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hello and welcome to Pure experiences online satsang this satsang is an
opportunity for everybody to meet and discuss the spiritual matters you can ask your questions and get your doubts
cleared so all the questions are most welcome Graham is asking contradictory answers
are given to the same questions in different such things what causes you to choose one answer versus another is it
based on the need of the Seeker yes it is based on the need of the Seeker and whatever can make that secret progress
is told secondly if I don't know where that Seeker is then something general is
given some general answer is given which can be twisted in any direction so usually I try to find out what that
person wants by asking questions instead of giving answers
the best thing is to do is to ask questions what do they want why are they
in the program or in the satsang and so on and then after suggesting a proper path propraction then a suitable answer
is given whatever he was asking so the intention is always progress of
the Seeker even if the answer is a complete lie it is only for the good of
the Seeker there is a question by vikas between these two statements which one would be
more accurate I feel it's the second one currently there are 30 people on this call sharing a carbon waking state
currently there are 30 waking States appearing in shared awareness it is all
play of words so the words are not that important your knowledge is important you can express it in any word any kinds
of words so both are correct because we can see people who are in
waking State and we can see that the people are actually Illusions part of
the dream so it is simply experience that is appearing
so there can be multiple viewpoints it's not a big problem in the ultimate Viewpoint is that there is nothing
really there is only emptiness which is apparent
so like he was asking why the answers change and we know that anything that
changes is false so answers are changing they are all false actually no answer is
true and no interpretation is true if you use words to express your knowledge
it will be always false so the true teaching is silence
but since nobody understands it we need to speak so that is why I say Guru
always lies never answers or the answer is such that the there remains only
silence there remains nothing to think or there is no feeling that I got the answer nobody gets the answer here the
question is destroyed this is The Path of Knowledge where we start with lies and we end in silence
and knowing our agnostic position you will never know anything whatever you
know will be removed whether it is true or false doesn't matter because ultimately it's all false
everybody knows that the questions appear out of ignorance and if the answer is given that is also ignorance
but since the Seeker cannot comprehend the silence some answer is given that
our answer is always such that it makes the secret progress towards the silence
that is why on other paths which are because The Path of Knowledge is very logical so the Seeker is expecting a
very very logical precise answer in exactly that is given but in on other paths The Seekers are not even allowed
to ask questions because it is already realized that these questions and answers they simply delay their silence
so if the questions keep coming even after giving the knowledge I can immediately see that the state of
silence or awareness or Bliss whatever you want to call it is not there and and
then some drastic answers are given sometimes which is simply signal to the
Seeker that is stop thinking stop asking be what you are if you are still asking
it means what you don't know what you are especially if the questions are related
to basic knowledge there can be practical questions this different matter so even after finishing the
program even after doing a lot of practice if there remains these questions where and the essence is
confused then I become worried that means so much hard work is wasted so on
The Path of Knowledge we are putting more emphasis on Bliss and silence lesson questions and answers so just
like the questions are total useless word soup answers are also same
so there is a period during which the Seeker will be kind of unstable but it
should not last for more than three or four months that is why we have one month
verification period here where the Seeker is allowed to oscillate between the path and leaving the path you know
joining the path or leaving the path because the hearing has happened the truth has been heard Now find out you
were given one month one month is very long time actually it should take one hour to find out
whether what was said it was true or not actually as soon as you listen to
something on The Path of Knowledge it should be crystal clear that yes this is true or this is not true there should
not be any doubts why are there doubts because there are gaps in knowledge one
thing was heard the other thing was not heard but the first thing was forgotten the second thing is more juicy so these
things keep happening so I've given one month's time you can remain uncertain for that time and then you need to
choose the path or you need to reject the path that is why the instruction is so clear straight forward that if you
cannot verify anything here just leave the whole Path of Knowledge
so I know some people are still uncertain and they say okay I verified everything some people tell me that when
I listen to you everything is crystal clear but when I am lost in my own thoughts then everything becomes muddy
and that is simply the lack of awareness it is not that the teachings were unverified it is simply that the person
forgets completely because it's saying that I think it's
the unbelievability of this non-dual reality that is that what's causes is
what causes me to keep on confirming this absolute truth even though technically I have no questions I don't
feel like not asking questions some level there is utter reverence speechlessness now so it is not logical
