https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qepEgXjYbl0
but the best question experiencer shines
the activity that i am the experiencer
experiencer also shines anything that
appears as it is the conscious presence
what is the internal state of existence
with respect to above how
out of three terms that is experiencing
or thuriya or experience which one we
can call as the eternal state of
existence that is
now purely matter of choice isn't purely
matter of what people think about it we
can call it anything if you want
but i have called it the experiencing as
you know experiencing is the only state
just now we said and therefore we
sometimes say there is only experiencing
we drop the word state also state of
what you will say state of what
existence is never without experiencing
they are the same actually one and the
same so state of existence just to calm
down the intellect a little bit oh there
is something but what is it doing people
ask human question they need to know
what everybody is doing in their
neighborhood existence what is it doing
experiencing that is the only state but
it is experiencing only i mean as a noun
not as a verb
nothing is doing anything it is being
experiencing
that is that industry according to me at
least there can be
points of views here opinions
party is saying actually in one video it
is said awareness and deep sleep is the
eternal state of existence
yes yes there can be
more explanations of the state of the
existence
what is what does it mean that look the
the states like waking and projecting
and whatever they are like bubbles of
dream that happen in the background of
deep sleep and the deep sleep is simply
a state of experiencing only we have
changed its name with respect to the
states of the mind so this view is
very good as soon as you are in the
duality when the student is
has not reached non-duality this can be
a good explanation because there can be
question you see
sometimes the existence appear as me in
this human in the waking state sometimes
it appears in the dream state or
projected state or sleep state
any other state so what is its
fundamental state and this is we are
still in the duality here and this
answer is satisfactory in that case but
when you
asked
as from the perspective of the
experience earning like what it is then
is it being the experiencer is it doing
the experiencing or
is
busy creating stuff whatever so in that
case
we always say that they are all equal
these all words are equal
experience their experience experiencing
existence
they are names of one
and yes the same thing is in deep sleep
and awareness and whatever same some
people are going to explain samadhi has
deep sleep equal to deep deep sleep
there are some kinds of samadhis where
the thoughts stop where all the activity
stops it looks like it is stopped
it goes very deep it becomes minute so
they will they will say it is like
awareness in deep sleep now i have
become pure existence
especially in buddhism this notion is
there they will say that you need to
know the emptiness
do this one exercise do this practice
try to reach that final level where
there is no activity at all and you will
witness the true state
advair we say look don't bother about
these things this is
our current state is samadhi
the mental activity does nothing at all
to the emptiness realize it is not there
you don't need to do any practice then
so depending on the inclination of the
seeker or the student something is told
you see different views in different
traditions
every tradition will assign different
states
also but
finally in that way we say that they're
all illusory states the final state is
that
which is most natural how to come in
that state in this very easy you don't
need to come in that any state it's
always there and i like this idea a lot
very lazy idea isn't it you don't need
to do anything to be in the absolute
state just know
and i agree completely you must have
seen the trend uh on the path of
knowledge or especially in the advanced
tradition that
anything that you try to do or try to be
or try to
get is already there all all that was
shown was you know drop your ignorance
it is already there oh let me do this
guruji no drop your ignorance it is
already there i want to be this
drop your ignorance you are already this
same way when the student goes and tells
the guru i want to be in this ultimate
state
and he says drop your ignorance you're
already there
you must have seen this trend here so i
think we can blindly believe now that
yes my state is absolute already without
counting the
levels of the mind without
counting the illusory state that we need
to get rid of first
to come in thuria or whatever ramadi i
am very happy being what is right now
right here
this gives final rest this gives you the
biggest peace possible it is now eternal
vacation for a seeker enjoy
that is why the definition of the final
state is so important if you defined it
wrongly you will try to achieve it and
i am pretty sure you will never get it
rajid is saying
can we say that all states are of the
memory only and thus experiencing is not
a state
yeah he has given a new twist to the
story
when there is only one state can you
even call it a state because states are
you know that will change from one to
another yes so
yes yes experiencing is existence
there is no possibility of it changing
into another so why call it a state this
whole coral of states is over now
experiencer has no states nothing
changes there
experiencer is the existence nothing
will change there no states you see
so saying that there is a final state of
being the ultimate is simply
metaphorical
it is much better to say you know rise
above the states and you will reach the
final what final being so because of the
limitation of the language we sometimes
say that okay this is the final state
stop trying
what happens to the world in the absence
of the experiencer as you know this is a
very tricky question it assumes that the
experiencer can be absent it is eternal
this is
simply an assumption this will never
happen so nothing will happen to the
world yes the world can disappear like
our universe and all it's momentary but
the experience never disappears there is
another thing experience only changes
so both of them are eternal because they
are the existence
which is bigger experiencer or the
existence
those who are still thinking that i have
my own private experience just like i
have my own tv in the house in my own
car and my own driver who drives the car
i have my own servant experiencer whose
job is to experience everything some
people think like this
and this question is designed to bring
out that ignorance never see the
experiencer as connected to the body or
to the individual
it has no relation at all these things
are objects
so
existence is the experiencer not the
individual
it may appear like this to this ignorant
individual
the ego claims the experiencer also just
like it can claim anything isn't it if
it wishes it can claim
everything is mine like it can claim the
land as mine isn't it so it can as well
say the air is mine and it can say the
rain is mine the cloud and the sky above
my land is also mine like the countries
claim their airspace isn't it that the
space above my land is mine
there is no end of stupidity of the ego
it can claim the experience or the
existence as me and myself it's not like
this at all there is no me
which actions are best for a seeker
you see
that no action is recommended for the
experiencer don't try to do try to be
seeker means a human being isn't it
experiencer is not seeking the human
will need to do some actions
seeker needs to decide you see nobody
else who can say whose actions are right
whose are wrong whose actions are best
who's our worst this is a question in
ethics and aesthetics
morality
that which are abandoned is not mine do
the necessary and throw it out it's not
mine if you assume it is mine then every
action is bad
so a seeker should should not do
anything else except progress on the
path that is the best action
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