanent so in ordinary language people
take Bliss to mean some kind of happiness joy but any spiritual Seeker
should know that that is the wrong meaning even in Sanskrit and Hindi the same
corruption has happened the translation of bliss is Anand but the Ordinary People ignorant people they
think it is happiness so you are never happy don't worry and you are never sad
you are always blissful there will be some people who will say what is the use of bliss it's completely
useless I want this other kind of bliss which is even if it is temporary I want
it no no problem actually because whatever you call happiness is simply
emergence of your inner Bliss only and whatever you think is the emotion of
happiness is simply a reaction of your mind to the Bliss state
this can be easily shown that if there is a desire it does not get fulfilled
mine enters a state of suffering as soon as the desire is fulfilled the Mind
enters a state of Happiness why because something is gone not because it got
something something is gone that which was troubling it is gone and that moment in that moment the inner Bliss shines in
the mind and the mind reacts to this thing finally I got it something like this and that makes you happy
so you can have that happiness also but it is like loose coin Loose Change
pennies compared to that which you are which sometimes shines in the mind
so like we say in the hermetic philosophy cabalian that in the
experiences are not really dual they are one there is only difference of degree
so whatever you think is happiness is only one where it becomes too low you
call it suffering and when it comes to zero you call it happiness so it is always negative that means your
happiness is also suffering but zero suffering and your suffering is actual suffering but actually negative
happiness that is how they saw it and I completely agree because experiences are
relative that is the law of relativity and the first one is called the law of
polarity so how to make something polar obviously by picking its relative parts
so your happiness and suffering is actually one state only the degree is
different so if the degree is very negative you
call it suffering I'm sad I'm frustrated I'm angry so on if it is not in that
degree if it is not troubling you that much then you call it happiness which is
simply shining of your background because there are no clouds of suffering the sun of the Bliss shines for a while
obviously does not last for more than few seconds and people instead of actually tasting that Bliss they react
to it and you know laugh dance Pride sense of achievement and as soon as this
suffering is removed you see there is no happiness only removal of suffering temporary removal as soon as that
happens a new set of thoughts they come that I did it finally I got it I am the
best and then the negative thoughts also come what if I what if I lose it what if
somebody snatches it from me what if something happens to me and I die before enjoying this thing which I got where is
my lock I need to protect it first so immediately the suffering starts
which is in the form of these thoughts and that's why I tell you that the mind can never be happy it is not meant to be
happy who is meant to be happy you hopefully Benjamin is understanding my
points forget about mind you know forget about improving it or making it happy or
whatever you can only become detached to whatever it is doing and now everything is okay
the ignorance is to think that the activity of the mind is fulfillment it never brings fulfillment it simply
brings fruits some people are depressed by this thought that oh no there is no real
happiness and this Bliss is totally boring because it is not as exciting as
the whatever the mind produces obviously it is these words are being said by the
mind the ego the witness never says anything it is blissful it is Happy
always but a Seeker is actually relieved by this knowledge finally I don't need
to be happy finally this burden of making this machine happy is gone
it is my experience that when I learned this thing when I understood this thing finally that the happiness is an
illusion then they desired to be a happy God was gone and the real Bliss was seen
for the first time the desire to remain continuously in happiness is actually suffering because it never happens and
what are the ways to remain in that kind of state using objects people food
drinks whatever you want you know whatever this machine is asking right now the sense pleasures and they never
give you happiness that must be everybody's experience
so when I when I learned this thing finally realized that it was as if I
finished the big project of my life which was you know to become happy the project was finished it was done now
there is no need to do anything more for the happiness because it is simply mental state illusory
mental state which because of the ignorance appears to be your life goal
because he's asking how long ago a number of years did you realize that happiness is found within and can you
please comment on the quality of peace happiness over the period of time so I
never count the years or time and your question about asking the time how long
ago can you tell me why is that so important for you why are trivial things
important for you when when the meat of the matter is served I mean if I tell
you this many years is it going to make you progress somehow faster
so that is called shallow mind where the important stuff is totally discarded and
the fluff that which is totally useless is held on so focus on the teaching the