to say that unbelievable absolute truth because if it is absolute truth for you
then the disbelief will not be there it simply means that you heard it but
you don't know whether it is true or not that is why there is a disbelief but probably you mean the positive kind of disbelief I can't believe that this is
the truth and that also should not cause any questions yes it can cause poems
songs music writing that is the output yes if not silence then something will
be there otherwise if the truth has been realized then there is absolutely no
doubt otherwise we don't call it realization we simply call it listening you heard
something that's all so how to verify how to remove the disbelief or even the
surprise it's not surprising the surprise is that I've considered the
truth to be to be something else that is the surprise so how to remove this verification spend
at least one month verifying the teachings at all the levels each and
everything there the guru can help yes the job of the guru is to remove the doubts because teachings are available
everywhere you see anybody can go and read the teachings it's two lines or three lines only but yes Guru is needed
to remove the doubts otherwise nothing is understood it is not realized and then it will become ordinary it is
like you are a man and for five minutes you assume that you are a woman for
whole of your life you are a man no problem at all and for the rest of your life after this five minute you will be
mad you won't be a woman for that five minutes only it was assumed that I am a
woman so which condition is strange that I was a man and will remain a man and
even while I was assuming that I was a woman I was mistaken I was a man even
then so the real surprise is that there is ignorance this is the real surprise that
the person has assumed himself to be a woman as soon as that is removed everything should return to normal oh
yes I was always the experiencer that is ordinary the extraordinary is that
believing something else so I have never seen any advanced
Seekers who are even surprised by this the surprises for other things like how
could I forget this is surprise why was there Darkness if it is so simple why
nobody told me these are the questions and some people laugh when they know who they are and they are not laughing
because you know finally they understood something they are laughing at their own stupidity and how is it possible that
for so many lifetimes I fooled myself into thinking that I am some kind of experience they are laughing at
themselves so their knowledge is not new yes the
ignorance is new the knowledge is simple straightforward no bells and whistles the ignorance is colorful complicated
and needs a lot of tricks to keep the organism in ignorance the Maya does
everything possible to keep it in ignorance and the guru takes only one minute to break it
look at the illusion the Maya what it is not doing to keep us in illusion to keep
us in ignorance what is Guru doing to bring you out of the ignorance simply tells you now the most interesting thing
is even after telling the person the person wants to remain in ignorance this I find very surprising because it
did not happen to me as soon as I was told look contemplate on this thing Who
You Are I had no thoughts about it but probably I need to go back in ignorance now probably I need to take this Guru to
the police station and do an interrogation of some kind or to ask for
more evidence and all it was crystal clear and it was crystal clear this is the end
of ignorance and I did not even laugh because the stupidity was too high to
even laugh at it but there was a relaxation okay finally it's over now whatever I was searching I was seeking
finally it's done so there was a little bit of relaxing laziness that's all no
questions realizing sometimes when I come to something I feel totally opposite why am
I not asking questions am I not progressing no no we have discussed this topic in many
times that and the questions are not asked in only two cases either there is
complete ignorance or there is complete knowledge when the person is in between then the questions are asked
so we encourage questioning from those who are in complete ignorance we ask
them to get the evidence question everything do not believe it blindly and so on and those who are in knowledge we
ask them to be in silence now in Graham is saying how can we spend time with you
if you don't ask silly questions I don't really need to ask most of the time but I don't want such thing to end like to
hear your thoughts it is best to let others ask the questions isn't it so but I don't see any problem in asking
questions because is saying intellectually I haven't had any questions for three
years but the more the understanding permits on the level of body and mind the questions I just to confirm again
and again and what feels like that are impossibility so it's not a big problem the big
problem is if it if the introspection is not done if there is questioning only and there is no introspection or
whatever we call as contemplation so I have seen because I can talk from my own
experience but the introspection also takes only one day this path is called
direct for very good reason it does not take time nothing takes time here
so I'm not saying nobody should ask questions yes but the needful must be done before that that which is necessary
must be done pratib is saying a heart pan example yes it does not the heart
pan is a direct path isn't it and that is a very good metaphor for direct path how many times do you need to touch it
realizing questions concerning Maya and illusion is most interesting to hear in satsang obviously the truth is really
two words nothing interesting there I mean the illusion is the most interesting thing is what else is there
there is only illusion so it is the most interesting and the interesting thing is you will
not get any good answers on the illusion also on the topic of Illusion it is
again false answers not only that you see there is no hope of getting any true answer and not only that there is no end
