PEOS 200 : Contradiction, Questions, Illusion, Sacred Place, Chakras, Awareness, Powers

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hello and welcome to Pure experiences online satsang this satsang is an

opportunity for everybody to meet and discuss the spiritual matters you can ask your questions and get your doubts

cleared so all the questions are most welcome Graham is asking contradictory answers

are given to the same questions in different such things what causes you to choose one answer versus another is it

based on the need of the Seeker yes it is based on the need of the Seeker and whatever can make that secret progress

is told secondly if I don't know where that Seeker is then something general is

given some general answer is given which can be twisted in any direction so usually I try to find out what that

person wants by asking questions instead of giving answers

the best thing is to do is to ask questions what do they want why are they

in the program or in the satsang and so on and then after suggesting a proper path propraction then a suitable answer

is given whatever he was asking so the intention is always progress of

the Seeker even if the answer is a complete lie it is only for the good of

the Seeker there is a question by vikas between these two statements which one would be

more accurate I feel it's the second one currently there are 30 people on this call sharing a carbon waking state

currently there are 30 waking States appearing in shared awareness it is all

play of words so the words are not that important your knowledge is important you can express it in any word any kinds

of words so both are correct because we can see people who are in

waking State and we can see that the people are actually Illusions part of

the dream so it is simply experience that is appearing

so there can be multiple viewpoints it's not a big problem in the ultimate Viewpoint is that there is nothing

really there is only emptiness which is apparent

so like he was asking why the answers change and we know that anything that

changes is false so answers are changing they are all false actually no answer is

true and no interpretation is true if you use words to express your knowledge

it will be always false so the true teaching is silence

but since nobody understands it we need to speak so that is why I say Guru

always lies never answers or the answer is such that the there remains only

silence there remains nothing to think or there is no feeling that I got the answer nobody gets the answer here the

question is destroyed this is The Path of Knowledge where we start with lies and we end in silence

and knowing our agnostic position you will never know anything whatever you

know will be removed whether it is true or false doesn't matter because ultimately it's all false

everybody knows that the questions appear out of ignorance and if the answer is given that is also ignorance

but since the Seeker cannot comprehend the silence some answer is given that

our answer is always such that it makes the secret progress towards the silence

that is why on other paths which are because The Path of Knowledge is very logical so the Seeker is expecting a

very very logical precise answer in exactly that is given but in on other paths The Seekers are not even allowed

to ask questions because it is already realized that these questions and answers they simply delay their silence

so if the questions keep coming even after giving the knowledge I can immediately see that the state of

silence or awareness or Bliss whatever you want to call it is not there and and

then some drastic answers are given sometimes which is simply signal to the

Seeker that is stop thinking stop asking be what you are if you are still asking

it means what you don't know what you are especially if the questions are related

to basic knowledge there can be practical questions this different matter so even after finishing the

program even after doing a lot of practice if there remains these questions where and the essence is

confused then I become worried that means so much hard work is wasted so on

The Path of Knowledge we are putting more emphasis on Bliss and silence lesson questions and answers so just

like the questions are total useless word soup answers are also same

so there is a period during which the Seeker will be kind of unstable but it

should not last for more than three or four months that is why we have one month

verification period here where the Seeker is allowed to oscillate between the path and leaving the path you know

joining the path or leaving the path because the hearing has happened the truth has been heard Now find out you

were given one month one month is very long time actually it should take one hour to find out

whether what was said it was true or not actually as soon as you listen to

something on The Path of Knowledge it should be crystal clear that yes this is true or this is not true there should

not be any doubts why are there doubts because there are gaps in knowledge one

thing was heard the other thing was not heard but the first thing was forgotten the second thing is more juicy so these

things keep happening so I've given one month's time you can remain uncertain for that time and then you need to

choose the path or you need to reject the path that is why the instruction is so clear straight forward that if you

cannot verify anything here just leave the whole Path of Knowledge

so I know some people are still uncertain and they say okay I verified everything some people tell me that when

