PEOS 205 : Illusion, Bliss, Mind, Dreams, Local Memory, Guruworld, Pure Love, Deities

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existence it is established that there is no such thing as prior existence which I agree but does that mean that

things spontaneously appear if I go for a walk and see a stranger does that

stranger has prior existence or is just spontaneously appearing yes very good

question and according to our model of the illusion yes everything is already

there in the Universal memory however it is simply data it is simply information

or you can say vibration patterns of vibration highly structured

so the stranger is simply a pattern of vibration The Stranger has no existence

as a person as a human whatever but there is existence of these patterns in

the memory and if you go deeper then the the memory or the vibration is simply

possibility so actually there is only potential for these things to appear as a potential

for anything to appear so ultimately there is nothing and that nothing is the

existence actually The Emptiness with infinite possibilities is the existence and it is

actually you you are that so obviously you are always present eternally present there is no prior

there is no leader there is no time also so you will need to climb down some

steps into the illusion to even answer this question otherwise from the highest

point of view the question has no meaning because there is no before and there is no after in the existence

your nature is timeless but if you allow the illusion little bit then there will

be some answers which will be false answers because the illusion can give you only illusory answers nothing more

so we form a model in the model our model says that everything is actually a

memory and the memory has the potential to be anything to store anything and

whatever appears appears through the laws of the memory loss of the illusion so what actually is is simply you and

what actually appears is totally different which this intellect cannot grasp what it is and simply calls it a

stranger or a person there is nothing there except you and that you is

completely empty without any qualities Benjamin is saying can one be in Bliss

if there is still a notion of good or bad attached to the sense perceptions yes you are always in Bliss eternally

Blissful even if there is a notion of good or bad attached to the senses or even if there is no such notion attached

no matter what the experience is the experiencer is always in place it will

never go away because that is your nature to be Blissful or Bliss is your nature

what comes and what goes is not you and this good and bad and attachment and perceptions they keep coming and going

so you can be sure about the place so probably he's asking about the Bliss of

the mind and there is no such thing a peace whatever they call as mental peace

there is no such thing it is always a duality whatever you call

as happiness there is always a counterpart which is the sadness

suffering depression whatever it comes in lots of varieties so that is not

bliss bliss is the background and these things are just like waves

so the mind is never Blissful it can be happy it can be sad but this is never

Blissful and it can be inactive and it can be highly active but it can never be

peaceful we should not confuse the word bliss with some kind of mental state or mental

activity emotion thought or even pleasure Bliss is not any of that it is

simply your nature when there is no activity where there is no activity not

positive not negative that state is called the Bliss state that is the only state of the experiencer peace and Bliss

are same thing some people may ask you know why is happiness not Bliss that is what people

think is bliss it is not Bliss because it is impermanent the definition of the

places it is eternal like we say you are eternally blissful we do not say that you are Blissful

sometimes and not Blissful other times we never say like this and whatever makes you happy that is also impermanent

and that is why the mental states are impermanent because they are dependent on something external to them and

whatever is external to you is impermanent place is your nature it is not dependent

on anything and that is why it is permanent so in ordinary language people

take Bliss to mean some kind of happiness joy but any spiritual Seeker

should know that that is the wrong meaning even in Sanskrit and Hindi the same

corruption has happened the translation of bliss is Anand but the Ordinary People ignorant people they

think it is happiness so you are never happy don't worry and you are never sad

you are always blissful there will be some people who will say what is the use of bliss it's completely

useless I want this other kind of bliss which is even if it is temporary I want

it no no problem actually because whatever you call happiness is simply

emergence of your inner Bliss only and whatever you think is the emotion of

happiness is simply a reaction of your mind to the Bliss state

this can be easily shown that if there is a desire it does not get fulfilled

mine enters a state of suffering as soon as the desire is fulfilled the Mind

enters a state of Happiness why because something is gone not because it got

something something is gone that which was troubling it is gone and that moment in that moment the inner Bliss shines in

the mind and the mind reacts to this thing finally I got it something like this and that makes you happy

so you can have that happiness also but it is like loose coin Loose Change

pennies compared to that which you are which sometimes shines in the mind

so like we say in the hermetic philosophy cabalian that in the

experiences are not really dual they are one there is only difference of degree

so whatever you think is happiness is only one where it becomes too low you

call it suffering and when it comes to zero you call it happiness so it is always negative that means your