there is no silence here so now this answers the puzzle that you
know the Advent Masters rishis even when they were so intelligent bright extraordinary people
they had so much knowledge but they left the illusion as it is saying that it is illusion don't worry about it
they could have written the whole library on illusion they had so much to say but they said nothing and the reason
is very clear that endless and meaningless also just like she said only
entertainment the purpose of the illusion is entertainment play and its study is also entertainment and its
discussion is also entertainment the only danger here is that because it
is so interesting you will ignore the truth and that is why it is discouraged on The Path of Knowledge if I am not
happy with the progress of the that Seeker then even the questions related to illusion are not answered you must
have observed this thing one fellow asked me very very strange questions on illusion and I give give him extremely
detailed explanation mind-blowing explanation and somebody comes and asked
me something simple also and I don't tell him anything my simple advice is you know concentrate on your program why
because ignoring the truth there is a danger of getting trapped in the illusion
because studying the illusion does not give you knowledge this is the old people the ancient people they
understood very clearly it simply distracts you from the truth and if the Seeker has not already taken the truth
or not already realized the truth then it is very dangerous to talk about
illusion then the danger is that the Seeker will assume that this is the knowledge it is endless it is
mesmerizing it is complicated actually that is what has happened because in your schools only illusion
start have you noticed endless amount of it so all of them think that this is knowledge this is this is a big problem
who needs to know the illusion who wants to do something with it with it either
desire fulfillment or knowledge dissemination using it for good purpose
something otherwise those who want to know the illusion they will be completely
distracted we say they are not on the path now so if it is not helping in some way there is no need to know anything
there will nothing will be known actually so the explanation of the illusion is also illusion
usually I give the example of movies and so on you see you can watch a movie and
you can explain everything in a lot of detail what happened there how it happened how does the physics of Star
Trek Works how they launched weapons and what was the political issue there and you know what was the truth in that
movie who was good who was not endlessly you can discuss these things but you see the whole movie is an illusion so this
endless discussion was completely meaningless and those who have no idea that this was
a movie they will be harmed by this it will be harmful for them so that is why my answers keep changing depending on
who is asking now the problem is if you don't answer it you know people lose interest at least you need to keep keep
it little bit interesting so that they keep doing the program or keep destroying their ignorance if there is
any in ideal case you hear it and you are
done with it then you do whatever you want play in the illusion no problem at all even if you forget no problem
knowledge goes nowhere only the attention is shifted which is which is what you call forgetting
no I need to be very careful who is getting the knowledge of the illusion there's nothing bad in that as long as
you understand that it is entertainment no problem at all Vandana is asking please tell us your
view about the effect of latitude and longitude and body mind and context of doing any kind type of sadhna actually
on Path of Knowledge there should not be any effect of anything at all because it is based on intellect what is the effect
of the place on the body mind is on the lower layers not on intellect if the
place or the coordinates are affecting your intellects something is really wrong isn't it these the places they
affect the energies or whatever we call as the brand my Kush The Prana
is affected by the place so that must be everybody's experience
some places feel very bad some places feel very good and I don't know about the details of it
actually what places on Earth are good for your training but any place is good
in any silent place and clean place is good enough for Path of Knowledge because the higher layers are not
affected by the lower energies but the lower are affected yes not only the coordinate even if there is
a little bit of heat pollution noise you know these things they affect your practice so there are special places
where if you do some kind of practice prescribed in the path of energy not on
Path of Knowledge some other paths that will that can be beneficial and they have found that wherever there are Falls
in Earth by Fall time in cracks below the Earth big cracks those places are
good for your energetic progress and usually wherever there are Falls
there are mountains because the ground folds there now you understand the
importance of Himalayan yogis Himalayan the monasteries whatever temples and
even the full Mountain was sometimes said to be you know sacred Mountain like the kailash mountain and so on the
Tibetan area is whole of it it will be treated as sacred
because those who did these kind of practices they noticed little bit of
change little bit of benefit but on the power of knowledge no nothing affects the Seeker nothing at
all and similarly there are bad places where you should not sit while practicing and
they will even tell you lots of detail like what direction to face while doing
this kind of practice what time is good the Ed and pingle activity so it is best
to you know join a good tradition here because even the gurus don't know
everything is so much so the whole tradition keeps the knowledge you should join the tradition and then follow the
specific orders a Specific Instructions if they tell you to sit on the top of a