I listen to you everything is crystal clear but when I am lost in my own thoughts then everything becomes muddy

and that is simply the lack of awareness it is not that the teachings were unverified it is simply that the person

forgets completely because it's saying that I think it's

the unbelievability of this non-dual reality that is that what's causes is

what causes me to keep on confirming this absolute truth even though technically I have no questions I don't

feel like not asking questions some level there is utter reverence speechlessness now so it is not logical

to say that unbelievable absolute truth because if it is absolute truth for you

then the disbelief will not be there it simply means that you heard it but

you don't know whether it is true or not that is why there is a disbelief but probably you mean the positive kind of disbelief I can't believe that this is

the truth and that also should not cause any questions yes it can cause poems

songs music writing that is the output yes if not silence then something will

be there otherwise if the truth has been realized then there is absolutely no

doubt otherwise we don't call it realization we simply call it listening you heard

something that's all so how to verify how to remove the disbelief or even the

surprise it's not surprising the surprise is that I've considered the

truth to be to be something else that is the surprise so how to remove this verification spend

at least one month verifying the teachings at all the levels each and

everything there the guru can help yes the job of the guru is to remove the doubts because teachings are available

everywhere you see anybody can go and read the teachings it's two lines or three lines only but yes Guru is needed

to remove the doubts otherwise nothing is understood it is not realized and then it will become ordinary it is

like you are a man and for five minutes you assume that you are a woman for

whole of your life you are a man no problem at all and for the rest of your life after this five minute you will be

mad you won't be a woman for that five minutes only it was assumed that I am a

woman so which condition is strange that I was a man and will remain a man and

even while I was assuming that I was a woman I was mistaken I was a man even

then so the real surprise is that there is ignorance this is the real surprise that

the person has assumed himself to be a woman as soon as that is removed everything should return to normal oh

yes I was always the experiencer that is ordinary the extraordinary is that

believing something else so I have never seen any advanced

Seekers who are even surprised by this the surprises for other things like how

could I forget this is surprise why was there Darkness if it is so simple why

nobody told me these are the questions and some people laugh when they know who they are and they are not laughing

because you know finally they understood something they are laughing at their own stupidity and how is it possible that

for so many lifetimes I fooled myself into thinking that I am some kind of experience they are laughing at

themselves so their knowledge is not new yes the

ignorance is new the knowledge is simple straightforward no bells and whistles the ignorance is colorful complicated

and needs a lot of tricks to keep the organism in ignorance the Maya does

everything possible to keep it in ignorance and the guru takes only one minute to break it

look at the illusion the Maya what it is not doing to keep us in illusion to keep

us in ignorance what is Guru doing to bring you out of the ignorance simply tells you now the most interesting thing

is even after telling the person the person wants to remain in ignorance this I find very surprising because it

did not happen to me as soon as I was told look contemplate on this thing Who

You Are I had no thoughts about it but probably I need to go back in ignorance now probably I need to take this Guru to

the police station and do an interrogation of some kind or to ask for

more evidence and all it was crystal clear and it was crystal clear this is the end

of ignorance and I did not even laugh because the stupidity was too high to

even laugh at it but there was a relaxation okay finally it's over now whatever I was searching I was seeking

finally it's done so there was a little bit of relaxing laziness that's all no

questions realizing sometimes when I come to something I feel totally opposite why am

I not asking questions am I not progressing no no we have discussed this topic in many

times that and the questions are not asked in only two cases either there is

complete ignorance or there is complete knowledge when the person is in between then the questions are asked

so we encourage questioning from those who are in complete ignorance we ask

them to get the evidence question everything do not believe it blindly and so on and those who are in knowledge we

ask them to be in silence now in Graham is saying how can we spend time with you

if you don't ask silly questions I don't really need to ask most of the time but I don't want such thing to end like to

hear your thoughts it is best to let others ask the questions isn't it so but I don't see any problem in asking

questions because is saying intellectually I haven't had any questions for three

years but the more the understanding permits on the level of body and mind the questions I just to confirm again

and again and what feels like that are impossibility so it's not a big problem the big

problem is if it if the introspection is not done if there is questioning only and there is no introspection or

whatever we call as contemplation so I have seen because I can talk from my own

experience but the introspection also takes only one day this path is called

direct for very good reason it does not take time nothing takes time here

so I'm not saying nobody should ask questions yes but the needful must be done before that that which is necessary

must be done pratib is saying a heart pan example yes it does not the heart

pan is a direct path isn't it and that is a very good metaphor for direct path how many times do you need to touch it

realizing questions concerning Maya and illusion is most interesting to hear in satsang obviously the truth is really

two words nothing interesting there I mean the illusion is the most interesting thing is what else is there

there is only illusion so it is the most interesting and the interesting thing is you will