happiness is also suffering but zero suffering and your suffering is actual suffering but actually negative

happiness that is how they saw it and I completely agree because experiences are

relative that is the law of relativity and the first one is called the law of

polarity so how to make something polar obviously by picking its relative parts

so your happiness and suffering is actually one state only the degree is

different so if the degree is very negative you

call it suffering I'm sad I'm frustrated I'm angry so on if it is not in that

degree if it is not troubling you that much then you call it happiness which is

simply shining of your background because there are no clouds of suffering the sun of the Bliss shines for a while

obviously does not last for more than few seconds and people instead of actually tasting that Bliss they react

to it and you know laugh dance Pride sense of achievement and as soon as this

suffering is removed you see there is no happiness only removal of suffering temporary removal as soon as that

happens a new set of thoughts they come that I did it finally I got it I am the

best and then the negative thoughts also come what if I what if I lose it what if

somebody snatches it from me what if something happens to me and I die before enjoying this thing which I got where is

my lock I need to protect it first so immediately the suffering starts

which is in the form of these thoughts and that's why I tell you that the mind can never be happy it is not meant to be

happy who is meant to be happy you hopefully Benjamin is understanding my

points forget about mind you know forget about improving it or making it happy or

whatever you can only become detached to whatever it is doing and now everything is okay

the ignorance is to think that the activity of the mind is fulfillment it never brings fulfillment it simply

brings fruits some people are depressed by this thought that oh no there is no real

happiness and this Bliss is totally boring because it is not as exciting as

the whatever the mind produces obviously it is these words are being said by the

mind the ego the witness never says anything it is blissful it is Happy

always but a Seeker is actually relieved by this knowledge finally I don't need

to be happy finally this burden of making this machine happy is gone

it is my experience that when I learned this thing when I understood this thing finally that the happiness is an

illusion then they desired to be a happy God was gone and the real Bliss was seen

for the first time the desire to remain continuously in happiness is actually suffering because it never happens and

what are the ways to remain in that kind of state using objects people food

drinks whatever you want you know whatever this machine is asking right now the sense pleasures and they never

give you happiness that must be everybody's experience

so when I when I learned this thing finally realized that it was as if I

finished the big project of my life which was you know to become happy the project was finished it was done now

there is no need to do anything more for the happiness because it is simply mental state illusory

mental state which because of the ignorance appears to be your life goal

because he's asking how long ago a number of years did you realize that happiness is found within and can you

please comment on the quality of peace happiness over the period of time so I

never count the years or time and your question about asking the time how long

ago can you tell me why is that so important for you why are trivial things

important for you when when the meat of the matter is served I mean if I tell

you this many years is it going to make you progress somehow faster

so that is called shallow mind where the important stuff is totally discarded and

the fluff that which is totally useless is held on so focus on the teaching the

teaching is happiness is not found within or outside it is all illusion you are Bliss nothing needs to be done to

get it no I don't answer such questions you see because they waste your time

your mind is asking for a leave from the knowledge there is a resistance in the

mind probably let me ask something which is not so heavy and I'll be kind of

freed from this burden of getting the knowledge so many people keep doing this

so quality of peace happiness over the period of time as I said you see this

happiness and peace that the Mind wants is non-existent so its quality is always

zero no quality there and the Bliss and the Bliss and Bliss and the peace that

you are is always hundred percent pure best quality if you see that your bliss

is changing in quality that means something is wrong because the Bliss

cannot change it is your real nature how can it change siddhant is saying if we use our

criteria to discard everything that is changing Bliss will shine yes you don't even need to discard it simply be

detached from it that is enough discarding or rejecting also means that

it is affecting you in some way paramjit is asking if Guru puts his hand

on your head in your dream what does that mean I had that experience last night I don't know it simply means that

it can be a sign that you are in the right direction you are progressing you are on the right path okay I was in my

dream I was in your dream no problem at all that is even better but you see nobody knows really the art of finding

the meaning of a dream is simply black magic or you can say it is simply magic it can be anything if you ask somebody

else who is a little bit negative he may say that okay the guru is now blessing

you because he's departing forever he's going away forever so he is giving you the final blessing you see that is also

a valid interpretation and somebody can say like those in the psychology people that your desire to be

with the guru is too strong so that is why you are dreaming it you see that is the simplest explanation so paramjit you