teaching is happiness is not found within or outside it is all illusion you are Bliss nothing needs to be done to
get it no I don't answer such questions you see because they waste your time
your mind is asking for a leave from the knowledge there is a resistance in the
mind probably let me ask something which is not so heavy and I'll be kind of
freed from this burden of getting the knowledge so many people keep doing this
so quality of peace happiness over the period of time as I said you see this
happiness and peace that the Mind wants is non-existent so its quality is always
zero no quality there and the Bliss and the Bliss and Bliss and the peace that
you are is always hundred percent pure best quality if you see that your bliss
is changing in quality that means something is wrong because the Bliss
cannot change it is your real nature how can it change siddhant is saying if we use our
criteria to discard everything that is changing Bliss will shine yes you don't even need to discard it simply be
detached from it that is enough discarding or rejecting also means that
it is affecting you in some way paramjit is asking if Guru puts his hand
on your head in your dream what does that mean I had that experience last night I don't know it simply means that
it can be a sign that you are in the right direction you are progressing you are on the right path okay I was in my
dream I was in your dream no problem at all that is even better but you see nobody knows really the art of finding
the meaning of a dream is simply black magic or you can say it is simply magic it can be anything if you ask somebody
else who is a little bit negative he may say that okay the guru is now blessing
you because he's departing forever he's going away forever so he is giving you the final blessing you see that is also
a valid interpretation and somebody can say like those in the psychology people that your desire to be
with the guru is too strong so that is why you are dreaming it you see that is the simplest explanation so paramjit you
can have 20 explanations but nothing will be satisfactory in the dream is not important your
waking state is important yesterday also I was saying this thing in the Hindi section dreams are not important for a
seeker yes she was Desiring during baking state that is all dream is it is
a reflection of your waking state siddhant is saying I think some psychologist may make valid points about
dreams yes there there is a big section of the dreams like 99 of the dreams that you
can simply explain as garbage there's nothing important there sometimes we are amazed by some kind of dreams that are
that you cannot explain and then we don't call them dreams we call them visions and what happens is ignorant
people think that all drinks are Visions but no all dreams are mostly garbage
you will need to evolve to a very great degree you will need to become somebody
great to have that kind of vision that kind of experience which is really
meaningful right now your waking state is also garbage so
there is no possibility of some meaningful dream there remember your
waking state is nothing but a dream is it good you should start from the waking State
not from the dreams start making your waking State as awake as possible right
now it is just like dream sleep zombie state so that is most important for you
if you found a guru in the waking state that is more important than seeing some
flickering images of somebody strange in the dream for few seconds how is that
important so I think again there's some strategy of the mind that it tries to hold on to
the important things instead of doing something which is really needed which is really necessary which is approaching
a guru and then studying under that Guru for your whole life
this is very difficult job so what the Mind holds on to is some images in the
night time fleeting images oh I'm progressing because I got this dream so this is called laziness of mind it is
not a power you are not really making any spiritual progress if you simply
dream nothing is happening actually you can say Escape mechanism because there
is a strong desire that I should be on a path I should get a guru I should
systematically study now I should do the practice as described in the tradition
but no these things are too difficult for an average Seeker what is easy close
your eyes and dream something random so that's what the Mind does simply reflects the desires in few seconds in a
dream and why do you give it so much importance nobody knows nobody knows why
do they give so much importance to the dream remember if you are giving so much importance to the dream you must be
giving probably thousand times more important to the waking state which is also a dream and that is why you are
trapped here so should we not give any importance to the waking State we should just like I
said this is more important but what is the job of this state what is the what
is your job here is to wake up from the waking has to go beyond the waking state that
is your job and that cannot be done by watching some dreams here and there it is a hard work and although I keep
criticizing the dreams and these things you know visions and whatever I don't know why people keep asking me every
satsang there is there are one or two questions that I saw this dream now please tell me how much progress I made
how extraordinary I am and every time I tell them these bitter words if you are
not progressing in the waking then dreaming is totally useless at least you