not get any good answers on the illusion also on the topic of Illusion it is

again false answers not only that you see there is no hope of getting any true answer and not only that there is no end

there is no silence here so now this answers the puzzle that you

know the Advent Masters rishis even when they were so intelligent bright extraordinary people

they had so much knowledge but they left the illusion as it is saying that it is illusion don't worry about it

they could have written the whole library on illusion they had so much to say but they said nothing and the reason

is very clear that endless and meaningless also just like she said only

entertainment the purpose of the illusion is entertainment play and its study is also entertainment and its

discussion is also entertainment the only danger here is that because it

is so interesting you will ignore the truth and that is why it is discouraged on The Path of Knowledge if I am not

happy with the progress of the that Seeker then even the questions related to illusion are not answered you must

have observed this thing one fellow asked me very very strange questions on illusion and I give give him extremely

detailed explanation mind-blowing explanation and somebody comes and asked

me something simple also and I don't tell him anything my simple advice is you know concentrate on your program why

because ignoring the truth there is a danger of getting trapped in the illusion

because studying the illusion does not give you knowledge this is the old people the ancient people they

understood very clearly it simply distracts you from the truth and if the Seeker has not already taken the truth

or not already realized the truth then it is very dangerous to talk about

illusion then the danger is that the Seeker will assume that this is the knowledge it is endless it is

mesmerizing it is complicated actually that is what has happened because in your schools only illusion

start have you noticed endless amount of it so all of them think that this is knowledge this is this is a big problem

who needs to know the illusion who wants to do something with it with it either

desire fulfillment or knowledge dissemination using it for good purpose

something otherwise those who want to know the illusion they will be completely

distracted we say they are not on the path now so if it is not helping in some way there is no need to know anything

there will nothing will be known actually so the explanation of the illusion is also illusion

usually I give the example of movies and so on you see you can watch a movie and

you can explain everything in a lot of detail what happened there how it happened how does the physics of Star

Trek Works how they launched weapons and what was the political issue there and you know what was the truth in that

movie who was good who was not endlessly you can discuss these things but you see the whole movie is an illusion so this

endless discussion was completely meaningless and those who have no idea that this was

a movie they will be harmed by this it will be harmful for them so that is why my answers keep changing depending on

who is asking now the problem is if you don't answer it you know people lose interest at least you need to keep keep

it little bit interesting so that they keep doing the program or keep destroying their ignorance if there is

any in ideal case you hear it and you are

done with it then you do whatever you want play in the illusion no problem at all even if you forget no problem

knowledge goes nowhere only the attention is shifted which is which is what you call forgetting

no I need to be very careful who is getting the knowledge of the illusion there's nothing bad in that as long as

you understand that it is entertainment no problem at all Vandana is asking please tell us your

view about the effect of latitude and longitude and body mind and context of doing any kind type of sadhna actually

on Path of Knowledge there should not be any effect of anything at all because it is based on intellect what is the effect

of the place on the body mind is on the lower layers not on intellect if the

place or the coordinates are affecting your intellects something is really wrong isn't it these the places they

affect the energies or whatever we call as the brand my Kush The Prana

is affected by the place so that must be everybody's experience

some places feel very bad some places feel very good and I don't know about the details of it

actually what places on Earth are good for your training but any place is good

in any silent place and clean place is good enough for Path of Knowledge because the higher layers are not

affected by the lower energies but the lower are affected yes not only the coordinate even if there is

a little bit of heat pollution noise you know these things they affect your practice so there are special places

where if you do some kind of practice prescribed in the path of energy not on

Path of Knowledge some other paths that will that can be beneficial and they have found that wherever there are Falls

in Earth by Fall time in cracks below the Earth big cracks those places are

good for your energetic progress and usually wherever there are Falls

there are mountains because the ground folds there now you understand the

importance of Himalayan yogis Himalayan the monasteries whatever temples and

even the full Mountain was sometimes said to be you know sacred Mountain like the kailash mountain and so on the