can have 20 explanations but nothing will be satisfactory in the dream is not important your

waking state is important yesterday also I was saying this thing in the Hindi section dreams are not important for a

seeker yes she was Desiring during baking state that is all dream is it is

a reflection of your waking state siddhant is saying I think some psychologist may make valid points about

dreams yes there there is a big section of the dreams like 99 of the dreams that you

can simply explain as garbage there's nothing important there sometimes we are amazed by some kind of dreams that are

that you cannot explain and then we don't call them dreams we call them visions and what happens is ignorant

people think that all drinks are Visions but no all dreams are mostly garbage

you will need to evolve to a very great degree you will need to become somebody

great to have that kind of vision that kind of experience which is really

meaningful right now your waking state is also garbage so

there is no possibility of some meaningful dream there remember your

waking state is nothing but a dream is it good you should start from the waking State

not from the dreams start making your waking State as awake as possible right

now it is just like dream sleep zombie state so that is most important for you

if you found a guru in the waking state that is more important than seeing some

flickering images of somebody strange in the dream for few seconds how is that

important so I think again there's some strategy of the mind that it tries to hold on to

the important things instead of doing something which is really needed which is really necessary which is approaching

a guru and then studying under that Guru for your whole life

this is very difficult job so what the Mind holds on to is some images in the

night time fleeting images oh I'm progressing because I got this dream so this is called laziness of mind it is

not a power you are not really making any spiritual progress if you simply

dream nothing is happening actually you can say Escape mechanism because there

is a strong desire that I should be on a path I should get a guru I should

systematically study now I should do the practice as described in the tradition

but no these things are too difficult for an average Seeker what is easy close

your eyes and dream something random so that's what the Mind does simply reflects the desires in few seconds in a

dream and why do you give it so much importance nobody knows nobody knows why

do they give so much importance to the dream remember if you are giving so much importance to the dream you must be

giving probably thousand times more important to the waking state which is also a dream and that is why you are

trapped here so should we not give any importance to the waking State we should just like I

said this is more important but what is the job of this state what is the what

is your job here is to wake up from the waking has to go beyond the waking state that

is your job and that cannot be done by watching some dreams here and there it is a hard work and although I keep

criticizing the dreams and these things you know visions and whatever I don't know why people keep asking me every

satsang there is there are one or two questions that I saw this dream now please tell me how much progress I made

how extraordinary I am and every time I tell them these bitter words if you are

not progressing in the waking then dreaming is totally useless at least you

should do some efforts in the waking State at least join a path at least do

the program or you know do whatever your Guru told you to do what I'll do I'll keep reading the books

I'll keep watching the videos and I'll keep imagining things in my dreams and

that is how I'm going to progress so this is complete stupidity isn't it

and that is why I call this the lazy mind they don't really want to practice they don't really want to progress so

they keep finding some ways to entertain themselves with the so-called spiritual

things Munising psychologist psychoanalysts

have made dreams very popular and appear meaningful but that is only for the purpose of therapy to deal with mental

afflictions yes they are like simply like blood tests in case of the physical illness

so they they try to find out something what is wrong in the body using the blood test in the same way the kind of

garbage that mind throws out in the night is useful for finding what is wrong there it is diagnostic here so

that is saying I still dream about failing in exams here's useful for diagnosing the phobias and so on you see

and nothing good for Spiritual progress like I know some mechanics who can tell

what is wrong in what part of the car by simply listening to the noise of the car they drive around for five minutes and

then they tell me what is wrong in your car same way the noise of the mind is

useful in finding out what is wrong with it and it is always something like this

like he said on this saying some childhood phobias some fears some

desires that are stored there which could not be expressed in the daytime but if you are on The Path of Knowledge

do you really need this kind of diagnostic why don't you simply open the doors open the cupboard and look inside

during waking hours waking state is it impossible actually if you are in Awareness all the

time the baking State itself is going to tell you a lot about what is going on in the mind what happens is people are not

aware at all and this complete darkness inside it goes on and on and in complete

darkness so they are unable to find out what is wrong with this mind and then these doctors and all they use these

kind of tricks to find out hypnosis and pictures and who knows what the random

dots so these are the tricks to get something out of completely dark mind

but if there is light of awareness then everything will be crystal clear in your

view what is happening there it's all known clearly

and that is why we don't have these terms like unconscious mind or subconscious mind because they are

