Dependence

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAU2dZNkkc0

experience is dependent on the

experiencer state your opinion

this i would like to again discuss

with the fellow seekers is the

experience dependent on the experience

sir mukta said no anybody else agrees

anybody else wants to agree

or disagree and also tell me why because

you know without simply saying no is not

an answer that is called a guess

you should explain your no or yes

otherwise i cut the marks you know

that the pacing experience is in the

experience and only movie in the screen

but isn't the movie dependent on the

screen that is what the question is

asking in the metaphor movie screen

where will be the movie if there is no

screen

is it a dependency marry it is like

asking if two sides or a coin are

dependent together very good answer

the metaphor changes in your

understanding changes

between says both are one not two very

good bharathi is saying both are always

together the experience is eternal

should we answer it from the point of

view of the non-duality or should we

look for an answer in the duality

first you should think like this and at

which level the answer will be there

nana is also saying that one

shreya is saying the relationship

oneness and are not mutually dependent

so let me see it's going to be

controversial i think

you guys should do this thing with you

see trouble other teachers with these

questions you know so many teachers

isn't it

take these questions to the teachers see

what they answer

probably you know i'm wrong who knows

you simply assume that i am the last

authority no no those who want they can

take these controversial questions and

put them before the

best teachers homework send them email

put it in the youtube comments i don't

think they read it or if you join the

satsang sometimes sometimes and ask

these

some people are paying thousands of

rupees to join the satsang why don't you

trouble them little bit value of for

money people pay this much money and

they ask very very shallow questions

like who was i in the past life

how many angels can dance on the pin

these questions are valuable

ashman is saying yes

it and experience when just like how the

fire and then there is light and warm

not separate gram experience is a word

is defined as that which arises for the

experience

very

unique answer by gram

but it's not clear whether it is

dependent or not if it arises for the

experiencer what is the relation of

dependency or something nana is saying

from the dual point of view observer or

experience is required yes i was

expecting this kind of split of duality

non-duality and amazing yes

they're dependent

so you see i think the trick here is

that you need to answer from both points

of view the dual and non-dual to

achieve the complete

understanding and at the at the level of

duality yes it is going to look like as

if the experience is dependent on the

experiencer

and some people will go ahead and say

without the experience there is no

experience sir this is also the view not

even thinking about the non-duality that

i am the existence don't think it don't

even think about it assume that we you

don't know anything about the unity or

the non-duality and you know only up to

the duality the experience and the

experience and that is self-realization

so

at that level you will find them as

mutually dependent

it is an illusion the illusion is

produced by the mind is thinking process

like the movie and the screen you see no

screen then no movie and without the

movie if it is complete darkness you

know let us extend the meta for a little

bit if there is complete darkness in the

cinema hall you won't come to know where

is the screen it's all complete darkness

so those who are at the level of duality

they will never realize the

real relation and as many people have

said at the level of non-duality they

are one so no relation relation is of

oneness

like the pot and the clay the wave and

the water the ornament and the gold

they're one although one is one part is

changing one aspect is changing when

dimension is changing other dimension is

stationary even even without even with

this condition it is one but at the

level of duality you can say the wave is

dependent on the border you know where

will be the where will the wave arise

there is no water but you see water is

never found without a form even if it is

irregular form it will be a form so

ultimately we conclude that they are one

but you can simply say that there will

be an illusion of duality where one will

feel as if it is dependent on the other

this is done by the intellect there is

no need to believe it and simply accept

that it will look like this the illusion

will be like this

yes graham is saying it is the

artificial division for discussion yes

because as soon as you unite there is no

need to study also what will you study

there it's completely unknowable

at the level of non-violent there is

nothing to study that's completely

unknowable we need to divide

then we can study

anu is asking why is gandmar not so

popular i heard it from purity sir only

i have searched many doors but never

heard of this man

you know is

everywhere really

just that awareness is very low in among

people it is mentioned in very much

detail in bhagavad-gita which is very

popular grammar is what is gamma it is

you know sanskrit for path of knowledge

path of knowledge so

it is very much given in many of the

ancient texts scriptures the best is

bhagavad-gita narrated by sri krishna

and that is very popular and he has very

accurately defined the gang yoga or the

path of knowledge he does not call it

the gan mark there he calls it gan yog

which is the same thing because the

whole gita is about yoga of this and

yoga of that you say 18 times

18 chapters

so

it is very well known but what is the

problem people do not understand it

whatever you call sanatana dharma is

nothing but path of knowledge and

whatever you call as upnations nothing

but part of knowledge and whatever

whatever you call as the rig

is path of knowledge there is no other

path there except tantra maybe rituals

but the ritual part is removed in the

operations only the

knowledge part is kept which is the

proper part actually so everybody knows

it it is right there in front of their

eyes you know what else is there in

india you know

and

so on

both tradition buddhism is part of

knowledge

the

sikhism path of knowledge there is

nothing except power of knowledge and

the other paths are simply offshoots the

other paths are there for those who

cannot grasp it

although when i say this people are you

know infuriated they become angry oh he

is saying my path is simply

supplementary path for father the truth

is bitter isn't it

why it is not popular yes nobody

understands because nobody bothers to

seek a guru cannot be understood without

a guru guru means teacher only isn't it

you can hit your head on the

applications for whole of your life you

will understand nothing

i am guaranteeing because it happened to

me without guru nothing happens on the

path of knowledge

that is why people are singing praises

for the guru because that is most

important person in your life in all

your lives actually all your hundreds of

lives the most important person

even though you don't agree with him

many times even though you don't like

him you hate your guru many times but he

will be the one who will give you that

for which you're born that for which you

are taken the human form