Tibetan area is whole of it it will be treated as sacred

because those who did these kind of practices they noticed little bit of

change little bit of benefit but on the power of knowledge no nothing affects the Seeker nothing at

all and similarly there are bad places where you should not sit while practicing and

they will even tell you lots of detail like what direction to face while doing

this kind of practice what time is good the Ed and pingle activity so it is best

to you know join a good tradition here because even the gurus don't know

everything is so much so the whole tradition keeps the knowledge you should join the tradition and then follow the

specific orders a Specific Instructions if they tell you to sit on the top of a

mountain or something like this or in a cave below the ground underground your

underground Chambers in your house and so on then you should not doubt anything

you see they are doing this since many thousand years they know what they're doing hopefully and anyway there is no

harm if you do that it's not harmful the only thing is that you will not benefit from it If It Isn't false you won't

benefit from it so very simple the lower layers are

integrated into environment and that is why the Seeker must take some precautions while doing these practices

and we don't deal with the lower layers not much they should be healthy active and okay that's all we need

now if you face East you will get the same knowledge I am Brahman you face

wave West same you face down exactly same you are the exact same Brahman this

may not be possible when you are doing something with Kundalini or something like this now is it totally necessary

that I should sit in a prescribed Place consecrated place or something like this no no you will still be successful but

what happens is The Seekers on this path they exploit even this tiniest thing if

they can like those who are poor they will try to save even one rupee if they can they will walk to home instead of

taking a taxi because you know save hundred rupees today so the Seekers are like this actually when it comes to

energetic practices they will not hesitate in taking even the tiniest of precaution if it helps in their practice

they will do it and this kind of you see questioning attitude is not found they're very

religious people it must be done yes it must be done then I don't know why I'm doing no problem it must be done they do

it because at least they know one thing that immediately you may not see any effects the energy body or whatever body

they have that needs to be prepared so much that needs to be sensitized so much

that one day you will notice the changes directly so wherever these Natural Energy points

were not found they made artificial centers they are called temples

the temple is not some somewhere you go and sing a song and demand your desires

to be fulfilled no it's completely corrupted these days they are specific places for Seekers only one Temple will

be only for women one Temple will be only for men why is that the bodies are different is it

because it's saying satguru talks about opening of 112 chakras in the body being

equivalent to the street of Shiva would you be able to throw some light on it

how it correlates with you okay it has no relation with pure care obviously you are the Shiva you are you are it already

now the numbers don't matter here the chakras means layers and yes they need

to functioning opening means functioning closing means this function they will

never stop functioning actually so closed means nothing is really happening nothing good is happening

there so activity inactivity charging discharging like this they use any words

words are meaningless the numbers are meaningless and the state of Shiva instead of this completely meaningless

you are already so the words are simply instruments to

convey something and what they are saying is that all these layers must be pure purified and only then this

knowledge appears the body should be fit your energy should be pleasant your

emotion should be positive your intellect should be sharp now all the chakras are open in their language no

blockages now the guru simply needs to tell you our Shiva and it is done

the whole fight is to clear all these blockages and purify these things that is the whole fight so on The Path of

Knowledge we assume that everything is functioning well because this is the final if you come here to get the knowledge it is simply assume that you

have the purified layers and that is why there is no practice here

it is assumed that you have done all the all the required practices that were told by the gurus before this path

before you took this path and those who are prepared like this they take five minutes to realize what

happened and because the purification is so much nothing odd happens this is the

advantage won't go crazy won't start crying who won't leave the family or job

nothing unusual oh this was so simple yes this is so

simple back to daily routine why is there so much ornamentation bells

and whistles smokes and mirrors impurities are too many isn't it too much impurity impurity wear for any

average secret to Grass what is it so the intellect is not functioning Guru knows this in every such thing there is

a story why because the intellect knows only you know can be focused only on a story nothing else will appeal that

thing that person nothing else produces any kind of progress there story and in

the story is woven some kind of teaching and the teaching is mostly about purification of this or purification of

that conduct your life like this conduct your life that and yes there will be Monkey King and there will be demons and

there will Warriors who knows what because the intellect was only this much and hopefully they follow it

or did he do that the hero did this to get to this yes you should also do this

okay I'll do that and the result is purification why there are no stories on Path of Knowledge now you understand why

only two or three lines are written in any text like if you read the abdud Gita if you take only the essential from it

it is hardly four or five lines and the same thing is repeated in the whole song

so yes purification is a big problem otherwise you are what you are so simple and straight no glorification is needed

at all the more impurity there is the more glorification there will be

more stories there will be more Superstition and surprisingly more

extraordinary experiences will be there because the impurities are reacting with the purification process

and they produce some kind of experiences and people think I'm progressing I am spiritual now because I

saw something strange and that is stupidity because it's their impurity only

so when people are on the fourth step of the program and they start reporting extraordinary