simply degrees of ignorance degrees of unawareness little bit of awareness and

you can get 90 percent of knowledge of your mind just little bit you don't even

need to be doctor also you need to know what is it that's all and just like I said in the videos also

that once you know your mind you will know all the minds you will know everybody you don't need Dreaming Dreams

and all kind of analysis to do that simply stay with them for few minutes you will know their past and lives and

future 10 lives it is possible nothing is unconscious nothing is

subconscious simply the people are in complete darkness they don't even come

to know what they're talking because you see complete darkness if somebody is talking to you there is a very little

chance that you will really understand what they want what they mean what what they are saying are they lying or

something like this so the ability to know others comes by ability to know

your own mind how will you know your own mind simply

watch become aware is it necessary no it's not necessary if you are progressing spiritually no problem at

all because this will be dead in some years whatever you think is me mine or

is causing problems will be gone very soon it's not necessary to know what is

going on there and it is not necessary to improve it also because it disappears

but what what about my next life it will reappear with the same tendencies so you need to kill your prey completely

you see don't play with that thing just kill it

the ultimate solution is to not to reappear here and the patchwork like repair of the Indian roads that can work

is to improve yourself by yourself I'm in this mind they never improve you see next time there is rebirth

it again goes down the drain like next Monsoon the shiny roads they become potholes same thing will be repeated in

your next life unless you set your goal to be complete Liberation from the human

birth what will happen after that nothing unusual same mind but this time it will

be a little bit manageable Benjamin is asking isn't mind

continuously offering what you use to like or dislike but with awareness you

won't grab or Ripple so the bondage is thin away yes simply becoming aware is

the cure of the past habitual actions

because of asking in your experience did the Transfiguration from being the

illusory individual to Pure brim and happened gradually or did it all happen

all at once I can't recall now what happened but the knowledge is that you

see you are always the Brahman you are always the whole so what really happens is not transformation what really

happens is destruction of the individual the individual does not become the whole the individual is destroyed in the hole

appears from behind this dead body ego death happens not transformation and

sometimes the individual is still there only its illusion is seen that it is illusory and that much is the ego death

that much is the dissolution of the illusion or dissolution of the individual now what is known is that I

was always the whole I was always this whole existence I can give you an example you're what

you are watching a movie on the screen now after the movie is over you realize that there is no movie there is only

screen and when did this movie disappear and the screen reappear and the screen

appeared when did the movie transform into the screen never you see this never

happened the screen was always there when the movie is playing let us say it

did not finish and you simply realize look this is the screen only the movie is the illusion then also it is okay you

see so thinking that this individual will be transformed into Brahman is

complete ignorance that means nothing was understood in the non-dual teachings

it is not a transformation it is like uncovering now you can ask you know when did that uncovering happen how did it

happen so on probably you're trying to get a method to become Brahman so you

already have the method isn't it the method is simply to adopt your paths start your spiritual study go to the

guru that is the method and when it happens is not really important because you are always the same screen all the

time when it gets uncovered do you want to mark it on the calendar and celebrate it every year or something like this

no it is an important the important thing to do is start the process take up

the path you will find that it was not a process also it was Grace it all happens

by grace sushant is asking please once again shed some light on local memory

local memory is simply hypothetical part of the memory Universal memory

which is being used in The Waking state by this creature right whatever like whatever happened today is stored there

whatever experiences happened they are stored there and so on so what is the use of that

and the only use that I know of is survival there is no other use and why

does it do that why can't you store everything in the Universal memory actually it is universal memory it is

not different from the universal it is simply a demarcation in the Universal

memory the system has allocated this much memory for the waking state to

remain alive that is all local memories so as soon as the survival job is over

the maintenance job starts and the local memory becomes inactive because you know

if the senses are feeding it and the senses are somewhat inactive not totally inactive somewhat it looks like

they're inactive but they are not feeding the memory now local memory and that is why we do not remember what

happened in the sleep because its use is only in the survival sleep state does

not require it so the creature is free to process some other kind of memories and there you will find the larger areas

of the memory they come into play that is what is called the projected States

and you can even access the your the causal memory and even bigger memories and now you can understand the obsession

of people for the dream states they think it is something great

so yes the local memory is the smallest memory that the creature is using tiny memory