mountain or something like this or in a cave below the ground underground your
underground Chambers in your house and so on then you should not doubt anything
you see they are doing this since many thousand years they know what they're doing hopefully and anyway there is no
harm if you do that it's not harmful the only thing is that you will not benefit from it If It Isn't false you won't
benefit from it so very simple the lower layers are
integrated into environment and that is why the Seeker must take some precautions while doing these practices
and we don't deal with the lower layers not much they should be healthy active and okay that's all we need
now if you face East you will get the same knowledge I am Brahman you face
wave West same you face down exactly same you are the exact same Brahman this
may not be possible when you are doing something with Kundalini or something like this now is it totally necessary
that I should sit in a prescribed Place consecrated place or something like this no no you will still be successful but
what happens is The Seekers on this path they exploit even this tiniest thing if
they can like those who are poor they will try to save even one rupee if they can they will walk to home instead of
taking a taxi because you know save hundred rupees today so the Seekers are like this actually when it comes to
energetic practices they will not hesitate in taking even the tiniest of precaution if it helps in their practice
they will do it and this kind of you see questioning attitude is not found they're very
religious people it must be done yes it must be done then I don't know why I'm doing no problem it must be done they do
it because at least they know one thing that immediately you may not see any effects the energy body or whatever body
they have that needs to be prepared so much that needs to be sensitized so much
that one day you will notice the changes directly so wherever these Natural Energy points
were not found they made artificial centers they are called temples
the temple is not some somewhere you go and sing a song and demand your desires
to be fulfilled no it's completely corrupted these days they are specific places for Seekers only one Temple will
be only for women one Temple will be only for men why is that the bodies are different is it
because it's saying satguru talks about opening of 112 chakras in the body being
equivalent to the street of Shiva would you be able to throw some light on it
how it correlates with you okay it has no relation with pure care obviously you are the Shiva you are you are it already
now the numbers don't matter here the chakras means layers and yes they need
to functioning opening means functioning closing means this function they will
never stop functioning actually so closed means nothing is really happening nothing good is happening
there so activity inactivity charging discharging like this they use any words
words are meaningless the numbers are meaningless and the state of Shiva instead of this completely meaningless
you are already so the words are simply instruments to
convey something and what they are saying is that all these layers must be pure purified and only then this
knowledge appears the body should be fit your energy should be pleasant your
emotion should be positive your intellect should be sharp now all the chakras are open in their language no
blockages now the guru simply needs to tell you our Shiva and it is done
the whole fight is to clear all these blockages and purify these things that is the whole fight so on The Path of
Knowledge we assume that everything is functioning well because this is the final if you come here to get the knowledge it is simply assume that you
have the purified layers and that is why there is no practice here
it is assumed that you have done all the all the required practices that were told by the gurus before this path
before you took this path and those who are prepared like this they take five minutes to realize what
happened and because the purification is so much nothing odd happens this is the
advantage won't go crazy won't start crying who won't leave the family or job
nothing unusual oh this was so simple yes this is so
simple back to daily routine why is there so much ornamentation bells
and whistles smokes and mirrors impurities are too many isn't it too much impurity impurity wear for any
average secret to Grass what is it so the intellect is not functioning Guru knows this in every such thing there is
a story why because the intellect knows only you know can be focused only on a story nothing else will appeal that
thing that person nothing else produces any kind of progress there story and in
the story is woven some kind of teaching and the teaching is mostly about purification of this or purification of
that conduct your life like this conduct your life that and yes there will be Monkey King and there will be demons and
there will Warriors who knows what because the intellect was only this much and hopefully they follow it
or did he do that the hero did this to get to this yes you should also do this
okay I'll do that and the result is purification why there are no stories on Path of Knowledge now you understand why
only two or three lines are written in any text like if you read the abdud Gita if you take only the essential from it
it is hardly four or five lines and the same thing is repeated in the whole song
so yes purification is a big problem otherwise you are what you are so simple and straight no glorification is needed
at all the more impurity there is the more glorification there will be
more stories there will be more Superstition and surprisingly more
extraordinary experiences will be there because the impurities are reacting with the purification process
and they produce some kind of experiences and people think I'm progressing I am spiritual now because I
saw something strange and that is stupidity because it's their impurity only
so when people are on the fourth step of the program and they start reporting extraordinary