should do some efforts in the waking State at least join a path at least do
the program or you know do whatever your Guru told you to do what I'll do I'll keep reading the books
I'll keep watching the videos and I'll keep imagining things in my dreams and
that is how I'm going to progress so this is complete stupidity isn't it
and that is why I call this the lazy mind they don't really want to practice they don't really want to progress so
they keep finding some ways to entertain themselves with the so-called spiritual
things Munising psychologist psychoanalysts
have made dreams very popular and appear meaningful but that is only for the purpose of therapy to deal with mental
afflictions yes they are like simply like blood tests in case of the physical illness
so they they try to find out something what is wrong in the body using the blood test in the same way the kind of
garbage that mind throws out in the night is useful for finding what is wrong there it is diagnostic here so
that is saying I still dream about failing in exams here's useful for diagnosing the phobias and so on you see
and nothing good for Spiritual progress like I know some mechanics who can tell
what is wrong in what part of the car by simply listening to the noise of the car they drive around for five minutes and
then they tell me what is wrong in your car same way the noise of the mind is
useful in finding out what is wrong with it and it is always something like this
like he said on this saying some childhood phobias some fears some
desires that are stored there which could not be expressed in the daytime but if you are on The Path of Knowledge
do you really need this kind of diagnostic why don't you simply open the doors open the cupboard and look inside
during waking hours waking state is it impossible actually if you are in Awareness all the
time the baking State itself is going to tell you a lot about what is going on in the mind what happens is people are not
aware at all and this complete darkness inside it goes on and on and in complete
darkness so they are unable to find out what is wrong with this mind and then these doctors and all they use these
kind of tricks to find out hypnosis and pictures and who knows what the random
dots so these are the tricks to get something out of completely dark mind
but if there is light of awareness then everything will be crystal clear in your
view what is happening there it's all known clearly
and that is why we don't have these terms like unconscious mind or subconscious mind because they are
simply degrees of ignorance degrees of unawareness little bit of awareness and
you can get 90 percent of knowledge of your mind just little bit you don't even
need to be doctor also you need to know what is it that's all and just like I said in the videos also
that once you know your mind you will know all the minds you will know everybody you don't need Dreaming Dreams
and all kind of analysis to do that simply stay with them for few minutes you will know their past and lives and
future 10 lives it is possible nothing is unconscious nothing is
subconscious simply the people are in complete darkness they don't even come
to know what they're talking because you see complete darkness if somebody is talking to you there is a very little
chance that you will really understand what they want what they mean what what they are saying are they lying or
something like this so the ability to know others comes by ability to know
your own mind how will you know your own mind simply
watch become aware is it necessary no it's not necessary if you are progressing spiritually no problem at
all because this will be dead in some years whatever you think is me mine or
is causing problems will be gone very soon it's not necessary to know what is
going on there and it is not necessary to improve it also because it disappears
but what what about my next life it will reappear with the same tendencies so you need to kill your prey completely
you see don't play with that thing just kill it
the ultimate solution is to not to reappear here and the patchwork like repair of the Indian roads that can work
is to improve yourself by yourself I'm in this mind they never improve you see next time there is rebirth
it again goes down the drain like next Monsoon the shiny roads they become potholes same thing will be repeated in
your next life unless you set your goal to be complete Liberation from the human
birth what will happen after that nothing unusual same mind but this time it will
be a little bit manageable Benjamin is asking isn't mind
continuously offering what you use to like or dislike but with awareness you
won't grab or Ripple so the bondage is thin away yes simply becoming aware is
the cure of the past habitual actions
because of asking in your experience did the Transfiguration from being the
illusory individual to Pure brim and happened gradually or did it all happen
all at once I can't recall now what happened but the knowledge is that you
see you are always the Brahman you are always the whole so what really happens is not transformation what really
happens is destruction of the individual the individual does not become the whole the individual is destroyed in the hole
appears from behind this dead body ego death happens not transformation and
sometimes the individual is still there only its illusion is seen that it is illusory and that much is the ego death
that much is the dissolution of the illusion or dissolution of the individual now what is known is that I