and then the dream memory comes then the projected memories and then causal memory and so on greater memory

as you go away from the waking the area that you can access in the Universal

memory becomes bigger and bigger and bigger if you also call going higher and higher and higher because the words

don't really mean anything it simply means what can you access in the other states how much area how much part of

the memory because you know area is also saying that it has a size or a shape but

no these these words are only helpers it is completely Ram you can access

anything from anywhere so why it happens that only in these states where you are

completely gone the bigger memories become accessible because your waking state is actually bigger problem not the

other states now other states have a bigger Freedom the waking state is the narrowest possible state

now this is mind-blowing because we consider the waking as the

highest possible isn't it waking as the best and just now I said you know give more importance to the waking not to the

dream yes but the fact is that waking is the narrowest part of the not part of

your experience and why is that because of this local memory it takes hold of

the waking State as soon as the local memory becomes active you are in the waking state that is called waking up

from the sleep in the morning and now it takes over the whole attention the attention span across the memories it is

so strong that it takes over and whatever is coming from this five senses and little bit from the internal senses

and even the tiniest part from the non-physical sensors which is your emotions thoughts and whatever that goes

in the local memory and the whole attention is narrowed down to this much and that is done simply for survival

survival demands this kind of extreme measure and you can verify what I'm

saying and try to dream while driving the car or while hunting some animals or

while working in your office look at the reaction of your boss or if you are a student try projecting in your classroom

survival is challenged by this so in this structure become strained in

keeping it in the narrow band for almost 16 hours per day

and that is a torture for a Seeker isn't it why just like I said there is no happiness there is no fulfillment

nothing is achieved in achieved in this human life so it becomes a torture

unnecessary activity very very limited and that is why it is recommended to get

rid of the human life not human life you know some people can go and kill themselves so we use the word get rid of

the human wombs your knees do not take birth in human form again because it's a

torture it's very boring also and then you are devoid of all that goodness of the universal memory where there are

infinite things to experience that means you are not progressing the evolution is

held up because of this local memory so there is there are more

functions of the local memory the first is survival of course but the second is

collection you see the storage the karmic storage or the causal memory is

updated every night from the local memory it is like a backup process those who are in software will understand this

process completely because the mind is simply information system so whatever

experiences were gained in the daytime or in the waking State they are then backed up in the causal memory so this

causal memory never forgets anything with the local memory is very local you know you have forgotten what what you

did one week ago probably yesterday also it is so short term but the causal

remembers everything that you have done since you're born and probably even something from many many lives also it's

stored there it's all stored there so that is what is called Sanjay or your storage

so the local memory is the cause of growth of this storage and it dies with

the organism yes because survival is over so its need is over so it dies it is destroyed but the storage lives on

and that is why you know and then then the new life experience life packet is

allotted from the storage which is we which is what we call as the pre-allocation

and if you remove the local memory there won't be anything you see in the storage probably there will be something else

but right now it is so much of it that the pre-allocation is mostly about human

life again and that is why there is a human birth again so your local memory is actually responsible for rebirth

because it is the one that is feeding the causal now you can join your points you can join the points of the puzzle

why people live alone in Corners away from the society in the jungles in the

caves why do they do that why do they sit there with eyes closed most of the time or they remain engaged in some kind

of service or spiritual work yes sushant is Right cut down the

activity of the local memory and you will cut down your storage probably after a long practice of many lifetimes

there won't be anything to pre-lock it finally you're freed from this jaws of

the local memory this is the whole story

and it is fascinating actually because you know it is interesting that we know this much also and I can tell you this

is not written in any of the psychology book or psychoanalysis or whatever like

they are limited to dream analysis only they don't know all these things you

will also say how do you know all these things yes most of it is not based on my experience it is from the guru's word

mouth you know but it is so logical just like I said you know you can connect the

dots and everything makes sense now so logical that you must accept it as the

working model this will not fail this has not failed

since many thousand years there's no chance that it will fail for a few thousand years and if you are lucky you

will be the one who made some discovery that you know validates something else invalidate some hypothesis here and

there in the causal memories and so on in the process of rebirth and so on you

can do that kind of research you see but how will you get the evidence that this story is true by your own experience

try to find the evidence in your own experience look is is there a local memory

try to fight it look what happens to the local memory in the Sleep State what happens in to the memories that are

present in the local memory where do they go look at these people who can remember all the events of their lives

all the dates and they can they need to look at the whole city for five minutes and they can draw everything in that