experiences very strange cases very very strange events I immediately become
worried because sure sign of presence of impurities
but I don't tell them because you see they can get affected by it so what do
we say oh yes you're progressing now do this you know some kind of purification
is prescribed did that thing stop strangeness stop and if this is yes okay
now you can continue abiding not stopped leave the path because this is not going
to produce anything Madness only so sometimes I don't get any reports and all then I come to know probably
everything is okay probably there is nothing interesting to report how many times can you write you
know I am in place and I'm doing well and I'm doing whatever is immediate for the life you cannot write it for 12
weeks so it's perfectly okay if you give me one report that the three months were
like boring useless months of no practice perfectly okay that means
perfectly okay this is how it is this is the reality the Brahman is the most ordinary
everyday experience nothing more needs to happen whole and complete already
I said experience because you know there's no other good word here to put but I get colorful reports every two
days then even I don't know what to do really so most of the time they are
asked to stop the practice that is the last thing we do because the impurities are so much even if there is knowledge
the lower stuff is still not pure enough and doing the practices in this state
will cause damage but outwardly we don't make a big deal
of it because I know one more thing that if the persist there is some problem but
if they come and go these strange experiences if they appear and then disappear then it's normal because the
knowledge itself causes some kind of purification it is expected that there will be little
bit of activity of strangeness there will be a little bit of extraordinary
experiences and when you get the awareness in dreams and the projected
States and all yes they are obviously strange experiences but they should
become normal after a while nothing strange about it you see the strange is
that you don't know anything except the waking State this is really strange how
is that possible what kind of crime you committed that this knowledge was taken
from you otherwise the extraordinaries disguised as the ordinary the extraordinary is happening in the
ordinary there is an existence there is an experiencer and there is very very
strange colorful illusory experience this thing is mind-blowing this thing is
extraordinary that is disguised as your ordinary life and when you go searching for the
colorful experiences to find out something at all which is so called
spiritual and those who find we know there are impurities they are deliberate
in thinking that I am progressing and the guru is not really bothered by this whether they're progressing or not his
concern is impurities sometimes you don't even care too much about it because because sometimes it is known
that this fellow will take at least four lifetimes to clear it
so just like I said the spiritual progress or the time is measured in
lifetimes in the spiritual Fields just like in astronomy it is light years so
what is the meaning of light and ears nobody will be able to even imagine that this is the unit of distance but they
know what it is and same way we measure the progress in lifetimes
so we don't even worry that you say it needs to be done today one week one
month so the guru says let it happen in whatever time it happens you see let's take whatever time it takes because the
nature knows what to do we don't know really the nature is doing the purification also
because you're saying so what I understand is that the chakras knowledge
is given to students who are presumed to have little to no knowledge and spirituality
it totally depends on what path they are we should discriminate the students based on their paths so if they are on
that path where it requires that knowledge they will be given if you are not on that path then this as good as
non-existent it does not exist it's not even needed so that is why there is
nothing about chakras and all in on The Path of Knowledge so totally depends on the path what is told depends on what
needs to be what is helpful in their progress what is needed
if you get the whole knowledge do do you really need any information about these imaginary things because we know their
models only which means imaginary so the whole purpose is to go to the knowledge to get the knowledge and if you get it
initially through the direct path then every other path is redundant it's not
necessary now not need purpose is already solved you already reached the
destination knowing yourself is the Final Destination then you don't need
anything after that pushkar is asking when we talk about being in Awareness I've noticed how not
too much description is provided on the street is it because one has to find it on their own it would be nice to have
some physiological experiential description to understand if I am in the
right state so can you tell me what is being in Awareness what is the meaning of awareness I'm asking because
everybody has different meanings of the same word so I'm asking pushkar okay
he's saying we are already awareness it isn't changing okay so the definition is
different that is why you will you will never find it because in these talks at
least in this system awareness means the knowledge of the self and the unchanging aspect of the existence is called the
experiencer or the witness not awareness so that is why you did not find anything
about it now why did that happen because you see the knowledge must be taken
systematically step by step we cannot jump in the end that means nothing will
be learned so this is the end of The Path of Knowledge staying in Awareness so you are saying we are already
awareness then is there a question of being in Awareness how to be in awareness
if you already know that I am awareness and changing awareness what do you need to do to be the awareness if the