experiences very strange cases very very strange events I immediately become

worried because sure sign of presence of impurities

but I don't tell them because you see they can get affected by it so what do

we say oh yes you're progressing now do this you know some kind of purification

is prescribed did that thing stop strangeness stop and if this is yes okay

now you can continue abiding not stopped leave the path because this is not going

to produce anything Madness only so sometimes I don't get any reports and all then I come to know probably

everything is okay probably there is nothing interesting to report how many times can you write you

know I am in place and I'm doing well and I'm doing whatever is immediate for the life you cannot write it for 12

weeks so it's perfectly okay if you give me one report that the three months were

like boring useless months of no practice perfectly okay that means

perfectly okay this is how it is this is the reality the Brahman is the most ordinary

everyday experience nothing more needs to happen whole and complete already

I said experience because you know there's no other good word here to put but I get colorful reports every two

days then even I don't know what to do really so most of the time they are

asked to stop the practice that is the last thing we do because the impurities are so much even if there is knowledge

the lower stuff is still not pure enough and doing the practices in this state

will cause damage but outwardly we don't make a big deal

of it because I know one more thing that if the persist there is some problem but

if they come and go these strange experiences if they appear and then disappear then it's normal because the

knowledge itself causes some kind of purification it is expected that there will be little

bit of activity of strangeness there will be a little bit of extraordinary

experiences and when you get the awareness in dreams and the projected

States and all yes they are obviously strange experiences but they should

become normal after a while nothing strange about it you see the strange is

that you don't know anything except the waking State this is really strange how

is that possible what kind of crime you committed that this knowledge was taken

from you otherwise the extraordinaries disguised as the ordinary the extraordinary is happening in the

ordinary there is an existence there is an experiencer and there is very very

strange colorful illusory experience this thing is mind-blowing this thing is

extraordinary that is disguised as your ordinary life and when you go searching for the

colorful experiences to find out something at all which is so called

spiritual and those who find we know there are impurities they are deliberate

in thinking that I am progressing and the guru is not really bothered by this whether they're progressing or not his

concern is impurities sometimes you don't even care too much about it because because sometimes it is known

that this fellow will take at least four lifetimes to clear it

so just like I said the spiritual progress or the time is measured in

lifetimes in the spiritual Fields just like in astronomy it is light years so

what is the meaning of light and ears nobody will be able to even imagine that this is the unit of distance but they

know what it is and same way we measure the progress in lifetimes

so we don't even worry that you say it needs to be done today one week one

month so the guru says let it happen in whatever time it happens you see let's take whatever time it takes because the

nature knows what to do we don't know really the nature is doing the purification also

because you're saying so what I understand is that the chakras knowledge

is given to students who are presumed to have little to no knowledge and spirituality

it totally depends on what path they are we should discriminate the students based on their paths so if they are on

that path where it requires that knowledge they will be given if you are not on that path then this as good as

non-existent it does not exist it's not even needed so that is why there is

nothing about chakras and all in on The Path of Knowledge so totally depends on the path what is told depends on what

needs to be what is helpful in their progress what is needed

if you get the whole knowledge do do you really need any information about these imaginary things because we know their

models only which means imaginary so the whole purpose is to go to the knowledge to get the knowledge and if you get it

initially through the direct path then every other path is redundant it's not

necessary now not need purpose is already solved you already reached the

destination knowing yourself is the Final Destination then you don't need

anything after that pushkar is asking when we talk about being in Awareness I've noticed how not

too much description is provided on the street is it because one has to find it on their own it would be nice to have

some physiological experiential description to understand if I am in the

right state so can you tell me what is being in Awareness what is the meaning of awareness I'm asking because

everybody has different meanings of the same word so I'm asking pushkar okay

he's saying we are already awareness it isn't changing okay so the definition is

different that is why you will you will never find it because in these talks at

least in this system awareness means the knowledge of the self and the unchanging aspect of the existence is called the

experiencer or the witness not awareness so that is why you did not find anything

about it now why did that happen because you see the knowledge must be taken

systematically step by step we cannot jump in the end that means nothing will

be learned so this is the end of The Path of Knowledge staying in Awareness so you are saying we are already

awareness then is there a question of being in Awareness how to be in awareness

if you already know that I am awareness and changing awareness what do you need to do to be the awareness if the

ornament knows that it is gold what do what does it need to do to be the gold

if you are awareness and you are unchanging will there be any physiological description of it because

physiological means the body Crescent is given the definition yes that is the right definition but it's okay you know

people come from other um systems or traditions and they have different meaning so that is why you see