was always the whole I was always this whole existence I can give you an example you're what
you are watching a movie on the screen now after the movie is over you realize that there is no movie there is only
screen and when did this movie disappear and the screen reappear and the screen
appeared when did the movie transform into the screen never you see this never
happened the screen was always there when the movie is playing let us say it
did not finish and you simply realize look this is the screen only the movie is the illusion then also it is okay you
see so thinking that this individual will be transformed into Brahman is
complete ignorance that means nothing was understood in the non-dual teachings
it is not a transformation it is like uncovering now you can ask you know when did that uncovering happen how did it
happen so on probably you're trying to get a method to become Brahman so you
already have the method isn't it the method is simply to adopt your paths start your spiritual study go to the
guru that is the method and when it happens is not really important because you are always the same screen all the
time when it gets uncovered do you want to mark it on the calendar and celebrate it every year or something like this
no it is an important the important thing to do is start the process take up
the path you will find that it was not a process also it was Grace it all happens
by grace sushant is asking please once again shed some light on local memory
local memory is simply hypothetical part of the memory Universal memory
which is being used in The Waking state by this creature right whatever like whatever happened today is stored there
whatever experiences happened they are stored there and so on so what is the use of that
and the only use that I know of is survival there is no other use and why
does it do that why can't you store everything in the Universal memory actually it is universal memory it is
not different from the universal it is simply a demarcation in the Universal
memory the system has allocated this much memory for the waking state to
remain alive that is all local memories so as soon as the survival job is over
the maintenance job starts and the local memory becomes inactive because you know
if the senses are feeding it and the senses are somewhat inactive not totally inactive somewhat it looks like
they're inactive but they are not feeding the memory now local memory and that is why we do not remember what
happened in the sleep because its use is only in the survival sleep state does
not require it so the creature is free to process some other kind of memories and there you will find the larger areas
of the memory they come into play that is what is called the projected States
and you can even access the your the causal memory and even bigger memories and now you can understand the obsession
of people for the dream states they think it is something great
so yes the local memory is the smallest memory that the creature is using tiny memory
and then the dream memory comes then the projected memories and then causal memory and so on greater memory
as you go away from the waking the area that you can access in the Universal
memory becomes bigger and bigger and bigger if you also call going higher and higher and higher because the words
don't really mean anything it simply means what can you access in the other states how much area how much part of
the memory because you know area is also saying that it has a size or a shape but
no these these words are only helpers it is completely Ram you can access
anything from anywhere so why it happens that only in these states where you are
completely gone the bigger memories become accessible because your waking state is actually bigger problem not the
other states now other states have a bigger Freedom the waking state is the narrowest possible state
now this is mind-blowing because we consider the waking as the
highest possible isn't it waking as the best and just now I said you know give more importance to the waking not to the
dream yes but the fact is that waking is the narrowest part of the not part of
your experience and why is that because of this local memory it takes hold of
the waking State as soon as the local memory becomes active you are in the waking state that is called waking up
from the sleep in the morning and now it takes over the whole attention the attention span across the memories it is
so strong that it takes over and whatever is coming from this five senses and little bit from the internal senses
and even the tiniest part from the non-physical sensors which is your emotions thoughts and whatever that goes
in the local memory and the whole attention is narrowed down to this much and that is done simply for survival
survival demands this kind of extreme measure and you can verify what I'm
saying and try to dream while driving the car or while hunting some animals or
while working in your office look at the reaction of your boss or if you are a student try projecting in your classroom
survival is challenged by this so in this structure become strained in
keeping it in the narrow band for almost 16 hours per day
and that is a torture for a Seeker isn't it why just like I said there is no happiness there is no fulfillment
nothing is achieved in achieved in this human life so it becomes a torture
unnecessary activity very very limited and that is why it is recommended to get
rid of the human life not human life you know some people can go and kill themselves so we use the word get rid of