ornament knows that it is gold what do what does it need to do to be the gold
if you are awareness and you are unchanging will there be any physiological description of it because
physiological means the body Crescent is given the definition yes that is the right definition but it's okay you know
people come from other um systems or traditions and they have different meaning so that is why you see
I made it my Habit to ask the definition and meaning before answering everybody has their own words
it is Everlasting recognition of the knowledge that I am the experiencer what is what is the Everlasting recognition
is it a state if it practice or are you saying awareness is the Everlasting recognition
what is the meaning of it I T because you already said that we are awareness that means our Essence is awareness and
changing Essence so what is this new thing now recognition of knowledge knowledge and recognition of knowledge
how are they different I am the experiencer this is knowledge
now what do you mean by recognition of knowledge I can understand up to this that I am the experiencer that is the
self-knowledge or self-realization what is the recognition abiding means
being in the knowledge not forgetting the knowledge that's all it means if
there any other description of it related to the body physiology psychology no we don't need any
I am the experiencer this remembering do we need any more description of it abiding okay the abiding is simply you
see not forgetting the whole life is spent in assuming that I am the body I
am the mind I am some other process some other experience and abiding is simply
not thinking like this anymore because now I have the knowledge what I am
so why is there no material on this the whole program is about this you see the
whole Path of Knowledge program talks about this only there is a whole step in the program which teaches you to remain
in Awareness to abide although you know those who touch the heart when they
don't need any program they don't need any practice so we don't really take it
seriously why is there Step so that I can see who
fails in Abiding and the one who failed is still ignorant
it is a trap so Corrections are made look you are not
in Awareness because you have this kind of doubt you have not realized this your language is impure and so on you see so
once that is done the awareness should come automatically you see it should be easier than breathing who am I how much
practice it took to recall this thing if you have the knowledge you see it should not take more than a second to remember
do I need to make 50 videos on this please remember
you see when the program started the version one it had no practice at all no
mention of these things then I started getting all these questions you see how to stay in this
kind of samadhi that kind of somebody you know then I had to research what is this why do people want to do do this
what is wrong with people I said you are Brahman you want to practice
amazing isn't it it indicates only one thing that no
knowledge happened there no knowledge happened let's go back to our male and female
metaphor for five minutes somehow you got this confusion that I am a female or I am a woman now somebody told you look
not wrong you're mistaken hallucination illusion Maya you are not a woman look
you are a man okay okay what practice do I need to remain man
something is wrong isn't it I always forget that I'm a man I always
think that I am a woman something is wrong really there is something some issue here
so the solution is not practice not more practice the solution is look you don't
know who you are not a woman no my mind is like this it can mean many things you
say either there is some mental issues there or otherwise a mentally healthy
person why will he keep thinking I am a woman I'm not Brahman why will they keep thinking like this
so it is an Open Secret that I don't practice anything sometimes I lie to people that I practice a lot just to
encourage them but really there is no practice on The Path of Knowledge nothing
I give practice only to keep these people engaged for a while till you know the sun rises in their heads the
darkness goes away take times nobody in in the ancient time
gave any practice not ADI shankaracharya not of Duty nobody gave us practices why is that and
how come there are so many practices nowadays he is very simple nobody has the
knowledge actually the actual knowledge is lacking so they try to get it through practice because you see that Yogi is
doing practice that meditator is doing practice that Kundalini fellow is doing practice in some kind of Himalayan
Mountain cave I also need to do something to become what I am and that
is simply indication of lack of Guru there is no guru you don't have any Guru you heard it from somewhere awareness
and these words and that words abiding in all that's all you heard the knowledge never happened and it never
happened because you don't have a guru so I'm asking pushkar who is your Guru
who gave you the systematic knowledge and initiation on The Path of Knowledge ganyog Mr pushkar because there is your
solution actually I can give you any practice you see random practice that's not the real solution is saying it's
some kind of remembrance that's most accurate as per my limited experience yes yes you're right remembrance is the
right word some even you know awareness is not that good but we took it borrowed it but the
remembrance is more accurate all you need to do is remember you are a man forget being a woman or if you are a
woman originally forget being a man so remember and nothing else needs to happen you see
my all addictions are same my my financial condition is same my wife is
same and my husband is same what is wrong with that even with perfection already in Brahman
no no I thought there will be some good effect of this spiritual thing you see yes the good effect is you lost your
ignorance there is no other good effect on The Path of Knowledge no but my mental disorders say my