I made it my Habit to ask the definition and meaning before answering everybody has their own words

it is Everlasting recognition of the knowledge that I am the experiencer what is what is the Everlasting recognition

is it a state if it practice or are you saying awareness is the Everlasting recognition

what is the meaning of it I T because you already said that we are awareness that means our Essence is awareness and

changing Essence so what is this new thing now recognition of knowledge knowledge and recognition of knowledge

how are they different I am the experiencer this is knowledge

now what do you mean by recognition of knowledge I can understand up to this that I am the experiencer that is the

self-knowledge or self-realization what is the recognition abiding means

being in the knowledge not forgetting the knowledge that's all it means if

there any other description of it related to the body physiology psychology no we don't need any

I am the experiencer this remembering do we need any more description of it abiding okay the abiding is simply you

see not forgetting the whole life is spent in assuming that I am the body I

am the mind I am some other process some other experience and abiding is simply

not thinking like this anymore because now I have the knowledge what I am

so why is there no material on this the whole program is about this you see the

whole Path of Knowledge program talks about this only there is a whole step in the program which teaches you to remain

in Awareness to abide although you know those who touch the heart when they

don't need any program they don't need any practice so we don't really take it

seriously why is there Step so that I can see who

fails in Abiding and the one who failed is still ignorant

it is a trap so Corrections are made look you are not

in Awareness because you have this kind of doubt you have not realized this your language is impure and so on you see so

once that is done the awareness should come automatically you see it should be easier than breathing who am I how much

practice it took to recall this thing if you have the knowledge you see it should not take more than a second to remember

do I need to make 50 videos on this please remember

you see when the program started the version one it had no practice at all no

mention of these things then I started getting all these questions you see how to stay in this

kind of samadhi that kind of somebody you know then I had to research what is this why do people want to do do this

what is wrong with people I said you are Brahman you want to practice

amazing isn't it it indicates only one thing that no

knowledge happened there no knowledge happened let's go back to our male and female

metaphor for five minutes somehow you got this confusion that I am a female or I am a woman now somebody told you look

not wrong you're mistaken hallucination illusion Maya you are not a woman look

you are a man okay okay what practice do I need to remain man

something is wrong isn't it I always forget that I'm a man I always

think that I am a woman something is wrong really there is something some issue here

so the solution is not practice not more practice the solution is look you don't

know who you are not a woman no my mind is like this it can mean many things you

say either there is some mental issues there or otherwise a mentally healthy

person why will he keep thinking I am a woman I'm not Brahman why will they keep thinking like this

so it is an Open Secret that I don't practice anything sometimes I lie to people that I practice a lot just to

encourage them but really there is no practice on The Path of Knowledge nothing

I give practice only to keep these people engaged for a while till you know the sun rises in their heads the

darkness goes away take times nobody in in the ancient time

gave any practice not ADI shankaracharya not of Duty nobody gave us practices why is that and

how come there are so many practices nowadays he is very simple nobody has the

knowledge actually the actual knowledge is lacking so they try to get it through practice because you see that Yogi is

doing practice that meditator is doing practice that Kundalini fellow is doing practice in some kind of Himalayan

Mountain cave I also need to do something to become what I am and that

is simply indication of lack of Guru there is no guru you don't have any Guru you heard it from somewhere awareness

and these words and that words abiding in all that's all you heard the knowledge never happened and it never

happened because you don't have a guru so I'm asking pushkar who is your Guru

who gave you the systematic knowledge and initiation on The Path of Knowledge ganyog Mr pushkar because there is your

solution actually I can give you any practice you see random practice that's not the real solution is saying it's

some kind of remembrance that's most accurate as per my limited experience yes yes you're right remembrance is the

right word some even you know awareness is not that good but we took it borrowed it but the

remembrance is more accurate all you need to do is remember you are a man forget being a woman or if you are a

woman originally forget being a man so remember and nothing else needs to happen you see

my all addictions are same my my financial condition is same my wife is

same and my husband is same what is wrong with that even with perfection already in Brahman

no no I thought there will be some good effect of this spiritual thing you see yes the good effect is you lost your

ignorance there is no other good effect on The Path of Knowledge no but my mental disorders say my