the human wombs your knees do not take birth in human form again because it's a
torture it's very boring also and then you are devoid of all that goodness of the universal memory where there are
infinite things to experience that means you are not progressing the evolution is
held up because of this local memory so there is there are more
functions of the local memory the first is survival of course but the second is
collection you see the storage the karmic storage or the causal memory is
updated every night from the local memory it is like a backup process those who are in software will understand this
process completely because the mind is simply information system so whatever
experiences were gained in the daytime or in the waking State they are then backed up in the causal memory so this
causal memory never forgets anything with the local memory is very local you know you have forgotten what what you
did one week ago probably yesterday also it is so short term but the causal
remembers everything that you have done since you're born and probably even something from many many lives also it's
stored there it's all stored there so that is what is called Sanjay or your storage
so the local memory is the cause of growth of this storage and it dies with
the organism yes because survival is over so its need is over so it dies it is destroyed but the storage lives on
and that is why you know and then then the new life experience life packet is
allotted from the storage which is we which is what we call as the pre-allocation
and if you remove the local memory there won't be anything you see in the storage probably there will be something else
but right now it is so much of it that the pre-allocation is mostly about human
life again and that is why there is a human birth again so your local memory is actually responsible for rebirth
because it is the one that is feeding the causal now you can join your points you can join the points of the puzzle
why people live alone in Corners away from the society in the jungles in the
caves why do they do that why do they sit there with eyes closed most of the time or they remain engaged in some kind
of service or spiritual work yes sushant is Right cut down the
activity of the local memory and you will cut down your storage probably after a long practice of many lifetimes
there won't be anything to pre-lock it finally you're freed from this jaws of
the local memory this is the whole story
and it is fascinating actually because you know it is interesting that we know this much also and I can tell you this
is not written in any of the psychology book or psychoanalysis or whatever like
they are limited to dream analysis only they don't know all these things you
will also say how do you know all these things yes most of it is not based on my experience it is from the guru's word
mouth you know but it is so logical just like I said you know you can connect the
dots and everything makes sense now so logical that you must accept it as the
working model this will not fail this has not failed
since many thousand years there's no chance that it will fail for a few thousand years and if you are lucky you
will be the one who made some discovery that you know validates something else invalidate some hypothesis here and
there in the causal memories and so on in the process of rebirth and so on you
can do that kind of research you see but how will you get the evidence that this story is true by your own experience
try to find the evidence in your own experience look is is there a local memory
try to fight it look what happens to the local memory in the Sleep State what happens in to the memories that are
present in the local memory where do they go look at these people who can remember all the events of their lives
all the dates and they can they need to look at the whole city for five minutes and they can draw everything in that
City these kind of people you know they are they provide the evidence somehow in them the boundaries of the local memory
have broken there must be some kind of seekers in their past lives
when did I saying local memory is stored like cookies yes you can save it they
are a good tool to keep this body alive keep this interface working nicely
so you can dig down into this very interesting topic and what is the use of
going into so much depth you see knowledge is the starting point from
here you can start applying this knowledge and instead of sitting in the cave and so on you see don't do these
things they are extreme things but cut down the unnecessary that is why we say these things cut down the
necessary how to do that by simply by being in Awareness what is awareness
knowledge of who you are how to get that knowledge Path of Knowledge see everything is so straightforward
by being in Awareness you will cut down the unnecessary you know why why should
I cut down the necessary because you know the nature of the local memory and the strap of the causal memories and so
on and then you will be freed from the repetitive existence and what is wrong in this repetition nothing is wrong but
the evolution is held up some people can think that is also okay but we don't we
are logical people you see Path of Knowledge we want progress so these this is the way to progress forward knowledge
is the starting point I can tell you you know I can order you that you know cut down these these
disease things from your life including your wife and you will be very happy but you will not know why I told you to do
