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i am the existence incomplete
the experience of this body is an
illusion then why is there a talk or
even a single thought of making any
decision for the body's image survival
it doesn't exist how can one protect and
secure nothingness so i think there is
an assumption that
the talk is real our thoughts are real
and the world and the body is illusion
but the thinker and the thoughts are
real the thinker who is thinking about
the body and making decisions is real
that is
ignorance that is not true the world is
illusion the body is illusion the
thoughts are illusion the thinker is
illusion so it is perfectly okay nothing
exists
so this question is arising out of this
uh
misunderstanding that how come if the
body is unreal how come there are real
thoughts about the body
no the real thoughts are also unreal for
example on the cinema screen the
character which you see is totally
unreal and whatever the character is
saying and thinking about it himself on
the
the image of itself is also unreal so it
does not exist but the drama is going on
the drama is such that
the creature thinks i am responsible for
the body i need to do something for it
and it does it
this is the game of survival but the
thing is the movie is already made the
script is already done it is simply
following the script pre-recorded
images are shown on the screen that is
what is happening that which is in the
memory is being played back the decision
happens first
as per the conditioning programming and
then there is this thought that i did it
so the page has this misunderstanding
that this thought is real that this i is
real who's who is doing something it is
not
number two entertaining even a single
thought that one can do anything when
existence is doing its own play seems
self-contradictory does it mean the
knowledge hasn't done completely and
there is still some ignorance left yes
you have a lot of ignorance left
try to see the illusion of the person
you are thinking that
the person is
true
it is real and how come when the
existence is doing something why is this
person claiming it that i am doing it
this is your ignorance
number three shouldn't total and
complete dissolution of this illusion
personality the only option no such
thing as
99.9 percent dissolution either illusion
exists or the wheel is totally lifted
let everything happen as per existence
plan so again lot of ignorance why do
you think everything is not happening as
per existence plan
why do you think that there is a person
who can do something which is not being
done by the existence and the existence
is also not doing anything it is simply
appearing there is no doer existence is
also not the doer so this should be seen
by direct experience and
it is the option of dissolution is not
there because there is nobody to
dissolve there is nothing to dissolve
it is like
the fire burning on the screen no matter
how much water you throw on the screen
the fire keeps burning because there is
no fire you cannot put it off so again
the assumption of the page here is that
the personality
it is possible to dissolve it it is
already not there what are you going to
dissolve
when you call it illusion then what is
the point of dissolving the illusion no
point it is already not there
so there is a contradiction in the
question itself somehow he is thinking
that probably the person is real and it
needs to be dissolved there is no person
there are thoughts of person and if you
dissolve those thoughts
nothing is achieved nothing at all is
achieved
and if the if one personality is gone
nothing at all happens in the existence
because it is like a particle of dust
there are mountains himalayas of
personalities what about them it is not
even noticed so it is meaningless from
the point of view of the hole which i am
this kind of adventure is completely
meaningless
it is not even an adventure it is very
boring actually the entertaining thing
is the play not dissolution and it is
already dissolved it simply appears to
be there
secondly it is going to evolve and
dissolve automatically nothing remains
it is all impermanence so
why why should we hurry when it is
already happening as per the plan
he's saying either illusion exists or
the wheel is totally lifted there is no
wheel that is again ignorance again
assumption that this something is
separating the illusion from the
existence no they are one i am the
illusion also the wheel is our inability
to see this that should be lifted
nothing else needs to be done
everything is happening perfectly as it
should happen nothing needs to be done
this is your path of knowledge non-doer
non-doing
all these thoughts are totally
unnecessary coming out of ignorance
so think more about it
be patient can i call yes you can
say uh actually maybe there's there was
a i think some confusion the typing the
way i could not express it clearly what
i meant was
uh what you are saying that is the
complete knowledge so there
uh
when i hear a lot of
talks about
wanting to save the body wanting to save
then these are the questions offshoot
questions because we should not be asked
that's what the point was we should not
be asking these questions because
existence is doing its own play
so then why do we discuss such matters
in the first place like you know there's
a body one should be practical about