physical body is same and that means you see and even the what is Path of Knowledge that is that much

is also not understood by that Seeker so the proper direction is shown you see

okay go and fix all these issues then you can come on Path of Knowledge this is the prescription here

to go on a systematic path yes yes that's what I was trying to say but you

see I can give you practice assuming totally that you know everything each and every word precisely and it is true

according to your own experience and but then you will waste three or four more years before you find out then nothing

is working because the root cause is not adopting the paths make it your own and then we

can talk about all this practice and I'll say if if it is really needed it will be given your own Guru will give it

to you vikas is saying can you please talk about ashta siddhi is

that metaphorical do people really can shrink down to Atomic levels yes

everything is possible in illusion then what is it that shrinks what is it that grows illusion only not people remember

there are no people whether you see are these people really small or are they

really big can somebody tell me is your size size of the body is it really small

or is it really big or is it perfectly okay can somebody tell me

people and Path of Knowledge they have all these answers and the answer is always such that you see the question

becomes meaningless what is your real size because as the answer yes can't be

said without comparisons in absolutes meaningless very nice very good see and

riddhi is saying everything is relative yes Graham has given his size

very good you see your size and the body Etc important for ladies not for

Spiritual Seeker if you compare yourself to an atom you are huge trillion times bigger and if

you compare yourself to a Galaxy less than zero don't even exist so what is

the meaning of the siddhis nothing really it is all an illusion

so he's asking whether they are true no no are they true no no not true nothing

is true here in the illusion and everything is possible here so it is not meaningful to say whether it really

happens or not it is more meaningful to say that do you want it to happen or not

tell me you want that to happen again I have already made you biggest

and the smallest in one sentence already done as soon as you said this is relative it is already done you have the

siddhi no do you really want to play in the illusion tell me

because yes everything can be done everything is possible and that is called the path of occult where these

people are playing you see when we say on The Path of Knowledge that there are infinite possibilities and then we don't

even bother to explore those possibilities it's completely meaningless we don't get anything by

doing that and and any intelligent person will find that yes I am the biggest and I am the smallest I am in

between why because every form is taken by the Brahman only they are all my form

so give up your ignorance you don't need siddhis interesting thing is when we give up our

ignorance we progress and then they said these happen they happen automatically

as a result of your progress are they real then no still illusion your

progress is also illusion the Brahman never progresses it does not

need to progress the illusion Pro the illusory figure progresses the illusory creature and whatever it gets as a

result of progress as a result of destruction of its own limitations it

thinks I am gaining something so anything is the creature is not really progressing the creature is on

the way to dissolution so you see everything is joke here everything is a joke if you understand it completely

this fellow is so happy that I am getting all the powers and all you see now the boundaries are breaking what it

is happening what is happening is it is disappearing the boundaries are broken now the perceived size of the body can

become anything and it is a reason to celebrate no the next step is nothing at

all the thing is going to become nothing infinite possible possibility again isn't it

so things are meaningful only if they are limited and small it is all very amusing you see

yes Shashank is saying I don't say anything Einstein says solid yes whatever Einstein said you see we are

saying this since thousands of years this the relativity is the law of Mind actually or you can say law of memory

that is found since ancient Egypt at least we are probably older than that so it's

already rediscovery to become better existence at least this

is what the illusion is you see when the seeker comes here and they say oh I want this siddhi that siddhi then we have no

other option to say that yes progress you will get everything this is a big lie

just like I said you know the guru lies all the time hardly any sentence is true so why is that said because he

understands nothing else except this progress but simply telling this fellow that you

look the progress is dissolution into nothingness and these siddhis are totally useless completely garbage and

that will stop his seeking actually that will stop his progress also so we never say like this we encourage the Seekers

to progress and we let them realize slowly what happened this is also Grace

this is also compassion of the guru to keep the Seeker under delusion is also

compassion otherwise we lose the Seeker forever or he will go somewhere else you see to

find to fulfill his desire so you won't get cities on The Path of Knowledge no no no you will get them you cannot

escape this thing as far as I know every creature will get them why because it is

simply breaking of barriers like if you run your car without maintenance for a long time what happens

the parts they start breaking and ultimately we keep running it obviously it won't run but if you leave it there

it will become dirt it will be rusted everything will rot down will be

dissolved in the dirt that is progress of the car same way this creature is progressing

is there okay okay I want the dissolution then you see is there a resolution according to me it's not