that so I need to tell you the whole Theory I need to tell you the whole mind and then because you are so intellectual
you will be pleased finally now I need to progress this will be your decision this is The Path of Knowledge you see
you cannot order people here is saying can you please share some
information about Tom spark I don't have a lot of information but I heard him
saying about this thing and it is his own project and where is this park and what he's doing with it you know so now
this is the interesting thing he did not buy property and started making a path
there for kids and all no he has created his own world in the non-physical domain
now people will be in a surprise but how is it even possible so this is the this
happens eventually inevitable you will also do it probably you won't call it
park or something which you it will be your own world and we call it the guru
look in Sanskrit so Tom's Park is nothing but a guru Lok he has created it in the non-physical
somewhere you know astral in the local language and he invites people there so
anybody who is following him is allowed entry in that Park and that much I know
that that's all I know how what is there I don't know really I never went there
the interesting things I know about it because we are doing this since many thousand years yes Resort like yes there
you know just like any any good Hill station Pleasures activity we are doing this since thousands of years and many
of the gurus have their own words what is the use of this kind of Park can
somebody guess you know having fun is one use yes you can have fun there you can enjoy that
thing which your Guru has created where there there are some people there
who can help with spiritual progress yes explore Universal memory yes so Shanti
saying experiment and evolve very good yes so knowledge is another um you can say function which you can be
taken out there in the guru Lok and free from all the distractions that this kind
of world offers you you can progress there very fast if that is saying healing and progress yes healing why why
healing you see because even the dead people are taken there if you died from something you know because of something
which was not so good then it is almost guaranteed that the next birth will be
not so good so what do they do these people you know hopefully your Guru
himself will come and pick you but you need to be somebody important to be the effect to be served like that but there
are helpers yes there are volunteers who will pick these dead people and specifically from the path that they are
following the tradition and the path not random people from the street no we don't pick them they will say like this
so anybody who has done some kind of referred in Walking on any kind of spiritual path they are pigged if they
die suddenly your something bad happens and they are taken to that world then
they recover there kind of rebirth they get a little bit of
time to decide what to do in the next birth the biggest actually function of the
guru Lok is to prevent the rebirth let us say if you have a desire to drive a
new shiny car you know I am giving just very random simple example and your causal body says yes sure go ahead back
into the human world that death world this is called the death World Earth and
you come here and you work for 20 years 30 years you get the car you drive around and so on and it amounts to
nothing but you have wasted a whole lifetime for that what the guru can do is you know pick you up just after you
die and can sense that you have this desire okay he can immediately transport you into part of his World park where
you can drive 20 cars at the same time and in one day you are over it is done
so you your one birth is saved so this concept is not new even in
newbie tantric is taught how to create yes you won't be able to create the whole world right now but you will be
able to create a room isn't it it's possible this this kind of Worlds they are
artificial you can say shelters only for Seekers nobody else can go there and
what kind of seekers those who are favorite of their gurus and who is your who is the favorite of the guru those
who want to progress isn't it that is all that is the criteria you don't want
to progress you just want to listen to the stories no entry in the guru world
but you are sweating you're working hard you are even giving away like you are serving then you become the favorite of
the guru and obviously you get free pass in the guru world
and not only that he will teach you how to create your own so that you can do the same thing not only gurus every
deity has their own world who are these deities who are these Devas they are humans only they were humans they
progressed so that is why I said you will also do it nothing new we all are
going to do it okay siddhan is saying Thomas said that people can come there after death yes
yes that is the whole purpose of this thing you see you can go there right now also without dying but you will be sent
back you can go there as a tourist JS is asking are we talking about projections
or there's something else to these worlds they are a world in themselves just like your world vikas is asking
there seems to be a minor disagreement between the two the Tom's philosophy is
not really non-dual philosophy that is why not minor there is a major difference the arm is mostly on the
experience side although he holds the Consciousness as the fundamental and so on you see but that is where he leaves