survival and all that blah blah blah
because like there is no one like why
even even
uh
think about all these things and the ps
part was for all those people who are
thinking then i'm like you know why are
we even like having a conversation about
these matters
that was my point of the question like
why do we even entertain such thoughts
is it ignorance on our part that we are
entertaining such thoughts or
there should be nothing like you know i
mean because it's all uh
i mean we are not here there's nothing
happening it's all appearances then why
like you know
having even a conversation or a thought
about trying to save an illusion because
it's it's nothing there this
existence is everything that's doing its
own play
so again you are thinking that
the these thoughts about protecting the
body and
survival are real are you thinking like
this
no
no no no i'm saying the conversation
that happened uh not me i'm not thinking
like this
it is not my thought my thought is
why are people uh
having these thoughts
when
uh
you know when we are on a path of
knowledge and we said the knowledge has
been completely dawned
we can see it
so shouldn't there be like okay no
conversation on this matter your
illusion like you know
don't don't even think about it
if there if there is a thought who is
doing it
it's all existence like
and if somebody stops this thought
if somebody stops this thought who did
it
the existence
absolutely yeah so what is the point
who should stop it
ah okay
okay got it
thank you thank you
vinai here can i ask a question
yes yes go ahead
uh
in this
drama
the script is already written
and
it seems there is a direction
in which this drama is being played
so which part of the script is to be
played
is that
a
part of a possibility and there is
absolutely
no control
who decides rather
from say the answer is always the
existence the size or
it is
it's sort of a
no control drama which is getting played
my question actually stemmed from
the concept of creation
there is no creation or destruction
but i am still not able to comprehend
which part of the drama is played
and if there is any logic or it is just
a possibility
please uh help me guide you please guide
me here
why do you think there are parts of the
drama
uh i'm saying we see that it's moving in
some direction at least that that
direction is there
or rather a perception of direct
direction is there or
there is a perception that this drama is
getting played
and
the events are happening in some
order
yes so let them happen
are you worried that i am not playing my
part
i need to
check what is written and then i'll do
it
are you thinking like this
uh no guruji i am
what what my uh
confusion is
if creation is a possibility
can can
can we really create
at a dualistic level
there are ways
where we attempt to create something
so
um he said
where does that come where does that
creation come from
or can we even think creation as a
possibility and attempt to create
something in life
in this illusion rather
we wins means what
sorry um
i should use i word i will
and i means what
i means
it does
existence
so it is already doing it
isn't it
okay
you are asking is there a possibility of
creation of something
yes there is only possibility there is
no
creation it seems that it is happening
in a predetermined way
but that is also a concept
all there is only possibility
now you are thinking that
it is already written
so existence must be doing it step by
step
and your question is not clear actually
what what do you really
what is your doubt here
it is already happening as you said
uh
yes
my my doubt is that at the level of you
know potential space
there are
the memory patterns are getting uh
influenced or they are
making a copy of themselves
so from that perspective
is is it really an ever expanding uh
universe where even the you know
greater memories are creating copy of
themselves which can
uh you know which can be perceived as
yes it is
there is something new getting a new
part of the script getting
created
or is it just a static
script which is already written and
no new possibilities are there
no the thing is
it is only possibilities and there is
infinite amount of it because you don't
see any
reason for it to be limited
infinite possibilities
so is one script done and then other
script starts
then it creates more scripts for others
other patterns and so on no nothing like
this this is our imagination whatever
possibility is it simply manifests and
it manifests in a way
as if it is already all is
pre-programmed all is pre-written it is
always like this
for example when you dream the whole
city your house yourself your friends
your family and the objects and the
animals the monsters they are ready made
they are pre-created so
was something written before that is now
being manifested
no it all manifests everything as per
the possibility
and then there is a illusion that it was
already in the memory the whole history
is also created in the dream and this
must have happened somebody must have
built the house and i must be a small
child in the beginning
all these things
the the dream comes preloaded with all
these stories but actually there was
only possibility so something similar is
happening here also in the waking state
that it looks like that my life is
already scripted and somebody else
else's life in the coming future will be
scripted by the existence