there it is recycled back if somebody comes and digs the ground and you know extracts the metals and so

on it makes a new car a makes a you can say jar or toilet out of it anything

useful for the Existence you inclusion is also illusion

the thing is all zero because nothing appeared these pool of memories they are

scattered and then they are they are they reappear as something else you see

it's so highly disappointing highly you can say discouraging the truth is so

bitter that is never given directly so yes sometimes you see the progress

and the progress is simply realization after realization that I was wrong here

I was wrong there I was wrong now also and whatever I think will be wrong in the future also this is all there is to

progress this is the story of your progress so that is why you know the devotee who

completely believes this Guru progresses very fast because he saved this kind of trouble of

you can say phase forms falling on their face again and again they are saved for by this blind belief in the guru

although it is discouraged you know you need to find out yourself how wrong I was you need to find it out yourself

what is right now right here is complete perfect excellent beautiful

now I call this progress actually the carelessness the meaninglessness the

aimlessness complete Freedom that you get by saying this is progress

there is no other progress and probably that is what is called the is nesting Buddhism although I don't

know the real meaning of it but the word is so beautiful this is it do we need to

do anything more than that is there any practice Beyond this do we need to practice being the is which means the

being the whole the existence it is simply being that which is right now see

how simple it is but in order the Mind likes complications actually I was told all these things

long ago probably I was told this thing many lifetimes ago but no it was

completely rejected this is my own story actually for for the ego or for the creature this

kind of statement or this kind of knowledge is completely useless it finds no advantage in this so what

did what does it do it slips back in the world world means the illusion and what

do we do about it nothing at all if somebody is trying to do something

about the creature again you see again there is ignorance even though momentary

if you cannot be situated in the truth is completely false so what is the

solution that we have found we turn the ego in service of knowledge in that way

it gets to remain in the world it gets meaning also of its life and it does

something useful which is marginally useful actually it gets this illusion that I am doing something good

and the culmination of this kind of philosophy is the guru field they know it is a big joke but they can

keep doing it because there is no other solution as far as I know everything

else will fail so the final destination for a Seeker is not dissolution not

becoming God God is not becoming the Buddha or whatever we call it is final

destination for any Seeker is to come back in the play back to the marketplace and if you do it through the service

then you get some kind of satisfaction otherwise it is completely meaningless

so this this happens naturally whether you like it or not you will spend 30 000

years in your own world meditating because you are the Brahman yes after 30

000 years you realize I wasted my time so

I've I've never found anything better than this the bodhisattva tendency is

your final destination you get to enjoy the Maya also the ego

will not complain the day we will be very happy you know oh he is engaging in my play he is playing the game of

liberating people from illusion and that is very very fascinating for the ma Devi

you see the Maya otherwise she has no opposition otherwise is unchallenged so she gets

something to keep her happy you know keep her engaged we get something everybody's happy nothing is actually

achieved Shashank is saying this is this is perfectly aligned as per experience and

intellect but then also sometimes with heart fearful thought arise what if I have become a psychopath of some kind

whole population is 180 degree from me

that is not really a bad thing remember from your point of view the this the

whole population is Psychopaths and we don't want to use this kind of word very strong word we say ignorant

you can just like you said relative isn't it it is who is saying who is insane is relative nobody is saying and

nobody is insane so a Seeker is insane from the point of view of ignorant person and the ignorant person is

hopelessly insane completely insane from the point of view of a Seeker so you

should enjoy all these fearful thoughts normally the statistics yes it can drift

to anything it hasn't it you can see it everywhere actually

I know somebody saw the picture of Indian trains in um before independence

something like this and there were less people inside the train and more people on the roof of the train all the time is

over but I'll finish this story the train was packed with people on the roof of the train now that is insane from

that person's point of view you wait for the Indians poor people at the time

colonized country it was perfectly normal that is how they could get from one place to another in

those days so who is crazy probably everybody

people think the Village People Are Crazy so ultimately nothing is established in illusion

like you say nothing can be established in the illusion now you understand why all the great

Masters that left the illusion alone why I say that when you know the Essential

Knowledge you should leave the program in first 10 minutes I say this of the program and during the program also I

keep saying everything is over now you can leave the program this is the reason so looks like time is over today I

thought there won't be any questions but ultimately you know everything turns out to be opposite hopefully everybody

enjoyed hopefully everybody got some insight and thank you everyone for

attending today's satsang I'll see you next time