the non-dual philosophy and he's more into the local side now that is why he's doing experiments setting up the worlds
and teaching you remote viewing and healing and so on you see and that is also very useful but yes the other
fellows will disagree at some point there because he has his own Theory
so it is saying isn't all the Affliction of the Mind there because it is devoid
of pure love it totally depends on what do you mean by pure love you see you and me are when this is pure love isn't it
so if somebody is devoid of this thing that means they are devoid of this knowledge that we are all one and yes
the ignorance is an Affliction in itself actually it is the biggest Affliction so
if you interpret this question like this yes everybody is Afflicted because they
don't know who they are now if you take the meaning of the love
as the emotion and the need you know the social need the emotional need and the
intellectual need and the physical need that kind of love then yes now you can
you have entered the psycho psychology again yes lack of Love causes lots of
afflictions you can get the money yes you can get the position in the society you can get
your objects clothes and jewelry but you cannot get the love of the other that is
the problem in this world and that gives rise to this need and that causes many
many distortions in the mind so Ordinary People are afflicted yes but
even Seekers are afflicted by this thing and no matter how how much I tell them that look you are the love you are the
one in everyone no no they don't understand because you know the mind has the need not the
experiencer the experiencer has no need at all you see it is free from desires
and all these activities mind has this need and if just like any other need if this is not fulfilled or this is
suppressed or worse case they get the hate instead of love in
many cases are there where people are hated bitterly and they become like mad the crazy people afflicted
so why is this desire most important you know compared to all other desires this
is fundamental there are three fundamental desires the
security growth and reproduction these things these three if nobody loves you
what will be your security zero yes love is needed growth means feeding is it
food shelter if nobody loves you not even your mother is it possible no
reproduction I need not say it so what is the most important need now yes to be
loved and what is the most lacking thing in this world love the result is everybody's crazy
who is who is free from all these things the one who knows his true nature I am
love and so I can only give it I am the source not the sink I Am The Giver not
the receiver those who know these things they are free from all afflictions instantly they
become free because not now you're not begging for your love you're not
actually begging for your security or your food or your reproduction that is
all taken care of because you are not all that which this Mind Body does and instantly this burden is dropped this
need is gone then you see use you realize that I am
the source of the love because I am the one in everyone and so the fountain Sprouts from you instead of you becoming
the drain where sometimes few drops they're drained you become the Fountain of love
and you start giving instead of asking demanding and that makes the Mind healthier
so very good question by sweetie so those who like one line Solutions the
solution is to give not to take if you are doing the give and take take
and take only that is selfishness not love as soon as I see a dependent
relation it means a bond between two people whether either they're forced to live together or they are you know
emotionally bound so much dependent on each other I can immediately see the
lack of Love there because it means total Independence Freedom not bondage
so highly demanding people highly possessive people or those who like relations of all kinds and so on these
people they lack love most and you can see their behavior is totally Afflicted not normal those who are helplessly
dependent on each other they both lack love and they're both demanding that's why they never get it then their
businessmen kind of people you do this much for me I'll do this much for you plus free gift
this is the most hopeless condition in this society and the biggest example of
that is the marriage a marriage is a sure sign of lack of love somebody who's full of love will never
marry anybody so you see this Path of Knowledge it turns everything upside down and if you
tell these things to Ordinary People they will think you are crazy yes they are crazy and those who you know they
are standing upside down and those who are standing right side up they'll look like upside down that is the issue with
this society today so as you grow in your spiritual paths
as you travel you become less and less social that is the side effect you won't be able to talk to anybody you won't be
able to sit with anybody it does not mean that you don't love it you know Nick you cannot tolerate that thing when
you see this company of seekers then you seek the company of the guru because only the guru understands you nobody
else and then you go in the Solitude because nobody wants anything if you
want to give they will start exploiting you that is the problem in the society
so the situation is almost impossible to cure in the only way is to grow out of
it you need to evolve out of this society and then service is the best expression of the love and best Services
serving the knowledge you can give money you can give food you can give anything