City these kind of people you know they are they provide the evidence somehow in them the boundaries of the local memory

have broken there must be some kind of seekers in their past lives

when did I saying local memory is stored like cookies yes you can save it they

are a good tool to keep this body alive keep this interface working nicely

so you can dig down into this very interesting topic and what is the use of

going into so much depth you see knowledge is the starting point from

here you can start applying this knowledge and instead of sitting in the cave and so on you see don't do these

things they are extreme things but cut down the unnecessary that is why we say these things cut down the

necessary how to do that by simply by being in Awareness what is awareness

knowledge of who you are how to get that knowledge Path of Knowledge see everything is so straightforward

by being in Awareness you will cut down the unnecessary you know why why should

I cut down the necessary because you know the nature of the local memory and the strap of the causal memories and so

on and then you will be freed from the repetitive existence and what is wrong in this repetition nothing is wrong but

the evolution is held up some people can think that is also okay but we don't we

are logical people you see Path of Knowledge we want progress so these this is the way to progress forward knowledge

is the starting point I can tell you you know I can order you that you know cut down these these

disease things from your life including your wife and you will be very happy but you will not know why I told you to do

that so I need to tell you the whole Theory I need to tell you the whole mind and then because you are so intellectual

you will be pleased finally now I need to progress this will be your decision this is The Path of Knowledge you see

you cannot order people here is saying can you please share some

information about Tom spark I don't have a lot of information but I heard him

saying about this thing and it is his own project and where is this park and what he's doing with it you know so now

this is the interesting thing he did not buy property and started making a path

there for kids and all no he has created his own world in the non-physical domain

now people will be in a surprise but how is it even possible so this is the this

happens eventually inevitable you will also do it probably you won't call it

park or something which you it will be your own world and we call it the guru

look in Sanskrit so Tom's Park is nothing but a guru Lok he has created it in the non-physical

somewhere you know astral in the local language and he invites people there so

anybody who is following him is allowed entry in that Park and that much I know

that that's all I know how what is there I don't know really I never went there

the interesting things I know about it because we are doing this since many thousand years yes Resort like yes there

you know just like any any good Hill station Pleasures activity we are doing this since thousands of years and many

of the gurus have their own words what is the use of this kind of Park can

somebody guess you know having fun is one use yes you can have fun there you can enjoy that

thing which your Guru has created where there there are some people there

who can help with spiritual progress yes explore Universal memory yes so Shanti

saying experiment and evolve very good yes so knowledge is another um you can say function which you can be

taken out there in the guru Lok and free from all the distractions that this kind

of world offers you you can progress there very fast if that is saying healing and progress yes healing why why

healing you see because even the dead people are taken there if you died from something you know because of something

which was not so good then it is almost guaranteed that the next birth will be

not so good so what do they do these people you know hopefully your Guru

himself will come and pick you but you need to be somebody important to be the effect to be served like that but there

are helpers yes there are volunteers who will pick these dead people and specifically from the path that they are

following the tradition and the path not random people from the street no we don't pick them they will say like this

so anybody who has done some kind of referred in Walking on any kind of spiritual path they are pigged if they

die suddenly your something bad happens and they are taken to that world then

they recover there kind of rebirth they get a little bit of

time to decide what to do in the next birth the biggest actually function of the

guru Lok is to prevent the rebirth let us say if you have a desire to drive a

new shiny car you know I am giving just very random simple example and your causal body says yes sure go ahead back

into the human world that death world this is called the death World Earth and

you come here and you work for 20 years 30 years you get the car you drive around and so on and it amounts to

nothing but you have wasted a whole lifetime for that what the guru can do is you know pick you up just after you

die and can sense that you have this desire okay he can immediately transport you into part of his World park where

you can drive 20 cars at the same time and in one day you are over it is done

so you your one birth is saved so this concept is not new even in

newbie tantric is taught how to create yes you won't be able to create the whole world right now but you will be

able to create a room isn't it it's possible this this kind of Worlds they are

artificial you can say shelters only for Seekers nobody else can go there and

what kind of seekers those who are favorite of their gurus and who is your who is the favorite of the guru those

who want to progress isn't it that is all that is the criteria you don't want

to progress you just want to listen to the stories no entry in the guru world

but you are sweating you're working hard you are even giving away like you are serving then you become the favorite of