physical body is same and that means you see and even the what is Path of Knowledge that is that much
is also not understood by that Seeker so the proper direction is shown you see
okay go and fix all these issues then you can come on Path of Knowledge this is the prescription here
to go on a systematic path yes yes that's what I was trying to say but you
see I can give you practice assuming totally that you know everything each and every word precisely and it is true
according to your own experience and but then you will waste three or four more years before you find out then nothing
is working because the root cause is not adopting the paths make it your own and then we
can talk about all this practice and I'll say if if it is really needed it will be given your own Guru will give it
to you vikas is saying can you please talk about ashta siddhi is
that metaphorical do people really can shrink down to Atomic levels yes
everything is possible in illusion then what is it that shrinks what is it that grows illusion only not people remember
there are no people whether you see are these people really small or are they
really big can somebody tell me is your size size of the body is it really small
or is it really big or is it perfectly okay can somebody tell me
people and Path of Knowledge they have all these answers and the answer is always such that you see the question
becomes meaningless what is your real size because as the answer yes can't be
said without comparisons in absolutes meaningless very nice very good see and
riddhi is saying everything is relative yes Graham has given his size
very good you see your size and the body Etc important for ladies not for
Spiritual Seeker if you compare yourself to an atom you are huge trillion times bigger and if
you compare yourself to a Galaxy less than zero don't even exist so what is
the meaning of the siddhis nothing really it is all an illusion
so he's asking whether they are true no no are they true no no not true nothing
is true here in the illusion and everything is possible here so it is not meaningful to say whether it really
happens or not it is more meaningful to say that do you want it to happen or not
tell me you want that to happen again I have already made you biggest
and the smallest in one sentence already done as soon as you said this is relative it is already done you have the
siddhi no do you really want to play in the illusion tell me
because yes everything can be done everything is possible and that is called the path of occult where these
people are playing you see when we say on The Path of Knowledge that there are infinite possibilities and then we don't
even bother to explore those possibilities it's completely meaningless we don't get anything by
doing that and and any intelligent person will find that yes I am the biggest and I am the smallest I am in
between why because every form is taken by the Brahman only they are all my form
so give up your ignorance you don't need siddhis interesting thing is when we give up our
ignorance we progress and then they said these happen they happen automatically
as a result of your progress are they real then no still illusion your
progress is also illusion the Brahman never progresses it does not
need to progress the illusion Pro the illusory figure progresses the illusory creature and whatever it gets as a
result of progress as a result of destruction of its own limitations it
thinks I am gaining something so anything is the creature is not really progressing the creature is on
the way to dissolution so you see everything is joke here everything is a joke if you understand it completely
this fellow is so happy that I am getting all the powers and all you see now the boundaries are breaking what it
is happening what is happening is it is disappearing the boundaries are broken now the perceived size of the body can
become anything and it is a reason to celebrate no the next step is nothing at
all the thing is going to become nothing infinite possible possibility again isn't it
so things are meaningful only if they are limited and small it is all very amusing you see
yes Shashank is saying I don't say anything Einstein says solid yes whatever Einstein said you see we are
saying this since thousands of years this the relativity is the law of Mind actually or you can say law of memory
that is found since ancient Egypt at least we are probably older than that so it's
already rediscovery to become better existence at least this
is what the illusion is you see when the seeker comes here and they say oh I want this siddhi that siddhi then we have no
other option to say that yes progress you will get everything this is a big lie
just like I said you know the guru lies all the time hardly any sentence is true so why is that said because he
understands nothing else except this progress but simply telling this fellow that you
look the progress is dissolution into nothingness and these siddhis are totally useless completely garbage and
that will stop his seeking actually that will stop his progress also so we never say like this we encourage the Seekers
to progress and we let them realize slowly what happened this is also Grace
this is also compassion of the guru to keep the Seeker under delusion is also
compassion otherwise we lose the Seeker forever or he will go somewhere else you see to
find to fulfill his desire so you won't get cities on The Path of Knowledge no no no you will get them you cannot
escape this thing as far as I know every creature will get them why because it is
simply breaking of barriers like if you run your car without maintenance for a long time what happens
the parts they start breaking and ultimately we keep running it obviously it won't run but if you leave it there
it will become dirt it will be rusted everything will rot down will be
dissolved in the dirt that is progress of the car same way this creature is progressing
is there okay okay I want the dissolution then you see is there a resolution according to me it's not