you want that you have but that is considered as the inferior kind of service the Superior Services serving
knowledge otherwise what do you do is you create an army of Beggars demanding
people exploiting people I mean the people start exploiting you because you are selflessly giving but if you serve
knowledge it's completely safe if they take advantage of you they will become more knowledgeable that is the good
thing and now you can connect the dots here also what are we doing actually whatever
we are doing is simply love there is nothing else here going on as soon as you recognize that the other is me the
only thing you can do is service so it should start with self-service first you should serve whatever you
think is me and obviously the witness does not require anything so you start with something which is closest to the
witness which is your mind you serve it you know make it healthy wealthy Rich
intelligent then you serve the body because you know that is the vehicle then you serve the society other people
because this boy needs to live with these people we are social animals and then you serve the environment because
without it nothing will survive now you come to know the importance of
service why it is so important in the spiritual field pratib is saying today is love day it is
every day's love day are we not doing this every day pradeep
is also doing the same thing pratik is saying I love is enough you comes later if you is not there isn't it you is also
me so I love always I it is selfish which is totally selfish
I think you have said modern temples are not as powerful as the ancient ones
do you think what satguru's building is authentic like the old temples Temple
what can I tell is you know only the words that I heard from his own mouth and some devotees you can call them
devotees but they are practitioners they are The Seekers so if you believe him yes this has the
power this is the authentic one and how will you come to know this thing okay pratif has the testimony many people
have told me that yes this is authentic and you know they don't know much about you know that thing how many chakras
they they could perceive and so on Guru says it is consecrated up to the
six chakras and so on who knows how he did that but if you want to experience you know
not experience experiment if you want to experiment what the deities look like how the fit like what was the effect of
the deities that were consecuted consecrated for spiritual growth etc etc then your best experiment is
this the handling a temple created by satguru and they I know there are some more but
they're top secret I don't know the location I don't know their location I don't know who made them because they're
private just like your private swimming pool you don't allow others to swim in your
private swimming pool they don't allow others to practice in their own temples which they have consecrated so here's
the this is the public one this is the first one that is public in recent time
experiment inside then you will know what's there in the handling and Devi Temple and he's saying other than you I
cannot talk that stuff is so rare yes it's rare even the experiences that you
get there you won't have any language to express them because I know the
experiences of um the worshipers of Devi he created I mean he created it baby also not only
this lingam and he's selling the Devi that is being sold like an object but
that's okay you know that is the local path link wherever yes you're right and people have told me the experiences
they had with this baby which was made by produced by sad group
and sometimes they cannot tell what what happens there but I know what it is doing I know what satguru is doing I
know what this handling a temple is doing but that should not be told in public
yes but this is right people will get scared if we talk openly and then you will need to face sadhguru
some someday you see then what will you do where are you going to run so it is our duty to keep the vocal Secret
but you can understand a few things about these things that you see the deities were created by humans not the
other way they were created for our service what is happening humans are serving these things it is like after
let us say 3000 years people will set up a temple of Google and they will start worshiping Google and then somebody will
tell them look this was created using this technology and it was a search engine for your service and probably
they will kill you because it is their religion now Google religion
so this has happened and sadhguru is trying to reverse it there is knowledge
there is technology to create things like this it is lost so this is this my
interpretation is based totally on whatever he says because who else can say about these things who knows about
these things apart from satguru hardly anybody those who do no they do not talk
you need to go and experience it that is my recommendation if nothing happens there then it is nothing useless or you
can say beautiful thing to behold but but if you are sensitive
then it will speed up the spiritual growth Graham is saying I feel like even little
statues of deity I've bought on the street have power if I treat them with respect like indeed yes you can create
all those things you see simply by your intention the magic is within you not in the State shoes
so here we are going to end our satsang thank you everybody for attending
today's satsang and rest of the questions if any will take in the next one
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