the guru and obviously you get free pass in the guru world

and not only that he will teach you how to create your own so that you can do the same thing not only gurus every

deity has their own world who are these deities who are these Devas they are humans only they were humans they

progressed so that is why I said you will also do it nothing new we all are

going to do it okay siddhan is saying Thomas said that people can come there after death yes

yes that is the whole purpose of this thing you see you can go there right now also without dying but you will be sent

back you can go there as a tourist JS is asking are we talking about projections

or there's something else to these worlds they are a world in themselves just like your world vikas is asking

there seems to be a minor disagreement between the two the Tom's philosophy is

not really non-dual philosophy that is why not minor there is a major difference the arm is mostly on the

experience side although he holds the Consciousness as the fundamental and so on you see but that is where he leaves

the non-dual philosophy and he's more into the local side now that is why he's doing experiments setting up the worlds

and teaching you remote viewing and healing and so on you see and that is also very useful but yes the other

fellows will disagree at some point there because he has his own Theory

so it is saying isn't all the Affliction of the Mind there because it is devoid

of pure love it totally depends on what do you mean by pure love you see you and me are when this is pure love isn't it

so if somebody is devoid of this thing that means they are devoid of this knowledge that we are all one and yes

the ignorance is an Affliction in itself actually it is the biggest Affliction so

if you interpret this question like this yes everybody is Afflicted because they

don't know who they are now if you take the meaning of the love

as the emotion and the need you know the social need the emotional need and the

intellectual need and the physical need that kind of love then yes now you can

you have entered the psycho psychology again yes lack of Love causes lots of

afflictions you can get the money yes you can get the position in the society you can get

your objects clothes and jewelry but you cannot get the love of the other that is

the problem in this world and that gives rise to this need and that causes many

many distortions in the mind so Ordinary People are afflicted yes but

even Seekers are afflicted by this thing and no matter how how much I tell them that look you are the love you are the

one in everyone no no they don't understand because you know the mind has the need not the

experiencer the experiencer has no need at all you see it is free from desires

and all these activities mind has this need and if just like any other need if this is not fulfilled or this is

suppressed or worse case they get the hate instead of love in

many cases are there where people are hated bitterly and they become like mad the crazy people afflicted

so why is this desire most important you know compared to all other desires this

is fundamental there are three fundamental desires the

security growth and reproduction these things these three if nobody loves you

what will be your security zero yes love is needed growth means feeding is it

food shelter if nobody loves you not even your mother is it possible no

reproduction I need not say it so what is the most important need now yes to be

loved and what is the most lacking thing in this world love the result is everybody's crazy

who is who is free from all these things the one who knows his true nature I am

love and so I can only give it I am the source not the sink I Am The Giver not

the receiver those who know these things they are free from all afflictions instantly they

become free because not now you're not begging for your love you're not

actually begging for your security or your food or your reproduction that is

all taken care of because you are not all that which this Mind Body does and instantly this burden is dropped this

need is gone then you see use you realize that I am

the source of the love because I am the one in everyone and so the fountain Sprouts from you instead of you becoming

the drain where sometimes few drops they're drained you become the Fountain of love

and you start giving instead of asking demanding and that makes the Mind healthier

so very good question by sweetie so those who like one line Solutions the

solution is to give not to take if you are doing the give and take take

and take only that is selfishness not love as soon as I see a dependent

relation it means a bond between two people whether either they're forced to live together or they are you know

emotionally bound so much dependent on each other I can immediately see the

lack of Love there because it means total Independence Freedom not bondage

so highly demanding people highly possessive people or those who like relations of all kinds and so on these

people they lack love most and you can see their behavior is totally Afflicted not normal those who are helplessly

dependent on each other they both lack love and they're both demanding that's why they never get it then their

businessmen kind of people you do this much for me I'll do this much for you plus free gift

this is the most hopeless condition in this society and the biggest example of

that is the marriage a marriage is a sure sign of lack of love somebody who's full of love will never

marry anybody so you see this Path of Knowledge it turns everything upside down and if you

tell these things to Ordinary People they will think you are crazy yes they are crazy and those who you know they

are standing upside down and those who are standing right side up they'll look like upside down that is the issue with

this society today so as you grow in your spiritual paths

as you travel you become less and less social that is the side effect you won't be able to talk to anybody you won't be