there it is recycled back if somebody comes and digs the ground and you know extracts the metals and so
on it makes a new car a makes a you can say jar or toilet out of it anything
useful for the Existence you inclusion is also illusion
the thing is all zero because nothing appeared these pool of memories they are
scattered and then they are they are they reappear as something else you see
it's so highly disappointing highly you can say discouraging the truth is so
bitter that is never given directly so yes sometimes you see the progress
and the progress is simply realization after realization that I was wrong here
I was wrong there I was wrong now also and whatever I think will be wrong in the future also this is all there is to
progress this is the story of your progress so that is why you know the devotee who
completely believes this Guru progresses very fast because he saved this kind of trouble of
you can say phase forms falling on their face again and again they are saved for by this blind belief in the guru
although it is discouraged you know you need to find out yourself how wrong I was you need to find it out yourself
what is right now right here is complete perfect excellent beautiful
now I call this progress actually the carelessness the meaninglessness the
aimlessness complete Freedom that you get by saying this is progress
there is no other progress and probably that is what is called the is nesting Buddhism although I don't
know the real meaning of it but the word is so beautiful this is it do we need to
do anything more than that is there any practice Beyond this do we need to practice being the is which means the
being the whole the existence it is simply being that which is right now see
how simple it is but in order the Mind likes complications actually I was told all these things
long ago probably I was told this thing many lifetimes ago but no it was
completely rejected this is my own story actually for for the ego or for the creature this
kind of statement or this kind of knowledge is completely useless it finds no advantage in this so what
did what does it do it slips back in the world world means the illusion and what
do we do about it nothing at all if somebody is trying to do something
about the creature again you see again there is ignorance even though momentary
if you cannot be situated in the truth is completely false so what is the
solution that we have found we turn the ego in service of knowledge in that way
it gets to remain in the world it gets meaning also of its life and it does
something useful which is marginally useful actually it gets this illusion that I am doing something good
and the culmination of this kind of philosophy is the guru field they know it is a big joke but they can
keep doing it because there is no other solution as far as I know everything
else will fail so the final destination for a Seeker is not dissolution not
becoming God God is not becoming the Buddha or whatever we call it is final
destination for any Seeker is to come back in the play back to the marketplace and if you do it through the service
then you get some kind of satisfaction otherwise it is completely meaningless
so this this happens naturally whether you like it or not you will spend 30 000
years in your own world meditating because you are the Brahman yes after 30
000 years you realize I wasted my time so
I've I've never found anything better than this the bodhisattva tendency is
your final destination you get to enjoy the Maya also the ego
will not complain the day we will be very happy you know oh he is engaging in my play he is playing the game of
liberating people from illusion and that is very very fascinating for the ma Devi
you see the Maya otherwise she has no opposition otherwise is unchallenged so she gets
something to keep her happy you know keep her engaged we get something everybody's happy nothing is actually
achieved Shashank is saying this is this is perfectly aligned as per experience and
intellect but then also sometimes with heart fearful thought arise what if I have become a psychopath of some kind
whole population is 180 degree from me
that is not really a bad thing remember from your point of view the this the
whole population is Psychopaths and we don't want to use this kind of word very strong word we say ignorant
you can just like you said relative isn't it it is who is saying who is insane is relative nobody is saying and
nobody is insane so a Seeker is insane from the point of view of ignorant person and the ignorant person is
hopelessly insane completely insane from the point of view of a Seeker so you
should enjoy all these fearful thoughts normally the statistics yes it can drift
to anything it hasn't it you can see it everywhere actually
I know somebody saw the picture of Indian trains in um before independence
something like this and there were less people inside the train and more people on the roof of the train all the time is
over but I'll finish this story the train was packed with people on the roof of the train now that is insane from
that person's point of view you wait for the Indians poor people at the time
colonized country it was perfectly normal that is how they could get from one place to another in
those days so who is crazy probably everybody
people think the Village People Are Crazy so ultimately nothing is established in illusion
like you say nothing can be established in the illusion now you understand why all the great
Masters that left the illusion alone why I say that when you know the Essential
Knowledge you should leave the program in first 10 minutes I say this of the program and during the program also I
keep saying everything is over now you can leave the program this is the reason so looks like time is over today I
thought there won't be any questions but ultimately you know everything turns out to be opposite hopefully everybody
enjoyed hopefully everybody got some insight and thank you everyone for
attending today's satsang I'll see you next time
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