but remember this is
an illusion nothing like this is
happening
because there is no future because the
existence is timeless
it cannot create in time remember this
thing
it is not that you know the people who
are existing their lives are written now
and because it is expanding there will
be
more people in the future and their
lives will be written and they will
execute their lives no no no nothing
like this
there is no future there is no past
there is only now
and the rest of the story is made up by
your mind it cannot think beyond this
past present and scripts and the doer
and the doing the intellect cannot think
beyond this
what is happening is unknowable and we
sometimes you say nothing is happening
and because nothing is happening it is
unknowable it is not that we cannot know
it because there is nothing to know
really so all we have is assumptions and
imaginations and stories
just like in the dream so
this
is
total illusion none of the none of its
part is true even the script is not true
even the existence doing it is not true
sometimes we say it but
it is all metaphorical like i said who
is doing it for the page and he said
existence but that is roughly saying you
see we are denying the individual that
is why
we use this kind of language
ultimately there are possibilities
that
manifest in illusory form the rest of
the story is created with the whole
history and the future past and future
are created
in the now this must be seen directly
it should be seen as a play a complete
play it is not that the script is not a
play you know existence is scripting the
play
and then you know the play happens on
the script it is not like this
because if it is like this then the
scripting part will become real my
existence has done something here
isn't it
something real has been done the script
is real then and then the play is
happening on the script no no not like
this
the script is assumed in the play
and it looks like it feels like it is a
illusion delusion that it must be
pre-written
the whole laws of the mind they are all
created in the dream there are no laws
in existence lawless territory
so i think that is the root of your
question the misunderstanding here is
that
existence is doing something which is
real it is not doing anything it is
simply witnessing the doing part is
assumed by us who have a very limited
intellect because the intellect cannot
think anything besides these few words
that are in the memory what are these
few words doing doer scripting
predetermination memory life individual
it tries to make permutations and
combinations of these words at least
something will make sense it thinks
no nothing nothing makes sense here
illusion means
utterly illusion complete illusion not
even one atom of it is real
there is no need to imagine a story
behind the illusion like you said
the memory patterns are getting created
and so on and it is expanding this is a
story nothing like this is happening
there are no memory patterns in the
existence nothing is expanding here
there's nowhere to expand possibilities
are already infinite there is no
you can say scope of making it more
infinite it is meaningless to say
something like this in the infinity if
you add one still infinity
so this things are assumed later on when
the illusion has already happened
we assume these things that there is
there are memory patterns because of
which the illusion is getting created
and there is a script in the memory and
this creature or this world is following
the script
and these are only descriptions of what
is happening and it is bound to be wrong
why because nothing is happening
it is a way to satisfy the intellect the
intellect wants answers like he said no
why why don't we stop talking about all
these things this is not possible the
nature of the intellect
is continuous motion it is continuously
activity so it is doing its job now let
it do the intellect says i'll continue
the activity and
at one point the intellect says no i am
the existence i should stop then it
continues the activity and this stopping
is also an activity so nothing
meaningful happens here you see there is
no possibility that you can intervene
you can somehow intervene and if you
think i intervened and i changed
something
that is also
meaningless that is also a meaningless
thought
so what is the bottom line
i am the existence blissfully
experiencing a meaningless dream which
is not there from the point of view of
the individual
very boring
so
when you want to be the individual which
is your job really isn't it you have
taken the individual form limitation to
enjoy this limitation to enjoy being the
limited individual now start acting do
play your part assume a script and play
the script nothing more to do enjoy the
illusion
what happens is we try to break out of
the illusion thinking that it will end
but no this thing will never break out
of the illusion the illusion will never
end it is me only there is no such thing
as future in which the illusion will end
no there is no future there is no such
thing as past where the creature got
bound in the illusion no there is no
bondage no beginning no end it is
timeless and the only freedom you have
is to know that i am this existence i am
brahman i am the whole and then accept
accept whatever there is it is you i am
also you you are also that
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