able to sit with anybody it does not mean that you don't love it you know Nick you cannot tolerate that thing when

you see this company of seekers then you seek the company of the guru because only the guru understands you nobody

else and then you go in the Solitude because nobody wants anything if you

want to give they will start exploiting you that is the problem in the society

so the situation is almost impossible to cure in the only way is to grow out of

it you need to evolve out of this society and then service is the best expression of the love and best Services

serving the knowledge you can give money you can give food you can give anything

you want that you have but that is considered as the inferior kind of service the Superior Services serving

knowledge otherwise what do you do is you create an army of Beggars demanding

people exploiting people I mean the people start exploiting you because you are selflessly giving but if you serve

knowledge it's completely safe if they take advantage of you they will become more knowledgeable that is the good

thing and now you can connect the dots here also what are we doing actually whatever

we are doing is simply love there is nothing else here going on as soon as you recognize that the other is me the

only thing you can do is service so it should start with self-service first you should serve whatever you

think is me and obviously the witness does not require anything so you start with something which is closest to the

witness which is your mind you serve it you know make it healthy wealthy Rich

intelligent then you serve the body because you know that is the vehicle then you serve the society other people

because this boy needs to live with these people we are social animals and then you serve the environment because

without it nothing will survive now you come to know the importance of

service why it is so important in the spiritual field pratib is saying today is love day it is

every day's love day are we not doing this every day pradeep

is also doing the same thing pratik is saying I love is enough you comes later if you is not there isn't it you is also

me so I love always I it is selfish which is totally selfish

I think you have said modern temples are not as powerful as the ancient ones

do you think what satguru's building is authentic like the old temples Temple

what can I tell is you know only the words that I heard from his own mouth and some devotees you can call them

devotees but they are practitioners they are The Seekers so if you believe him yes this has the

power this is the authentic one and how will you come to know this thing okay pratif has the testimony many people

have told me that yes this is authentic and you know they don't know much about you know that thing how many chakras

they they could perceive and so on Guru says it is consecrated up to the

six chakras and so on who knows how he did that but if you want to experience you know

not experience experiment if you want to experiment what the deities look like how the fit like what was the effect of

the deities that were consecuted consecrated for spiritual growth etc etc then your best experiment is

this the handling a temple created by satguru and they I know there are some more but

they're top secret I don't know the location I don't know their location I don't know who made them because they're

private just like your private swimming pool you don't allow others to swim in your

private swimming pool they don't allow others to practice in their own temples which they have consecrated so here's

the this is the public one this is the first one that is public in recent time

experiment inside then you will know what's there in the handling and Devi Temple and he's saying other than you I

cannot talk that stuff is so rare yes it's rare even the experiences that you

get there you won't have any language to express them because I know the

experiences of um the worshipers of Devi he created I mean he created it baby also not only

this lingam and he's selling the Devi that is being sold like an object but

that's okay you know that is the local path link wherever yes you're right and people have told me the experiences

they had with this baby which was made by produced by sad group

and sometimes they cannot tell what what happens there but I know what it is doing I know what satguru is doing I

know what this handling a temple is doing but that should not be told in public

yes but this is right people will get scared if we talk openly and then you will need to face sadhguru

some someday you see then what will you do where are you going to run so it is our duty to keep the vocal Secret

but you can understand a few things about these things that you see the deities were created by humans not the

other way they were created for our service what is happening humans are serving these things it is like after

let us say 3000 years people will set up a temple of Google and they will start worshiping Google and then somebody will

tell them look this was created using this technology and it was a search engine for your service and probably

they will kill you because it is their religion now Google religion

so this has happened and sadhguru is trying to reverse it there is knowledge

there is technology to create things like this it is lost so this is this my

interpretation is based totally on whatever he says because who else can say about these things who knows about

these things apart from satguru hardly anybody those who do no they do not talk

you need to go and experience it that is my recommendation if nothing happens there then it is nothing useless or you

can say beautiful thing to behold but but if you are sensitive

then it will speed up the spiritual growth Graham is saying I feel like even little

statues of deity I've bought on the street have power if I treat them with respect like indeed yes you can create

all those things you see simply by your intention the magic is within you not in the State shoes

so here we are going to end our satsang thank you everybody for attending

today's satsang and rest of the questions if any will take in the next one